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      12-31-2014, 03:25 PM   #1
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Best way to change ESS V3SI supercharger oil?

I'm coming up on my break in change - where do you guys run the drain tube down to? I was thinking remove the front wheel and fender liner, but wonder if there are easier methods.

Also - the blower is cocked at an angle so I'm not sure all of the oil would flow out of the drain since it's not facing directly below. Do I need to jack up the passenger side of the car to get all of the oil out?

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I ran mine to the location in the instructions. Unfortunately the drain line is not long enough to allow much flexibility. I am curious what others say about measuring fluid level and ensuring all the old fluid is drained out as well.
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Yes I just took off wheel and fender liner"which comes in pieces so you only remove a small front part" drained it out and topped it back off.
Drain hose is pretty close to the very bottom so if any oil is actually left after drain its a very small amount, but yes very easy to change and zip tie hose back in place.
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Yes I just took off wheel and fender liner"which comes in pieces so you only remove a small front part" drained it out and topped it back off.
Drain hose is pretty close to the very bottom so if any oil is actually left after drain its a very small amount, but yes very easy to change and zip tie hose back in place.
Did you refill with a full bottle? Or go by the dipstick?
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Did you refill with a full bottle? Or go by the dipstick?
i used the dip stick as there is always oil in the blower still, putting a complete bottle in will over fill the unit slightly..... I've done this change so many times i can't care to account now, even vortech themselves told me to go by the dip stick, drop them a quick email in doubt.

even going by the dip stick and getting just under the top mark on the dip stick i still managed to push a small amount out the breather port on a track day, it levelled itself after that.
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Use a full bottle. The dip stick is unreliable, in my opinion, and pointless given that we run a vented SC on our cars and not a closed system.

I tried using the dip stick the first time and got frustrated. I received some advice from some local tuners I trust and now just drain as much as I can and then add a full bottle.
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^ Agreed. Same here.
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i say drop the s/c manufacturer an email and get your own answer :-)
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Could you use compressed air through the fill plug to blow out any residual that won't drain due to how the compressor is clocked?
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Could you use compressed air through the fill plug to blow out any residual that won't drain due to how the compressor is clocked?
The first time I did it I measured the amount that came out. It was pretty darn close to the amount I put in so I left good enough alone.
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When i changed oil on my ESS 550kit, i measured the amount of oil that came out, and it was less than a full bottle. It was 3/4 of a bottle to be exact. Replaced it with the same amount. Checked the dipstick, was at the max, checked a few 100 miles later 3 times, same on dipstick. I know this system is vented, but why overfill when its easy to measure before and after.
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When i changed oil on my ESS 550kit, i measured the amount of oil that came out, and it was less than a full bottle. It was 3/4 of a bottle to be exact. Replaced it with the same amount. Checked the dipstick, was at the max, checked a few 100 miles later 3 times, same on dipstick. I know this system is vented, but why overfill when its easy to measure before and after.
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When i changed oil on my ESS 550kit, i measured the amount of oil that came out, and it was less than a full bottle. It was 3/4 of a bottle to be exact. Replaced it with the same amount. Checked the dipstick, was at the max, checked a few 100 miles later 3 times, same on dipstick. I know this system is vented, but why overfill when its easy to measure before and after.
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Being as accurate as possible is definitely important. But for those reading this, its far better to slightly overfill and vent a little fluid than under fill and damage the SC bearings.
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Here is a video they made as well as directions if anyone needs.
http://www.enginelabs.com/news/video...-supercharger/
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Here is a video they made as well as directions if anyone needs.
http://www.enginelabs.com/news/video...-supercharger/
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I drained mine using some irrigation pipe. Then topped up with more than came out, as the excess gets vented out when running hard WOT
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great thread guys! very useful.
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