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      04-22-2009, 10:40 PM   #1
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Arrow Extreme Performance Summer Tires?

Looking up some new tires for a new set of wheels ... came across the Bridgestone Potenza RE-11, which is classified as Extreme, at around $1.1k a set.

Question is, since the RE-11 is classified as Extreme Performance, a level higher than PS2's Max Performance, does it provide better performance at a cheaper price?

Also 305/30/19 on ET 28 10.5" wheels should clear the rear right?

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The wheels should clear no problem. I have Nitto Invo 305/30's on my M3, and they fit perfectly.

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wow 1.1k a SET !!!!
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That sounds about right.

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Looking up some new tires for a new set of wheels ... came across the Bridgestone Potenza RE-11, which is classified as Extreme, at around $1.1k a set.

Question is, since the RE-11 is classified as Extreme Performance, a level higher than PS2's Max Performance, does it provide better performance at a cheaper price?

Also 305/30/19 on ET 28 10.5" wheels should clear the rear right?

Thanks!
I haven't a seen head-to head test. The few reviews are very positive. The wear rating would indicate they'll only last 3/4 as long as PS2s, but then, they only cost 3/4 as much, so that's a wash. While the tread design looks similar, I do note they are 3-4 lbs heavier than the Michelins. Try 'em, though!
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Yeah, they are heavy!
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umh, bargain in comparison to Pirelli PZeros in Canada (255/35/19 and 295/30/19) at $1800 CDN from 1010tires. That's about $1440US.
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Yeah they are indeed heavier than PS2s, but again, PS2s are really light.

I guess I will give them a try and report back!
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umh, bargain in comparison to Pirelli PZeros in Canada (255/35/19 and 295/30/19) at $1800 CDN from 1010tires. That's about $1440US.
Well, again, you need to look at how long they are likely to last. UTQG ratings:

RE-011 - 180
PZero - 220
PS2 - 240

Factoring the wear rating with cost will give a better idea.
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Well, again, you need to look at how long they are likely to last. UTQG ratings:

RE-011 - 180
PZero - 220
PS2 - 240

Factoring the wear rating with cost will give a better idea.
True, but also you need to consider the design. From my understanding the RE-011 is designed more towards performance (Extreme Performance Summer), and this may be the reason of having less tread. For example, Cups only have a wear rating of 80.

Also, according to tire rack, the rating system could be very subjective depending on the manufacturer.
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why don't you get PSC??
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True, but also you need to consider the design. From my understanding the RE-011 is designed more towards performance (Extreme Performance Summer), and this may be the reason of having less tread. For example, Cups only have a wear rating of 80.

Also, according to tire rack, the rating system could be very subjective depending on the manufacturer.
I wouldn't put tooo much credence in that descriptor. Until there is a 3rd party review head-to-head, it's very subjective. While the tread design is very similar, the Bridgestone's obviously look more like a track tire. I would expect they will be more prone to hydroplaning in wet conditions. And, the weight is a negative. On the other hand, they should kick butt in the dry, and are not too expensive to at least try.




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why don't you get PSC??
Because they are too expensive for everyday use, and they are worthless in the rain!
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UTQG - 80!!

Fine for a dry HPDE tire, but not practical for the street, unless you can afford to replace them every 3 months.
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UTQG - 80!!

Fine for a dry HPDE tire, but not practical for the street, unless you can afford to replace them every 3 months.
Or if you have a CSL which comes standard with PSCs! I think in the UK E92 w/ 19" wheels come with PSCs as well... I guess if you can afford an M3 with all the taxes in the UK they assume you'll afford tires!
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oh okay
what about the nitto NT05?
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oh okay
what about the nitto NT05?
+1 I am planning on picking up a set of these
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I'd get a set of the RE-11. My friend had RE01R on his Z4M Roadster which were amazing, and the RE11 are the generation after.

I just ordered a set of PSC+ (that plus means BMW OE and that they are slightly less prone to hydroplaning), but I would have definitely gotten the RE11 if they were available for the EU market.
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should be a good tire choice but youre going to give up a lot of treadwear... as long as thats not a problem i think this is a good choice. also youre right bout PSCs, they wear out way too quickly and are worthless in the rain.
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I assume these compete with the NT-05's?
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Last I checked, the PS2 was the best "extreme summer performance" tire shy of R-comps. If you aren't going R-compound, pony up for the PS2s.
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Last I checked, the PS2 was the best "extreme summer performance" tire shy of R-comps. If you aren't going R-compound, pony up for the PS2s.


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