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      02-10-2009, 03:45 PM   #1
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Exclamation M Pricing - European Delivery Discount!

BMW announced that starting with orders placed 2FEB09 for Munich pick-up, European Delivery pricing will be applied. That's a 7% discount! I applaud BMW for this new program! Now you can drive a Jerez Black M3 to Spain and have some extra cash for the F1 race in Valencia! Drive the Green Hell with a bigger grin. Go BMW!

Speaking of color choices, Individual is now accepting orders for Munich pick up vehicles. More great news from a great company!

ED Pricing
e90: 51010
e92: 53800
e93: 61845
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This is a dream that I thought would never happen!!! Wow! That's GREAT!
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Wow, so ruff was right!

This is excellent, excellent news. But the bad part is that I caved on the 0.9% deals so I already have my car. However, maybe I can convince the wife that she really wants an E90 M3.

I wonder what is BMW financing like for 2009s these days. Still at 3.9%?

Does anyone have ED MSRP and Invoice price for the M3 (and all Ms)? Man oh man, I really want to drive an M3 in Europe!
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It's great if you want to make a vacation out of it, but I got a ~10% discount off of MSRP right here in the US without having to worry about shipping and driving all the way back to California.
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It's great if you want to make a vacation out of it, but I got a ~10% discount off of MSRP right here in the US without having to worry about shipping and driving all the way back to California.
You will get more than 10% at ED invoice. For example, we got our e90 335i which was about $38,500 (at the time) base MSRP for about $34,000 (before option) which was a bit over ED invoice. It was something like 12% off.
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I don't think there will be a ED invoice. I think the 7% off the op is referring to is 7% off US MSRP. I may be wrong about this, but I think 7% off would refer to the first time M models are available at ED MSRP. I don't think we will see a ED invoice any time soon.

By the way, 2009s are getting 2.9% for financing.
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I don't think there will be a ED invoice. I think the 7% off the op is referring to is 7% off US MSRP. I may be wrong about this, but I think 7% off would refer to the first time M models are available at ED MSRP. I don't think we will see a ED invoice any time soon.

By the way, 2009s are getting 2.9% for financing.
There appears to be some confusion. The ED MSRP is approx 7% off whatever US MSRP you come up with. I can assist with additional savings off the great pricing from BMW. Email or PM. Thanks.
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If you take the U.S invoice base price, subtract 7% then thats your base ED invoice pricing.

Base U.S invoice: $50,140

Subtract 7% then you get....

Base ED Invoice: $46,630

Then add options at invoice pricing and thats how you get ED invoice. At least thats what i am assuming
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I don't think there will be a ED invoice. I think the 7% off the op is referring to is 7% off US MSRP. I may be wrong about this, but I think 7% off would refer to the first time M models are available at ED MSRP. I don't think we will see a ED invoice any time soon.
That is a highly unlikely scenario. The reason I say this is because every single pricing schedule I've ever seen for any BMW includes:

Base MSRP and Invoice
Diplomatic MSRP and Invoice
European Delivery MSRP and Invoice

This, by the way, includes M vehicles. That's right, those numbers have always been there for M vehicles. However, the three MSRP and three Invoice numbers will traditionally be the same when purchasing an M. I strongly, strongly doubt that BMW will suddenly and arbitrarily just abolish the notion of ED Invoice pricing entirely just because they now offer the discounted price for M products.

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By the way, 2009s are getting 2.9% for financing.
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I don't think there will be a ED invoice. I think the 7% off the op is referring to is 7% off US MSRP. I may be wrong about this, but I think 7% off would refer to the first time M models are available at ED MSRP. I don't think we will see a ED invoice any time soon.

By the way, 2009s are getting 2.9% for financing.
Yes, you are wrong about this. And no, this isn't the first time M cars have been available with the ED discount. The ED discount was phased out on M cars with the intro of the E39 M5.

ED MSRP is 7% less than US MSRP, ED invoice is 7% less than US invoice....therefore ED invoice is ~14% less than US MSRP.
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Yes, you are wrong about this. And no, this isn't the first time M cars have been available with the ED discount. The ED discount was phased out on M cars with the intro of the E39 M5.

ED MSRP is 7% less than US MSRP, ED invoice is 7% less than US invoice....therefore ED invoice is ~14% less than US MSRP.
Strange math there..

A-B=100 C-D=100 Does not mean A-D=200. We don't know the difference between Invoice and MSRP, unless it happens to be 7%.

EDInvoice for an M3 would most likely be (current non discounted ED-invoice)-7%
For a Sedan 50,140-7%=$46,530

MSRP is 54,500, so total saving assuming you are comparing purchasing ED at invoice vs purchasing locally at MSRP (unlikely scenario given the economic climate) would be
(54,400-46,530/54,400)*100=14%
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BTW, in case anyone wants to know current pricing:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165927

As stated above, take off about 7% of ED pricing. Options will retain the normal MSRP and Invoice prices (no additional ED discount on options).

Hopefully soon someone can provide the new pricing document similar to this that shows the actual ED numbers.
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Strange math there..

A-B=100 C-D=100 Does not mean A-D=200. We don't know the difference between Invoice and MSRP.
Based on the document above, invoice is about 8% below MSRP.
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BTW, in case anyone wants to know current pricing:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165927

As stated above, take off about 7% of ED pricing. Options will retain the normal MSRP and Invoice prices (no additional ED discount on options).

Hopefully soon someone can provide the new pricing document similar to this that shows the actual ED numbers.
Okay let me get this straight:

E92 M3 Coupe: $52, 900 - 7% = $49, 197

Additional $1500: $49, 197 - 1,500 = $47697

Now would I take another 7% off because I am ED'ing this car? Someone help me here.
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I don't know how ED pricing will work for M cars, but I do know that SAs who specialize in ED cars typically offer cars for $500 to $1000 over ED invoice pricing.

That being said the value of ED pricing is currently diminished because of the aggressive deals being offered due to the economy. These days you can get such insane deals off the lot that ED isn't as appealing.
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Okay let me get this straight:

E92 M3 Coupe: $52, 900 - 7% = $49, 197

Additional $1500: $49, 197 - 1,500 = $47697

Now would I take another 7% off because I am ED'ing this car? Someone help me here.
Take the ED Invoice from the 09 pricing, subtract 7%, add in destination/Handling $825, Gas Guzzler Tax, $1300, whatever options you want at non discounted invoice rate (no need to include Maco+Training on ED which saves you $480) then add in dealer profit, say 1K and there's your price.


On top of that, Title/Doc fees

For leases, include Acquisition fee ~$700-$900
Possibly Security deposit if first timer.
Additional Security deposits to reduce MF (optional)
ED lease Money factor have an ED adder applied, search for the value.
BMW pays your second month lease on ED (basically it's on a ship and your lease starts at Munich Pickup)

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Tank of gas, floormats, road insurance in Europe for a couple of weeks, Fun.
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Take the ED Invoice from the 09 pricing, subtract 7%, add in destination/Handling $825, Gas Guzzler Tax, $1300, whatever options you want at non discounted invoice rate (no need to include Maco+Training on ED which saves you $480) then add in dealer profit, say 1K and there's your price.


On top of that, Title/Doc fees

For leases, include Acquisition fee ~$700-$900
Possibly Security deposit if first timer.
Additional Security deposits to reduce MF (optional)
ED lease Money factor have an ED adder applied, search for the value.
BMW pays your second month lease on ED (basically it's on a ship and your lease starts at Munich Pickup)

Free:
Tank of gas, floormats, road insurance in Europe for a couple of weeks, Fun.
Okay, I think I have it. So using a bone stock E92 M3:

ED Invoice price: $52,900 - 7% = 49,197

+ guzzler/destination = $51322
+ dealer profit = $52,322

So $52,322 for a bone stock E92 M3?!

What about CA tax, and registration, etc???

What about the $1500 discount BMW is doing right now? Is that on top as well?
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Okay, I think I have it. So using a bone stock E92 M3:

ED Invoice price: $52,900 - 7% = 49,197

+ guzzler/destination = $51322
+ dealer profit = $52,322

So $52,322 for a bone stock E92 M3?!

What about CA tax, and registration, etc???

What about the $1500 discount BMW is doing right now? Is that on top as well?
Factor in you have to pay to go to Germany and pick up the vehicle, Some would consider that added cost, I consider it a vacation.

CA/Reg maybe about $500 for plates,reg and doc fees (that's close to what I paid last week).

Not sure about the current BMW discounts but I expect those are only valid for cars on dealers lots right now and won't apply to ED.

Also, don't forget Obamas new incentive, tax on down payments and monthly payments will become deductible.
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I was thinking about doing the Euro Delivery and going on Vacation, But my Only Concern
Is how much the cost will be of shipping the car back to Los Angeles. I wanted to Pick
Up the M3 in Munich and Drive it to France (where I can visit Relatives) and shipping it
back from there.... I have always wondered how much Shipping the car back would be?

Has Anyone done Euro Delivery and might know how much it is to ship back you car?

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I was thinking about doing the Euro Delivery and going on Vacation, But my Only Concern
Is how much the cost will be of shipping the car back to Los Angeles. I wanted to Pick
Up the M3 in Munich and Drive it to France (where I can visit Relatives) and shipping it
back from there.... I have always wondered how much Shipping the car back would be?

Has Anyone done Euro Delivery and might know how much it is to ship back you car?

Thanks

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Doesnt cost extra to ship it back. Just pay the destination fee that you would have to pay anyways if you didnt do ED.

Also BMW has a drop off location in Paris France i think.

Read up. http://www.edbmw.com/main/
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Yeah, BMW has dropoff locations all over western Europe.
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