G Power M3 Vs Others - Page 4

MikeG_C63_AMG · 07-07-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

I dont need an upgrade the other g-power car in the video needs one he only has psudeo "Prototype" stuff and out dated blower and Intake that was never meant to be the permanent piece only a hold over until the Carbon parts came in. I have the Newer stuff but at the momement the car is being upgraded to a higher rated system. Basically what I'm saying is if he had the parts I just mentioned results would be much different thats all. That C63 is fast as hell tho.

Gotcha.

Jonmartin · 07-07-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

OK genius, then you are retarded if you think a blown M3 will not kick the crap out of an 63.

What the hell are u talking about seriously? Are u lost do you need a map?

KonigsTiger · 07-07-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

What the hell are u talking about seriously? Are u lost do you need a map?

I need a map.

Jonmartin · 07-07-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

I need a map.

Where did I say a blown M3 wont beat a C63?

Where did I say a blown M3 vs Blown C63 the C63 wont have the advantage?

Never. Thanks...

All I said is josh needs his parts updated and then the results will be alot different. Thats all.

Chipped B6 · 07-07-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

What the hell are u talking about seriously? Are u lost do you need a map?

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

I need a map.

On today's show, we meet 2 fellow contestants ready to fight with words of wisdom bashing each other cars over the internet, the twist?: They have the same brand and make car!!

KonigsTiger · 07-07-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

Where did I say a blown M3 wont beat a C63?

Where did I say a blown M3 vs Blown C63 the C63 wont have the advantage?

Never. Thanks...

All I said is josh needs his parts updated and then the results will be alot different. Thats all.

I suppose never, I misread you statement. Shit happens!

The rest? Well I thought I would just screw around with you. My bad no need to get all fuzzy.

Jonmartin · 07-07-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

I suppose never, I misread you statement. Shit happens!

The rest? Well I thought I would just screw around with you. My bad no need to get all fuzzy.

It's cool I'm not fuzzy I just shaved...

bimmerj · 07-08-2009, 05:01 PM

I did like the responses alot more on the MB board. I guess a more mature crowd. In reality, from experience, a stock M3 (DCT or manual) will never take a C63.

Jonmartin · 07-08-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerj

I did like the responses alot more on the MB board. I guess a more mature crowd. In reality, from experience, a stock M3 (DCT or manual) will never take a C63.

And? Who cares? Thats not even the topic of conversation in this thread. Also just because you like the responses more on MBworld doesn't make them more mature but then you can always click back.

bimmerj · 07-08-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

And? Who cares? Thats not even the topic of conversation in this thread. Also just because you like the responses more on MBworld doesn't make them more mature but then you can always click back.

, sad case.

MikeG_C63_AMG · 07-08-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

And? Who cares? Thats not even the topic of conversation in this thread. Also just because you like the responses more on MBworld doesn't make them more mature but then you can always click back.

+1

Its true. Refer to the OP. See UNBIAS!!

KonigsTiger · 07-09-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

It's cool I'm not fuzzy I just shaved...

Haha!!

spike357 · 07-09-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerj

I did like the responses alot more on the MB board. I guess a more mature crowd. In reality, from experience, a stock M3 (DCT or manual) will never take a C63.

Unless the road has a curve in it.

1cleanm3 · 07-09-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerj

I did like the responses alot more on the MB board. I guess a more mature crowd. In reality, from experience, a stock M3 (DCT or manual) will never take a C63.

well atleast you can put a m3 in a sentence with a manual or dct, you guys only get boring ass auto. You really shouldnt be taking though, m3 has a 4.0l engine compared to your 6.2L.....there isnt many engines like the M....

MikeG_C63_AMG · 07-09-2009, 07:27 PM

This is starting to be a joke. Keep it on topic. There is about 10 C63/M3 threads already.

Bimmer Nerd · 07-09-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted335

well atleast you can put a m3 in a sentence with a manual or dct, you guys only get boring ass auto. You really shouldnt be taking though, m3 has a 4.0l engine compared to your 6.2L.....there isnt many engines like the M....

+1, if M3 had a 6.2L V8 your MB would be NOTHING, NADA, SHIT compared to the M3. MB can barely produce 100 HP/liter and BMW achieves that + a little more.

on C63 AMG MB produces around 72 HP per liter = 451 WITH 6.2 LITERS
BMW M3 produces around 103 HP per liter = 414 WITH 4.0 LITERS
so if BMW had 6.2 Liter engine it would produce = mhhh 638.6 HP !!! now i wanna see MB achieve that. (not saying that bmw will come up with that engine but i am just stating what the approximate numbers would be if it had 6.2 engine displacement).

M3 Montreal · 07-09-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by godora

+1, if M3 had a 6.2L V8 your MB would be NOTHING, NADA, SHIT compared to the M3. MB can barely produce 100 HP/liter and BMW achieves that + a little more.

on C63 AMG MB produces around 72 HP per liter = 451 WITH 6.2 LITERS
BMW M3 produces around 103 HP per liter = 414 WITH 4.0 LITERS
so if BMW had 6.2 Liter engine it would produce = mhhh 638.6 HP !!! now i wanna see MB achieve that. (not saying that bmw will come up with that engine but i am just stating what the approximate numbers would be if it had 6.2 engine displacement).

Dont forget the C-63 is a DETUNED engine. Just doing the ECU gets you a HUGE increase. Its detuned so it doesnt compete against the higher models with the same engine. I DO agree that it still doesnt achieve over 100hp/litre but the 451 hp is the DETUNED amount.

If the C-63 was offered in 6mt and coupe I would have definately considered it. It was out of my picture due to the lack of those 2.

Bimmer Nerd · 07-10-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 Montreal

Dont forget the C-63 is a DETUNED engine. Just doing the ECU gets you a HUGE increase. Its detuned so it doesnt compete against the higher models with the same engine. I DO agree that it still doesnt achieve over 100hp/litre but the 451 hp is the DETUNED amount.

If the C-63 was offered in 6mt and coupe I would have definately considered it. It was out of my picture due to the lack of those 2.

yes, i do know that its a detuned engine since Mercedes offers many vehicles with such displacement that are produces many times more hp then what the C63 achieves. but wouldn't you agree that if BMW started using such a high displacment engines it would produce more hp/L than mercedes and have a higher output ?

KonigsTiger · 07-10-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by godora

yes, i do know that its a detuned engine since Mercedes offers many vehicles with such displacement that are produces many times more hp then what the C63 achieves. but wouldn't you agree that if BMW started using such a high displacment engines it would produce more hp/L than mercedes and have a higher output ?

I have no idea how we would know that. Maybe they archived the hp they wanted at AMG but lots more torque. But for sure the 4.0 produces more hp per L than almost any engine.

Jonmartin · 07-10-2009, 03:26 AM

Evosport posted on another board the Engine mods alone add up to $14,000 on that C63. That's more then the S/C lol.. That's not including the other mods like brake upgrades, wheels. Widebody mod, suspension and whatever else it has.

M3 Montreal · 07-10-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by godora

yes, i do know that its a detuned engine since Mercedes offers many vehicles with such displacement that are produces many times more hp then what the C63 achieves. but wouldn't you agree that if BMW started using such a high displacment engines it would produce more hp/L than mercedes and have a higher output ?

Based on what we've seen historically from both manufacturers I would agree.

M3 Montreal · 07-10-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

Evosport posted on another board the Engine mods alone add up to $14,000 on that C63. That's more then the S/C lol.. That's not including the other mods like brake upgrades, wheels. Widebody mod, suspension and whatever else it has.

I thought ECU tune alone would get you to about 545 hp and 575 Tq for about 3k ?

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07-08-2009, 05:01 PM	#74
bimmerj Private First Class Drives: 335i, C63, Cayenne S Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 184 iTrader: (0)	I did like the responses alot more on the MB board. I guess a more mature crowd. In reality, from experience, a stock M3 (DCT or manual) will never take a C63.

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MikeG_C63_AMG First Lieutenant Drives: 2009 Eurocharged C63 AMG Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hoboken,NJ Posts: 378 iTrader: (0)	This is starting to be a joke. Keep it on topic. There is about 10 C63/M3 threads already.

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Jonmartin Banned Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angles (818) Posts: 2,105 iTrader: (1)	Evosport posted on another board the Engine mods alone add up to $14,000 on that C63. That's more then the S/C lol.. That's not including the other mods like brake upgrades, wheels. Widebody mod, suspension and whatever else it has.