Installed: Macht Schnell Wheel Spacers (15/12 on E90)

REP1KRR · 03-15-2009, 04:50 PM

Thanks Simon @ RENNSpec!

These things are works of art. I'm finding most everything from Macht Schnell is! Black extended lug bolts included in their Competition Kit.
http://www.renn-spec.com/SearchResul...=macht+schnell

Suspension is stock - no drop.
OEM Wheels/Tires.

Front: 15mm
Rear: 12mm

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DoNDoN · 03-15-2009, 05:08 PM

That looks great. I think this is the way it should have come from the factory.

psuwcc112 · 03-15-2009, 05:28 PM

That looks nice man, i am thinking of doing this little mod of my own too. Any shimmy or vibration issue??

busman76 · 03-15-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by psuwcc112

That looks nice man, i am thinking of doing this little mod of my own too. Any shimmy or vibration issue??

If there are you have them on incorrectly

rsmamg · 03-15-2009, 06:59 PM

interesting you did 15 front 12 rear, i was thinking of the opposite, 15 rear and 12 in front. Any reason you chose to not do as much in the rear?

I figured too much in the front might throw a lot of road up to the side mirrors.

DoNDoN · 03-15-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmamg

interesting you did 15 front 12 rear, i was thinking of the opposite, 15 rear and 12 in front. Any reason you chose to not do as much in the rear?

I figured too much in the front might throw a lot of road up to the side mirrors.

The front fender on these cars are so wide you can run a more aggressive up front than the rear. You can see the front and rears are both flush with the fender.

REP1KRR · 03-15-2009, 09:20 PM

Thanks guys. I love it.

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Originally Posted by rsmamg

interesting you did 15 front 12 rear, i was thinking of the opposite, 15 rear and 12 in front. Any reason you chose to not do as much in the rear?

I figured too much in the front might throw a lot of road up to the side mirrors.

The popular set-up seems to be a 15 front and 10 rear, but I wanted a bit more in the rear. I think the 12 out back is perfect. Some have run 15 on all corners, but I think that's a bit too much bulge for the rear. But everyone likes something different, so its all good.

GregW / Oregon · 03-15-2009, 09:28 PM

Looks nice, though I may go 12/12.

camaross305 · 03-15-2009, 09:47 PM

very nice looks much better

REP1KRR · 03-15-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by psuwcc112

Any shimmy or vibration issue??

That's an interesting thing. Temperamental too. I've had just a bit right at 80mph, as many others have, but its very inconsistent. I also agree with others that it accentuates any existing mis-balancing in tires. My rears are warn to near replacing, so I'm determined to examine this a bit closer when I get new tires soon and I can verify proper balancing. Again, its inconsistent with any road condition, temperature and time driving the car.

doba_s · 03-15-2009, 11:50 PM

it looks great ...

how do you guys take them off ... I had 10mm on the back and it was a hell to take them off ... It took me like 1.5 to take the rear spacers off ... broke two screw drivers and it was just a PITA ... Are there any tricks ?

tom @ eas · 03-16-2009, 01:45 PM

Awesome pictures - thanks for taking the time to post before/after shots.

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Originally Posted by doba_s

it looks great ...

how do you guys take them off ... I had 10mm on the back and it was a hell to take them off ... It took me like 1.5 to take the rear spacers off ... broke two screw drivers and it was just a PITA ... Are there any tricks ?

As long as the hub surface is clean, you shouldn't have any problems with removal if needed.

Technic · 03-16-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

it looks great ...

how do you guys take them off ... I had 10mm on the back and it was a hell to take them off ... It took me like 1.5 to take the rear spacers off ... broke two screw drivers and it was just a PITA ... Are there any tricks ?

You must use anti-seize compound on the hubs/spacers before installation or you will go thru that calvary each and every time of taking them off...

kmarei · 03-16-2009, 02:02 PM

would be nice to put anti seize only between the wheel and the spacer
not between the spacer and the hub
that way whenever you are changing tire etc
you don't have to worry about the spacer falling off?

Technic · 03-16-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

would be nice to put anti seize only between the wheel and the spacer
not between the spacer and the hub
that way whenever you are changing tire etc
you don't have to worry about the spacer falling off?

If you want to remove the spacers without becoming Hulk, you must use anti-seize between the spacer and the hub, there's no way around it.

All the spacers that I have bough so far (H&R, Turner and Velocity Motorcars) fit tight enough over the hub as to stay put while changing tires. The Velocity Motorcars spacers in particular are screwed first into the brake disc, so they do not move at all once installed.

kmarei · 03-16-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

If you want to remove the spacers without becoming Hulk, you must use anti-seize between the spacer and the hub, there's no way around it.

All the spacers that I have bough so far (H&R, Turner and Velocity Motorcars) fit tight enough over the hub as to stay put while changing tires. The Velocity Motorcars spacers in particular are screwed first into the brake disc, so they do not move at all once installed.

do they just replace the OEM screw that hold the brake disc with the longer one?

that's what was worrying me about using spacers
just the hassle of having them fall of when i remove a wheel
and that some idiot mechanic would forget to remount them when i switched from summer to winter wheels etc
never used spacers before so have no idea how easy it is for them to fall off

Technic · 03-16-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

do they just replace the OEM screw that hold the brake disc with the longer one?

that's what was worrying me about using spacers
just the hassle of having them fall of when i remove a wheel
and that some idiot mechanic would forget to remount them when i switched from summer to winter wheels etc
never used spacers before so have no idea how easy it is for them to fall off

Yes...

REP1KRR · 03-16-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

do they just replace the OEM screw that hold the brake disc with the longer one?

Yes. This is what is included.

doba_s · 03-17-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

If you want to remove the spacers without becoming Hulk, you must use anti-seize between the spacer and the hub, there's no way around it.

All the spacers that I have bough so far (H&R, Turner and Velocity Motorcars) fit tight enough over the hub as to stay put while changing tires. The Velocity Motorcars spacers in particular are screwed first into the brake disc, so they do not move at all once installed.

I put some Mobil1 grease on the hub, but the fitment was super tight (H&R) that you can't even move them 1mm, and they were on the car for like 4 days or so...

Technic · 03-17-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

I put some Mobil1 grease on the hub, but the fitment was super tight (H&R) that you can't even move them 1mm, and they were on the car for like 4 days or so...

Most probably the hub was already lightly corroded as spacers can be rotated in a clean hub with grease/anti-seize applied once installed.

doba_s · 03-17-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Most probably the hub was already lightly corroded as spacers can be rotated in a clean hub with grease/anti-seize applied once installed.

yeah that wasn't the case ... it was PITA to align it too ... what would you recommend to make it work ?

doba_s · 03-17-2009, 11:00 AM

the hub itself didnt have any corrosion, except for the inner part ...

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rsmamg Flying First Class Drives: M Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CA Posts: 584 iTrader: (0)	interesting you did 15 front 12 rear, i was thinking of the opposite, 15 rear and 12 in front. Any reason you chose to not do as much in the rear? I figured too much in the front might throw a lot of road up to the side mirrors.

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camaross305 Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: gainesville fl Posts: 1,825 iTrader: (20)	very nice looks much better

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doba_s Major General Drives: M3, 1M Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 6,105 iTrader: (26)	it looks great ... how do you guys take them off ... I had 10mm on the back and it was a hell to take them off ... It took me like 1.5 to take the rear spacers off ... broke two screw drivers and it was just a PITA ... Are there any tricks ?

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kmarei Major General Drives: 1988 M3 Evo II Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 6,033 iTrader: (32)	would be nice to put anti seize only between the wheel and the spacer not between the spacer and the hub that way whenever you are changing tire etc you don't have to worry about the spacer falling off?

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doba_s Major General Drives: M3, 1M Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 6,105 iTrader: (26)	the hub itself didnt have any corrosion, except for the inner part ...