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      06-18-2010, 04:45 PM   #331
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What pressures are people running with the 19" Sessanta on a 255/275 set up pls?

I'm running 33F and 35R on PS2 and Vredestein recommend far higher for their tyres.
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      06-18-2010, 06:05 PM   #332
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I have them installed on my OEM 20" wheels on my X5. I have 10k miles on them thus far and they are still as quiet as the day I bought them. Tread life appears to be halfway and the wet traction and dry traction have been nothing short of satisfying. For the price I paid, and for the attractive tread pattern, using them again in the future is a no-brainer.
With the X5, you may want to dismount the tires and swap them side to side. The negative camber in back kills the inside edge of the tire. Not sure how it would work with the Vred's since they're so directional.
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With the X5, you may want to dismount the tires and swap them side to side. The negative camber in back kills the inside edge of the tire. Not sure how it would work with the Vred's since they're so directional.
My '10 X5's camber is not nearly as bad as it was on my 06'. The new models run less camber, but I know what you mean. I wanted to cross rotate the Vred's but they are directional and asymmetrical so the inside must stay on the inside, same with the outside so no luck there.
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      06-21-2010, 03:41 AM   #334
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I am curious about the pressures too.

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What pressures are people running with the 19" Sessanta on a 255/275 set up pls?

I'm running 33F and 35R on PS2 and Vredestein recommend far higher for their tyres.
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      06-21-2010, 06:54 AM   #335
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You can get an idea of what tyre pressure to run from the feel of the car on turn-in and also by looking at the shoulders of the tyres especially the fronts...you will see a definite line between the worn part of the tyre and the unworn part, if that line is too far down the shoulder of the tyre then the pressure is too low. Some tyres even have markers on the shoulder to give an indication of where the "wear line" should not cross.
BMW decide on the tyre pressures that they recommend to use not Michelin...and the numbers they suggest are a compromised balance between comfort, noise and grip. You can safely run a few psi extra especially in the fronts where even an increase to say 35-36 psi cold will change the way the car feels on turn in.
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      06-21-2010, 08:23 AM   #336
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I wanted to cross rotate the Vred's but they are directional and asymmetrical so the inside must stay on the inside, same with the outside so no luck there.
They are asymmetrical, but not directional. I'd say the majority of other high performance tires are as well with a stipulated outside/inside.
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They are asymmetrical, but not directional. I'd say the majority of other high performance tires are as well with a stipulated outside/inside.
You're absolutely correct, they are just asymmetrical, but still prevents cross rotation.
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i don't like the look of the tred. how the heck heavy rain water gonna get channel to the rear with just one tunnel like that?
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      06-22-2010, 09:05 AM   #339
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i don't like the look of the tred. how the heck heavy rain water gonna get channel to the rear with just one tunnel like that?
But people that have them say they work very well in the rain. Possibly it's magic.
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i don't like the look of the tred. how the heck heavy rain water gonna get channel to the rear with just one tunnel like that?
The lateral sipes are what move water.....imagine a flat slick that goes over water, the water has no place to go so you get hydroplaning. With road tires they are sipes to move the water out from underneath the tire so you reduce hydroplaning. I have the Vreds, they are very good in the rain.
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The lateral sipes are what move water.....imagine a flat slick that goes over water, the water has no place to go so you get hydroplaning. With road tires they are sipes to move the water out from underneath the tire so you reduce hydroplaning. I have the Vreds, they are very good in the rain.
I drove from LA to Vegas in heavy rain in November, and although I was worried the whole way, the tires never showed any hints of hydroplaning.
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But people that have them say they work very well in the rain. Possibly it's magic.
Yup... it's magic!
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Looking for places in the east coast nj/ny that will get me vreds. So far been quoted 1108! i saw someone had the tires mounted balanced for 870 out the door.
sorry i didnt read the whole thread as its 17pages.
any advise would be appreciated or recommendations.
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Looking for places in the east coast nj/ny that will get me vreds. So far been quoted 1108! i saw someone had the tires mounted balanced for 870 out the door.
sorry i didnt read the whole thread as its 17pages.
any advise would be appreciated or recommendations.
Most of the RAC first group buy east coast guys bought from Group A I believe: http://www.groupawheels.com/. Good luck.
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thank you very much, didnt know they were in east coast.
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You can get an idea of what tyre pressure to run from the feel of the car on turn-in and also by looking at the shoulders of the tyres especially the fronts...you will see a definite line between the worn part of the tyre and the unworn part, if that line is too far down the shoulder of the tyre then the pressure is too low. Some tyres even have markers on the shoulder to give an indication of where the "wear line" should not cross.
BMW decide on the tyre pressures that they recommend to use not Michelin...and the numbers they suggest are a compromised balance between comfort, noise and grip. You can safely run a few psi extra especially in the fronts where even an increase to say 35-36 psi cold will change the way the car feels on turn in.
I'm well aware of how tyres wear when incorrectly inflated. The point is waiting till this happens is daft and i was asking specifically for pressure people are using for the 255 / 275 Vredestein combo.

Running 35-36psi on PS2 at the front must feel like using solid steel for tyres

So come on all you Sessanta shod owners. What pressures are you running and what does the car feel like? Anyone that has played around with pressures (on the same tyre) would hopefully have a fair amount to input.
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Most of the RAC first group buy east coast guys bought from Group A I believe: http://www.groupawheels.com/. Good luck.
Thanks a lot for that link I was wondering the exact same thing and couldn't easily find it in the 17 page maze thread.

Anyone with 255/30/20 fronts (specifically with Eibach springs)? I know most tires will rub at full lock with that size, which is why most go 245/30/20, but not sure if anyone can speak from experience. Looking for a set of Vredestein's after I go through my current PS2's.
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Thanks a lot for that link I was wondering the exact same thing and couldn't easily find it in the 17 page maze thread.

Anyone with 255/30/20 fronts (specifically with Eibach springs)? I know most tires will rub at full lock with that size, which is why most go 245/30/20, but not sure if anyone can speak from experience. Looking for a set of Vredestein's after I go through my current PS2's.
I'm pretty familiar with both the RAC group buy threads.
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I'm well aware of how tyres wear when incorrectly inflated. The point is waiting till this happens is daft and i was asking specifically for pressure people are using for the 255 / 275 Vredestein combo.
My bad....its very difficult to gauge someones knowledge of a subject when given only a short text message to work from, but you asked a basic question and I tried to give a basic answer in reply.
Anyway with your great attitude no doubt peeps will be queueing up to help you.

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Running 35-36psi on PS2 at the front must feel like using solid steel for tyres
You might think that, but you would be wrong.
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I have the stock 19s and just picked up the Vreds...255/275 combo...but not mounted yet. My front PS2s still have some life in them. Anyone keep the PS2s on the fronts and put the Vreds on the back for a few thousand miles? Any issues?

Btw...this thread is the sole reason I even heard about these tires. Thanks for the great info.

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For those of you who were running spacers 15/12 on stock 19 inch rims/PS2's who are switching to 275 VRed's in the rear, Are you keeping 12mm spacer in rear? If not, what mm spacer are you changing to accommodate 275 tire in rear?
Anyone know the answer to the question above?
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