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      02-22-2008, 02:18 AM   #1
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C&D new m3 sedan does 0-60 in 4.1s

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The M3 is badass.
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I was going to post this here but I got tired. This car DOES whoop ass!! Cant wait for it with the D-C-T...hehe
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      02-22-2008, 11:34 AM   #5
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2008 BMW M3 sedan - Specs

VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
PRICE AS TESTED: $64,450 (base price: $55,875)
ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 244 cu in, 3999cc
Power (SAE net): 414 bhp @ 8300 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 295 lb-ft @ 3900 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual
DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 108.7 in Length: 180.4 in Width: 71.5 in Height: 57.0 in
Curb weight: 3680 lb
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.8 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 24.9 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.4 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.6 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 161 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 328-ft-dia skidpad: 0.95 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 14/20 mpg
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      02-23-2008, 03:37 AM   #6
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Not bad for a sedan at all, only a second off a new Z06. Why only 295 torque though? Even the 135i makes more than that. I would like to see it up around 325 lb-ft at least. That is where I think it loses its steam in the 1/4 mile. 4.1 0-60 should be good for a low 12 or better. Must be the low torque numbers. Still impressive though.
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Not bad for a sedan at all, only a second off a new Z06. Why only 295 torque though? Even the 135i makes more than that. I would like to see it up around 325 lb-ft at least. That is where I think it loses its steam in the 1/4 mile. 4.1 0-60 should be good for a low 12 or better. Must be the low torque numbers. Still impressive though.
You can't have it all with that displacement.

It uses revs to make its HP, and must therefore give up some of the midrange power.
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      02-23-2008, 12:02 PM   #8
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As much as I like the M3 sedan, if I had to choose between the two (both with DCT) I'd go with the C63.

Tuners are getting these engines to 500hp fairly easy and what's better than a 500hp C class?


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      02-23-2008, 01:32 PM   #9
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Have you seen the Top Gear review of the M3 vs Audi RS4 vs C63?

LOL, Even with more power the M3 (Manual Box) seems to be the one to get (in my opinion) even although the C63 has more style design wise.

In general though i think Mercedes comes with more but as usual the price is more
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      02-23-2008, 02:49 PM   #10
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Haha, I like the C63 too ''Tuned 1.'' Too bad the damn car hates to turn. I watched the Fifth Gear video of it against the E92 and was very dissappointed. The M was like a scalpel. The C was like butchers knife.
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      02-23-2008, 03:36 PM   #11
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plus it drinks gas like a fat kid eats cake.
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Have you seen the Top Gear review of the M3 vs Audi RS4 vs C63?

LOL, Even with more power the M3 (Manual Box) seems to be the one to get (in my opinion) even although the C63 has more style design wise.

In general though i think Mercedes comes with more but as usual the price is more

Trust me, I appreciate the handling aspect of both the M3 & Rs4, however, for straight line highway driving the AMG's are king. If you notice, I live in the flat lands of Illinois and yes the 's' is silent for all you outsiders. :wink:

Believe me, if I had some of the canyon runs and other awesome terrains in my backyard like others do, my decision would be very different.
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      02-23-2008, 10:53 PM   #13
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You can't have it all with that displacement.

It uses revs to make its HP, and must therefore give up some of the midrange power.
Sure you can. American sports cars make plenty of torque to go with the HP.
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      02-25-2008, 12:07 AM   #14
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M3=
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      02-26-2008, 10:00 PM   #15
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How fast does the c63 does 0-60 now, and I wonder how much faster it can go assuming it can lay down 500hp worth of power. This is utterly insane a production compact car can have so much power with simple tunes.
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i would take the C63...yea thats right, I SAID IT
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I'll take the C63 when I'm 80 live in FL and forgot how to drive through a corner. C63 got hp that's about it and even with 500 hp the M3(stock) will spank it on a race track. if you enjoy driving, BMW all the way if you want a status symbol that will cruse down the highway at high speed buy the merc or a caddy to me there about the same. :wink:
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In general though i think Mercedes comes with more but as usual the price is more
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercedes...amg-sedan.html

"C63 will sticker from $53,800 — the same base price as the BMW M3 sedan."

I'm not a big fan of MB, but the new C63 AMG is a serious threat to the M3.
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"C63 will sticker from $53,800 — the same base price as the BMW M3 sedan."

I'm not a big fan of MB, but the new C63 AMG is a serious threat to the M3.
Not to mention 540hp is a chip,exhaust, and intake away.
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How fast does the c63 does 0-60 now

C&D got 3.9 0-60 & 12.3 @ 116 1/4 mile

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-3.html
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C&D got 3.9 0-60 & 12.3 @ 116 1/4 mile

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-3.html
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Man, I want one!
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I'll take the C63 when I'm 80 live in FL and forgot how to drive through a corner. C63 got hp that's about it and even with 500 hp the M3(stock) will spank it on a race track. if you enjoy driving, BMW all the way if you want a status symbol that will cruse down the highway at high speed buy the merc or a caddy to me there about the same. :wink:
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