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      02-15-2009, 03:35 AM   #45
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Is anyone planning on getting the first service done in Europe? Will BMW cover it? I'm planning on going for two weeks, and logging between 1,200 and1,800 miles. I'd love to have the full range of the car available for my last few hundred miles.
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      02-15-2009, 09:18 AM   #46
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The dealer will lose money. They will not get the year end CSI bonus money which is 5% of the base MSRP, which is right around $3k. If the dealer sold the car at $1k over invoice both ways, then they will make the same money up front, but they lose the year end money.
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      02-16-2009, 05:50 PM   #47
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Anyone have a link to the official M3 ED MSRP and Invoice price list
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      02-16-2009, 06:00 PM   #48
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Anyone have a link to the official M3 ED MSRP and Invoice price list
The only number that changes from the "regular" invoice is the Base Price of the car. Just multiply by 93%.
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      02-16-2009, 08:52 PM   #49
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E90 M3: ED MSRP: $51,010; ED Wholesale: $46,930
E92 M3: ED MSRP: $53,800; ED Wholesale: $49,495
E93 M3: ED MSRP: $61,845; ED Wholesale: $56,895
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E90 M3: ED MSRP: $51,010; ED Wholesale: $46,930
E92 M3: ED MSRP: $53,800; ED Wholesale: $49,495
E93 M3: ED MSRP: $61,845; ED Wholesale: $56,895
Thanks for posting gobuffs.

The invoice prices are almost exactly where the E46 was in its final year of production. For anyone on the fence, there's very little reason to hold off now.
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E92 M3: ED MSRP: $53,800; ED Wholesale: $49,495
The latter corresponds to my new pricing model. Interestingly, the delta is

(49,495 / 53,800 ) -1 = -8%

so a 1% more than typical ED -7%.

mkoesel - totally agree. If the buyer is financially sound no reason not to pull the trigger.
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The latter corresponds to my new pricing model. Interestingly, the delta is

(49,495 / 53,800 ) -1 = -8%

so a 1% more than typical ED -7%.

mkoesel - totally agree. If the buyer is financially sound no reason not to pull the trigger.
you are comparing ED MSRP and ED invoice, not the usual US MSRP to ED MSRP. Check those and the numbers should be closer to 7%
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Is there an updated ED pricing list for M3s? I am sorry if I have missed it.
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Is there an updated ED pricing list for M3s? I am sorry if I have missed it.
No but all you have to do is take the existing pricelist and substitute in the numbers gobuffs posted above.
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No but all you have to do is take the existing pricelist and substitute in the numbers gobuffs posted above.
So what would be the invoice for a coupe with DCT, 19", and tech package? Based on the numbers posted by gobuffs and options invoice pricing in US it looks like it should come to ~ 60K give or take (gas guzzler+destination included), does this estimate sound about right or am I missing something?

In any case, whatever the ED invoice pricing is, I wonder what might be a reasonable deal in this economy: ED invoice + how much profit? Has anyone ordered one already and could you share your experience?
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      02-18-2009, 04:15 PM   #56
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So what would be the invoice for a coupe with DCT, 19", and tech package? Based on the numbers posted by gobuffs and options invoice pricing in US it looks like it should come to ~ 60K give or take (gas guzzler+destination included), does this estimate sound about right or am I missing something?

In any case, whatever the ED invoice pricing is, I wonder what might be a reasonable deal in this economy: ED invoice + how much profit? Has anyone ordered one already and could you share your experience?
Don't pay any more than $1,000 over ED invoice. (You can do better than that, too.)The car doesn't come out of the dealer's allocation, so any ED sales are pure profit. Also, don't pay any of the BS floorplan, training, or MACO fees, as these don't apply to Euro cars either. If a dealer plays games, or just doesn't know any better, go somewhere else.

EDIT: I just saw that you're in South Carolina. Make a million phone calls to see which dealer will sell you the car the cheapest, and arrange pickup at the Performance Center. In your case, it makes literally no difference which dealer you buy the car from.
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Don't pay any more than $1,000 over ED invoice. The car doesn't come out of the dealer's allocation, so any ED sales are pure profit. Also, don't pay any of the BS floorplan, training, or MACO fees, as these don't apply to Euro cars either. If a dealer plays games, or just doesn't know any better, go somewhere else.

EDIT: I just saw that you're in South Carolina. Make a million phone calls to see which dealer will sell you the car the cheapest, and arrange pickup at the Performance Center. In your case, it makes literally no difference which dealer you buy the car from.
Thanks, I was thinking about combining PCD and ED. I was just concerned that given the price reduction from the base US invoice, dealers might be charging more than the invoice+(500 to 1000) deals that people have reported on regular US deliveries.
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      02-18-2009, 08:38 PM   #58
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Thanks, I was thinking about combining PCD and ED. I was just concerned that given the price reduction from the base US invoice, dealers might be charging more than the invoice+(500 to 1000) deals that people have reported on regular US deliveries.
You're really in a perfect position. You can buy from any dealer in the U.S., and really have no repercussions. I'd send out a bunch of emails offering $500 over invoice to any dealer willing to get you an ED car. Someone will bite. The paperwork isn't that difficult. If it takes the sales guy two hours to do everything, and I'm sure it won't, that's pretty good pay given that it is unlikely that he will be selling another car during that time. (He can do the paperwork after business hours if he wants.) Just don't be a pain in the ass bothering him for daily updates, or expecting anything unreasonable from him. Once you get confirmation of the order and delivery day, don't bother him until he calls for final payment. After that, I wouldn't even call to ask the status of your transportation after you leave Europe. Just check the web site. Everybody wins.
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In any case, whatever the ED invoice pricing is, I wonder what might be a reasonable deal in this economy: ED invoice + how much profit? Has anyone ordered one already and could you share your experience?
My ED order
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230794

I just ordered one with ED invoice plus 1k profit. Im sure you can get $500 above ED invoice if you shop around.
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I am sure you can probably find a dealer that will do $500 over ED invoice. Like people have said you can buy from any dealer in US and take redelivery at the PC. I will make the arguement for the other side in that paying a bit more might make a bit less headaches when you deal with a dealer that has done EDs before. ED presents its own set of issues that somebody who hasn't done some before might have some problems negotiating. I have heard some horror stories. The best forum on the net for BMW ED is on bimmerfest.com
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Will my local dealer supply a loaner if the car is bought out of state

Like the idea of shopping out of town and taking delivery at the performance center with ED but is my hometown dealer required to give me a loaner
during an overnight service?
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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230794

I just ordered one with ED invoice plus 1k profit. Im sure you can get $500 above ED invoice if you shop around.
Thanks, so ED+1000 is definitely doable!
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Like the idea of shopping out of town and taking delivery at the performance center with ED but is my hometown dealer required to give me a loaner
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They aren't required to, but if you have competing dealers within a reasonable distance, they normally will do it. Nowadays, dealers make far more profit from servicing cars than from selling them. I have often heard dealers use the "we'll give you a loaner if you buy here" line to make a sale, but I'm not sure I've ever heard of someone being denied a car, unless they've run out. Get in good with the Service guy, and he'll take care of you. He gets paid based on service, not on where the car he's servicing was purchased from.
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Ok so I looked up all the pricing and read through this thread. Wow looks like you really do save a lot with ED. I put together a whole pricing list of what options I would want and priced it out at invoice. Wondering if someone who is familiar with ED could look at this and tell me if it is accurate or off. I priced the car at ED invoice and all options at US invoice that was available on this site. One thing I didn't see anyone mention was TAX. I live in NJ, do I have to pay NJ sales tax, or is there no tax since i'm purchasing it straight from Munich?

Also has anyone dealt with trade-in's with ED, or is that just not an option since you aren't really buying off the lot? I would think it may be a way to get it directly at ED invoice since the dealer will make profit off the Trade In... no?

$50,970 = US Invoice (7% over ED invoice)
$47,402 ED E90 invoice
$2,640 DCT
$1,090 19 wheels
$365 Alarm
$955 Moonroof
$365 iPod
$500 Paint
$865 Leather
$910 CW package
$1,820 Premium Package
$2,960 Tech Package
$825 Destination
$1,300 Gas Guzzler
$1,000 Dealer Profit
$62,997 Total

Taxes???

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Another board has a European Delivery specific forum...
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