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      03-31-2010, 04:13 PM   #287
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I went 245/275. I like it.

Semi-off topic, just discovered Vredestein makes mountain bike tires. I'm going to make mine match
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What size tires are u 19inch m3 oem wheels users going?
I just ordered mine from groupawheels in 255/35/19 and 275/35/19
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      04-05-2010, 08:17 AM   #289
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I went 245/275. I like it.

Semi-off topic, just discovered Vredestein makes mountain bike tires. I'm going to make mine match
Their winter tires, WinTRAC Extreme, is also AWESOME!
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You describe my experience with Vreds exactly. As mentioned above, I think that it has to do with flat spotting.
Now that the weather is on the warm side, I can definitely feel a difference on my Vred's. Much smoother now. I guess it's the type of tires that need to be warmed up good. My conclusion is: very good tires overall but I wouldn't use them up north
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      04-05-2010, 10:44 AM   #291
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anybody have any experience running these on 20s?
looking to see if these would work without rubbing on the following spec:
BBS LM-R 20x9.5 +23 front - 255/30/20
20x10+18 rear - 285/30/20
e93 m3 lowered on either dinan (7/8" front, 3/4" rear) or eibach (1" front, 3/5" rear) springs
an earlier thread mentioned that 255/30/20 on the front will only work with bridgestones potenzas and nittos. would these vreds be excluded as well?
I'm running 20" vreds but not in those sizes you are looking for. I run 245s in front and 295s in the rear. Anything larger than 245s would rub in a full lock especially with a drop
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      04-05-2010, 11:20 AM   #292
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I'm running 20" vreds but not in those sizes you are looking for. I run 245s in front and 295s in the rear. Anything larger than 245s would rub in a full lock especially with a drop
+1 on the 255 front. Do you experience any rubbing in the rear with 295/25/20? Also, what springs do you have? I rub a little on 295/25/20 PS2's dropped on Eibach springs, but I believe PS2's have beefier sidewalls than most so maybe the Vred's wouldn't rub. Definitely looking into a set as my next tires.
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I need new tyres and I am about to pull the plug on the Vreds mostly based on what I have read on this forum.

Any further reviews / user feedback? Any regrets?
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      04-08-2010, 10:09 AM   #294
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I need new tyres and I am about to pull the plug on the Vreds mostly based on what I have read on this forum.

Any further reviews / user feedback? Any regrets?
No regrets. In summary -

Pros:
- Inexpensive
- Very good performance, including rain
- Stiff sidewalls = responsive
- Great looking

Cons:
- Limited sizes
- Limited dealers (in US)
- Stiff sidewalls = hard ride (not as bad as runflats)
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      04-08-2010, 01:41 PM   #295
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anybody have any experience running these on 20s?
looking to see if these would work without rubbing on the following spec:
BBS LM-R 20x9.5 +23 front - 255/30/20
20x10+18 rear - 285/30/20
e93 m3 lowered on either dinan (7/8" front, 3/4" rear) or eibach (1" front, 3/5" rear) springs
an earlier thread mentioned that 255/30/20 on the front will only work with bridgestones potenzas and nittos. would these vreds be excluded as well?
+1 - thinking about these as my next set of tires, in the sizes listed above.

Anyone?

Thanks!
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      04-13-2010, 10:56 PM   #296
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Put my OEM 19s on today with the new Vreds----really great driving and really cool looking too I might add. Used the 255 and 275 setup
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      04-22-2010, 02:37 PM   #297
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For those SoCal people who are in the SGV, I got my RACs mounted with Vreds 255 and 275 35 19 for a great deal: $710 out the door including mounting and balancing.

I'd give this place a try:

Tire Central
5132 North Walnut Grove Avenue, San Gabriel, CA 91776
(626) 698-1182‎

Tell Donald that Albert referred you and he'll hook it up!
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      04-22-2010, 07:16 PM   #298
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[...] I got my RACs mounted with Vreds 255 and 275 35 19 for a great deal: $710 out the door including mounting and balancing.
That's incredible. I can barely get two tires for that price here, let alone mounting and balancing.
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      04-22-2010, 08:43 PM   #299
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2K miles on my Vreds now with the RAC RG63s. They really are fantastic tires, and quite an amazing bargain. I've now decided I like them better than the PS2s because they have equal warm weather grip, and they are better in the rain.

I'm still not feeling the comparatively higher levels of harshness and road noise that others report. I did notice that after my car sat for 2 weeks after a long business trip, it took 10 minutes or so to even out a bit of flat spotting, but it was still cold at that time.

My 8K PS2s are still on my OEM 19's so one weekend, I'll switch back to refresh my memory, for a better comparison.
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I did notice that after my car sat for 2 weeks after a long business trip, it took 10 minutes or so to even out a bit of flat spotting, but it was still cold at that time.
I get that with the PS2s even after only a few days.

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My 8K PS2s are still on my OEM 19's so one weekend, I'll switch back to refresh my memory, for a better comparison.
That would be very interesting...I am loath to switch from the PS2s as they give such great front end grip and a sharp turn in.
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Actually, I think turn-in is one of the dimensions upon which the Vreds have an edge. Grip seems about equal on dry pavement, but the Vreds are superior in wet conditions.
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About the only thing that I don't like about the PS2s is the drop off in performance with low temps...typically dropping below ~7C makes a significant difference. Are the VREDESTEIN Ultrac Sessantas any different?
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oem 19's hows the performance with 255/275's? Any other tires that are better than the Vredestein?
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oem 19's hows the performance with 255/275's? Any other tires that are better than the Vredestein?
Definitely none better for the price for street use. Not sure that PS2s are any better except slighlty better in ride comfort. It'd be interesting to see performance tests head-to-head between these two.
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Definitely none better for the price for street use. Not sure that PS2s are any better except slighlty better in ride comfort. It'd be interesting to see performance tests head-to-head between these two.
Agreed. I don't even notice a difference in ride comfort. It feels exactly like the same car it was on the PS2s.
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Agreed. I don't even notice a difference in ride comfort. It feels exactly like the same car it was on the PS2s.
I disagree. Sidewalls are definitely stiffer; I've gotten used to them, but felt pretty harsh at first. PS3s, when available in the right sizes, may be the best street tire (TBD), but they will be much more expensive.
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I disagree. Sidewalls are definitely stiffer; I've gotten used to them, but felt pretty harsh at first. PS3s, when available in the right sizes, may be the best street tire (TBD), but they will be much more expensive.
That's fine. I don't feel a noticeable difference in ride comfort. You have your perception, and I have mine.
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That's fine. I don't feel a noticeable difference in ride comfort. You have your perception, and I have mine.
+1, I don't feel the ride that much harsher compared to the PS2s. Performance-wise, it's relatively close to the PS2s and for the money, it can't be beat.
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