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      03-04-2009, 11:28 PM   #45
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People are hung up on the drop issue. If I were to go for these, it would be about the increased stiffness--but not the type of increase you would get if you are constantly riding on the bump stops with the H&Rs for instance. Why do you want your cars aggresively dropped anyway? Apart from the riding on the bump stops issue, you alter the suspension geometry significantly. How is that desirable? All of the reviews I've read about Dinan suspension mods indicate that they get this kind of thing right, in some cases with test data to back it up in terms of lap times and that kind of thing.
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Why spend the money on an //M to then screw up one of the best parts of the car: the handling set-up. To just add an agressive drop screws it all up. To change one thing, requires changing many things, and changing them very carefully and with lots of understanding of how every little difference affects every part. Not easy, and certainly not simple.

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Hey guys, Tim from 503 here. I wanted to chime in on the rate and hours being quoted. I can certainly quote someone 4-5 hours and charge accordingly but that would include taking lunch, going to the restroom and basically loafing around. The job does not take that long. I would prefer to quote an honest rate for the work done and then create a good relationship with the customer that will ultimately result in referrals and more work. Just how we operate. Greg W's car is in great hands and we will post some photos when done if he is ok with that.
Wow, I wish I lived in Portland! You clearly have a very professional work ethic.
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Damn, I really wish this economy hadn't kicked my company in the balls like it has because I wouldn't have had to cancel my order for the //M
Sorry about your business getting caught in the downturn and the cancellation of your M order. Hope your company recovers with time...
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Wow, I wish I lived in Portland! You clearly have a very professional work ethic.
We should be a vendor on here soon.
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Looks good. However still looks fairly similar to the stock ride height
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We should be a vendor on here soon.
Can you show up in Boston and do my Dinan spring install then?
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Can you show up in Boston and do my Dinan spring install then?
Sure, will you cover airfare?
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+1000000.

Why spend the money on an //M to then screw it up one of the best parts of the car: the handling set-up. To just add an agressive drop screws it all up. To change one thing, requires changing many things, and changing them very carefully and with lots of understand of how every little difference affects every part. No easy, and certainly not simple.

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Hey guys, Tim from 503 here. Greg W's car is in great hands and we will post some photos when done if he is ok with that.
Unfortunately, I just heard from Dinan and the springs are back ordered. They won't see them until at least April 6.
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Unfortunately, I just heard from Dinan and the springs are back ordered. They won't see them until at least April 6.
That's a bummer Greg...well guess we will have to do Motons then...hahaha
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That's a bummer Greg...well guess we will have to do Motons then...hahaha
I had coilovers on my E46--I'm staying conservative with this one (for now).
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I've had mine on for a week now. I'm happy with the feel. Definitely tighter and stiffer, but subtle enough that it still has not lost that double life ability to cruise around town comfortably one minute and dive into your favorite corner without feeling comprised the next.
Question: How long does it normally take for springs to settle? I measured before and after and I've only got about 1/4" drop at this point. I'm assuming it's going to settle another 1/4", just wondering how long that normally takes.
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I've had mine on for a week now. I'm happy with the feel. Definitely tighter and stiffer, but subtle enough that it still has not lost that double life ability to cruise around town comfortably one minute and dive into your favorite corner without feeling comprised the next.
Question: How long does it normally take for springs to settle? I measured before and after and I've only got about 1/4" drop at this point. I'm assuming it's going to settle another 1/4", just wondering how long that normally takes.
Another satisfied Dinan client, good to know

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Question: How long does it normally take for springs to settle? I measured before and after and I've only got about 1/4" drop at this point. I'm assuming it's going to settle another 1/4", just wondering how long that normally takes.
Can anyone answer my question regarding how long it takes for the springs to fully settle?
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Can anyone answer my question regarding how long it takes for the springs to fully settle?
Call Dinan and ask. AFAIK there should be no "settling" other than getting fully seated.
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let us know if the car settles lowers after some more miles
Yes just got back from the One Day M School at the PDC in SC and drove it down along with Ase2Dais and it seems to have settled nicely! Did great on the drive and we had too much fun at the PDC. I didn't want to leave! LOL
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If I was lowering the car I'd probably go Eibach - the drop is in between the H&R and Dinan's, just right IMO... but everybody is different...

Anybody have the spring rate specifications on the Dinan springs?
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If I was lowering the car I'd probably go Eibach - the drop is in between the H&R and Dinan's, just right IMO... but everybody is different...
The thing is Dinan says they retain stock suspension travel specs by making other adjustments, namely, the use of shorter and modified (not just cut short) bumpstops and modified guide sports. To the best of my knowledge, no other aftermarket spring vendor deals with this. See Dinan's article here:

http://www.dinancars.com/bmw/technia...pension-travel

So, essentially, you end up with the same suspension travel, slightly firmer springs, and a subtle drop. They say the dampers work well with the slightly firmer spring. I am sure they've explored higher spring stiffness values to see where dampers stop working well with the springs as a system (from a performance and not necessarily a durability perspective), but I haven't seen any discussion on that from them.
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PERFECT! Not stupid low, just perfect.........
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