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      06-10-2009, 11:55 AM   #23
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Eastside Nissan.

They have (or had) 4 GTRs. One new 2009, one new 2010, and two used 2009 (I drove one of these). One of the used ones was bought back under lemon law and I was told 'has a completely new transmission', though I'm not sure I'd consider that a selling point.
I looked at this car, too. The salesman was a total skeezeball and did everything but call it a lemon. I was suspicious that nissan would "buy back a car" to "keep the customer from having it in shop for repair" for a "minor issue" with the transmission. He also bragged about having it up to 160 on a straightaway on 520. I wouldn't buy a car there unless it had 0 miles on the odo.
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      06-10-2009, 11:57 AM   #24
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you LOSE your warranty if:

-you take it to a dyno
-you take it to a track
-you turn off traction control
Same skeezeball sales guy referenced above actually built this into his sales pitch. How he can get away with allegedly joyriding at 160MPH (then selling it as new), but not letting you dyno or track the car is ridiculous.
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I looked at this car, too. The salesman was a total skeezeball and did everything but call it a lemon. I was suspicious that nissan would "buy back a car" to "keep the customer from having it in shop for repair" for a "minor issue" with the transmission. He also bragged about having it up to 160 on a straightaway on 520. I wouldn't buy a car there unless it had 0 miles on the odo.
Dealer's don't buy back cars of the kindness of their hearts. I actually posted a pic of this sticker on this car, where one can clearly see it was bought back due to Lemon law:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=52
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Dealer's don't buy back cars of the kindness of their hearts. I actually posted a pic of this sticker on this car, where one can clearly see it was bought back due to Lemon law:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...1&postcount=52
I didn't check the window sticker. I knew there was something more going on that the guy wasn't telling me, I guess a closer look would have cleared it right up.
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Go troll elsewhere
Only thing that will be trolling is your transmission after you use launch control.




Flame fest on.
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Only thing that will be trolling is your transmission after you use launch control.




Flame fest on.
Why is it always the 335i owners?
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Doesn't Nissan have a nice forum...go troll that one
So I'm the troll for ripping iDrive? Sheez.
Do you honestly like it?
I've owned an M6 and an X5 with it and its god awful.
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So I'm the troll for ripping iDrive? Sheez.
Do you honestly like it?
I've owned an M6 and an X5 with it and its god awful.
its better than the mercedes COMMAND circa 2006-2008
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its better than the mercedes COMMAND circa 2006-2008
No not really.
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I can't say I tested the Idrive in any other BMW models but I'm perfectly fine with the IDrive on my 09. I like it much better then the interface I tried on a C63AMG.

Anyways,enough about radio controls. I wish I had a chance to test out the GTR. I'm sure it's fast and precise and godly on the track... but what's the point if you can't even use it for what it was built for? The GTR is a car without a purpose. It's a track vehicle that cannot be tracked without fear of breaking and voiding warranty. It's got seats for 4 (It's a 2+2 right?), and a large boot for your gear but who the hell buys one to take on trips or to the country club?

The vehicle drives itself. The computers do more of the driving then the driver. This is the argument of why it has a "video game" feel to it. You're going fast, no doubt. But anyone with experience behind a machine built more for enjoyment and "feel" then just to put down sheer numbers will understand.

I know I'm just bench racing but I've read countless threads on this subject and this seems to be the deciding factor for me. Why build a car that can achieve such phenomenal feats but not allow the driver to experience it's full capabilities? Would you date a super hot high maintenance girl if you know all she would ever do was give you a handjob at best? I know Porsche and BMW will stand behind their cars. Why not Nissan? BTW, I was a Nissan Fanboy pre - GTR hype.

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I just reread my post and I think it came out a little harsher then I wanted... Sorry to any GTR owners or fans. I actually wanted to be first in line for when the GTR came out but after hearing about jacked up prices and then the warranty issues came out... I had to back down.
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Well said Jackolo.
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No not really.
i have a 2006 ML500 and it's COMMAND about as bad as it gets, totally un-userfriendly and you have to reach up to the dash for everything....i much prefer my first gen idrive.... just the concept of having the controller near the shifter that controls everything vs. a maze of buttons up on the dash is superior
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i have a 2006 ML500 and it's COMMAND about as bad as it gets, totally un-userfriendly and you have to reach up to the dash for everything....i much prefer my first gen idrive.... just the concept of having the controller near the shifter that controls everything vs. a maze of buttons up on the dash is superior
Well I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
IDrive is the most awful interface in a car that I've ever experienced.
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I guess in the end, would you guys rather have their centralized interfaces or 100 buttons all around the cockpit?

rapistwit: Any more pics of your CLK Black? I absolutely love that car and hope to import one into Canada someday.
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I can't say I tested the Idrive in any other BMW models but I'm perfectly fine with the IDrive on my 09. I like it much better then the interface I tried on a C63AMG.

Anyways,enough about radio controls. I wish I had a chance to test out the GTR. I'm sure it's fast and precise and godly on the track... but what's the point if you can't even use it for what it was built for? The GTR is a car without a purpose. It's a track vehicle that cannot be tracked without fear of breaking and voiding warranty. It's got seats for 4 (It's a 2+2 right?), and a large boot for your gear but who the hell buys one to take on trips or to the country club?

The vehicle drives itself. The computers do more of the driving then the driver. This is the argument of why it has a "video game" feel to it. You're going fast, no doubt. But anyone with experience behind a machine built more for enjoyment and "feel" then just to put down sheer numbers will understand.

I know I'm just bench racing but I've read countless threads on this subject and this seems to be the deciding factor for me. Why build a car that can achieve such phenomenal feats but not allow the driver to experience it's full capabilities? Would you date a super hot high maintenance girl if you know all she would ever do was give you a handjob at best? I know Porsche and BMW will stand behind their cars. Why not Nissan? BTW, I was a Nissan Fanboy pre - GTR hype.

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I just reread my post and I think it came out a little harsher then I wanted... Sorry to any GTR owners or fans. I actually wanted to be first in line for when the GTR came out but after hearing about jacked up prices and then the warranty issues came out... I had to back down.
Very well said...

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Well I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
IDrive is the most awful interface in a car that I've ever experienced.
Nothing to say to the post above?

Do you own an M3 or a BMW for that matter?
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I guess in the end, would you guys rather have their centralized interfaces or 100 buttons all around the cockpit?

rapistwit: Any more pics of your CLK Black? I absolutely love that car and hope to import one into Canada someday.
why import?
cant you buy 1 in Canada?
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Very well said...



Nothing to say to the post above?

Do you own an M3 or a BMW for that matter?

It's funny when owners of other vehicles see their car in the "M3 vs.." section and run to defend their car. Like you said before Slammed, there's no point in getting this car. If you touch the door "handle" wrong, you lose your warranty.

The GTR has impressive numbers but can't say I like the styling or the video game display. I haven't been able to try this in the GTR yet but i heard you get more boost if you enter Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A.
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It's funny when owners of other vehicles see their car in the "M3 vs.." section and run to defend their car. Like you said before Slammed, there's no point in getting this car. If you touch the door "handle" wrong, you lose your warranty.

The GTR has impressive numbers but can't say I like the styling or the video game display. I haven't been able to try this in the GTR yet but i heard you get more boost if you enter Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A.
you played Contra before I see hahahahah
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Very well said...



Nothing to say to the post above?

Do you own an M3 or a BMW for that matter?


Is that directed at me?
If so, yeah I own an X5 (as I have previously stated).
And I have owned a 325Xi wagon, an X3, an e46 M3, and an M6.
If not, nevermind.
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It's funny when owners of other vehicles see their car in the "M3 vs.." section and run to defend their car. Like you said before Slammed, there's no point in getting this car. If you touch the door "handle" wrong, you lose your warranty.

The GTR has impressive numbers but can't say I like the styling or the video game display. I haven't been able to try this in the GTR yet but i heard you get more boost if you enter Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A.


What I find funny is owners of certain cars trashing another car repeatedly without bothering to even drive it. And its especially funny reading certain people in modified cars trashing another vehicle over a weak warranty.
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I guess in the end, would you guys rather have their centralized interfaces or 100 buttons all around the cockpit?

rapistwit: Any more pics of your CLK Black? I absolutely love that car and hope to import one into Canada someday.

here are a few. I'm not sure if they're reposts.
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its better than the mercedes COMMAND circa 2006-2008
disagree, though idrive is really not that bad, wouldnt dissuade me from buying an m3, but yes it shouldve been so much better, and i use navi all the time/
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