DIY: Clutch Pedal Spring Removal DIY - Page 5

6MT M3 · 05-21-2012, 08:25 PM

Hi,

I have a 2010 model so I have the plastic green one with two springs. What I did was remove the outer bigger spring but kept the small one in. It helped reduce the wobbling around of clutch pedal a bit. I then removed the silver spring that is hooked on the clutch. Not sure if that is a good idea or not but it made the clutch lighter but for some reason felt more direct than if I had just remove the bigger clutch spring. With the big and small spring still seems like the best way to go but i dont like how the clutch wobbles around.

stefan · 05-21-2012, 08:28 PM

Has anyone with 2010+ cars done this? Any noteworthy improvement? I see how it would significantly change 2008/2009 models (pre 2010 clutch spring change).

6MT M3 · 05-21-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan

Has anyone with 2010+ cars done this? Any noteworthy improvement? I see how it would significantly change 2008/2009 models (pre 2010 clutch spring change).

LOL I just posted... unless you want 2011-2012

stefan · 05-21-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HuangYiChao

LOL I just posted... unless you want 2011-2012

lol... literally within minutes. It's like you read my mind. Thanks for your feedback. Couldn't remember what year went to the dual spring. Looks like 2010 did indeed get it. Thanks again. Keep up the awesome DIY work by the way!

6MT M3 · 05-21-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ndog14

I really hate to bring this thread up, especially as a 328 driver *flame suit on* but my buddy and I were talking about BMW manuals a few minutes ago. We discussed how the M3 does not have a CDV as the regular E9Xs do. He said that only M3s have the clutch pedal spring but not the 328 and 335. As I am out of town I cannot go and check, but do 328s also have the clutch spring?

I would like to know too.... because if they dont why do their pedals not wobble... mine with it removes wobbles left and right and i can push it down about 1-2cm before i feel any increase in need of force to push it down further.

6MT M3 · 05-21-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan

lol... literally within minutes. It's like you read my mind. Thanks for your feedback. Couldn't remember what year went to the dual spring. Looks like 2010 did indeed get it. Thanks again. Keep up the awesome DIY work by the way!

Thanks, for some reason I think early 2009 and late 2008 models have the dual spring versions too... if you look at the previous posts, unless I scanned through them too quickly

stefan · 05-21-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HuangYiChao

Thanks, for some reason I think early 2009 and late 2008 models have the dual spring versions too... if you look at the previous posts, unless I scanned through them too quickly

Oh weird.. good to know.

cmichaelo · 07-11-2012, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuangYiChao

Hi,

I have a 2010 model so I have the plastic green one with two springs. What I did was remove the outer bigger spring but kept the small one in. It helped reduce the wobbling around of clutch pedal a bit. I then removed the silver spring that is hooked on the clutch. Not sure if that is a good idea or not but it made the clutch lighter but for some reason felt more direct than if I had just remove the bigger clutch spring. With the big and small spring still seems like the best way to go but i dont like how the clutch wobbles around.

I test drove a used 2011 M3 this week and was quite disappointed in the clutch feel. Particularly how light it felt and which makes it hard to feel the engagement point because I can't feel the pedal pressure under my foot as I let go of the pedal.

I'm just wondering if removing that spring you mentioned would indeed cause an improvement in the pedal feel, essentially resulting in a somewhat "stiffer" clutch which I guess I prefer.

---M

6MT M3 · 07-12-2012, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cmichaelo

I test drove a used 2011 M3 this week and was quite disappointed in the clutch feel. Particularly how light it felt and which makes it hard to feel the engagement point because I can't feel the pedal pressure under my foot as I let go of the pedal.

I'm just wondering if removing that spring you mentioned would indeed cause an improvement in the pedal feel, essentially resulting in a somewhat "stiffer" clutch which I guess I prefer.

---M

It wont, it actually makes it lighter going down and heavier going up but I could feel the engagement point a little better. If you remove both springs as stated in the first page it should make it feel a lot better but I didnt like how the clutch felt loose and moves right and left, there is also about 1-2cm of up and down movement that is free which does nothing to the clutch which I didnt like. I am afraid the single spring method I tried is just something in my head and has no actual benefits so I might make it stock again and see if what I did is an actual improvement. Lets be truthful, the clutch in our e9x M3 sucks.

tma1c · 07-17-2012, 08:35 PM

has anyone done the spring removal and the clutch stop on an 08? Was wondering how that combo feels.

mtl88 · 07-22-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tma1c

has anyone done the spring removal and the clutch stop on an 08? Was wondering how that combo feels.

I just installed the clutch stop from eBay and I am so happy with the results. I performed the clutch spring removal a few months ago and was also very happy with the results. I should have done this 3 years ago. I definitely recommend both mods mentioned above with the lighted ZHP mod.

Bretster · 08-02-2012, 05:17 PM

I did this on a buddy's 335 and when we finished he had no clutch engagement and i believe he had to bleed the clutch or something with brake fluid and a pressure bleeder.

Is this the case with the M3? I have an 08 M3 and just went out to buy the T15, T20, and T25 torx bits. thanks guys

schnell325 · 08-02-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bretster

I did this on a buddy's 335 and when we finished he had no clutch engagement and i believe he had to bleed the clutch or something with brake fluid and a pressure bleeder.

Is this the case with the M3? I have an 08 M3 and just went out to buy the T15, T20, and T25 torx bits. thanks guys

NO such issue with my '08.

Bretster · 08-02-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by schnell325

NO such issue with my '08.

Sounds good I'll try this now!

pbonsalb · 08-02-2012, 07:39 PM

I just did this. Piece of cake. I sat on the ground on a piece of cardboard next to the door sill. Took about 10 minutes start to finish. No trouble at all removing the circlips or e-clips with a long thin small bladed screwdriver. I did a clutch stop at the same time. I like the pedal feel from the spring loss. Also like the clutch stop. My next shift mod may be the weighted ZHP knob. No need to bleed the clutch slave, though if you do your brakes sometime, do the slave as well.

ndog14 · 08-05-2012, 10:19 PM

So I went to do this on my 07 328xi and to my surprise the previous owner must have done it. I have the clutch stop installed for anyone that needs a reference point.

Bretster · 08-07-2012, 11:02 PM

Just did this on my M3, after all the doubts of not fitting and shit. Worked out nicely, feels amazing, it was free, couldn't ask for a better mod. Thanks M3p

karussell · 08-08-2012, 02:08 AM

whats a recommended clutch stop for this car?

W/// · 08-10-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by karussell

whats a recommended clutch stop for this car?

On my E46, I just went with the cheap route. I got those pads you put under furniture legs so that they don't scratch hardwood floor. Put 2 of those on the carpet. Works just like $20 aftermarket clutch stops.

I'll have to try this clutch spring mod on my 08 since everyone seems to have positive results

pbonsalb · 08-10-2012, 03:59 PM

I am using the $10 ebay stop. It appears to consist of $3 in parts, but you might spend more if you had to buy packages of several parts each.

marksae · 08-10-2012, 04:01 PM

What does the clutch pedal stop do exactly? Does it prevent the clutch pedal from going all the way down to the floor? If so, doesn't that prevent the clutch from being actuated fully when you step on the pedal?

danio · 10-19-2012, 10:41 PM

is there any fix to the pedal wobble? I love the feel of the clutch and really don't want to put the "coilover" back in, but the wobble is driving me nuts!! I also have a 1cm or so of nothing before I can feel the pressure as someone else has stated above.

05-21-2012, 08:25 PM	#89
6MT M3 Lieutenant Drives: 2010 BMW M3 E92 Coupe Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 569 iTrader: (0)	Hi, I have a 2010 model so I have the plastic green one with two springs. What I did was remove the outer bigger spring but kept the small one in. It helped reduce the wobbling around of clutch pedal a bit. I then removed the silver spring that is hooked on the clutch. Not sure if that is a good idea or not but it made the clutch lighter but for some reason felt more direct than if I had just remove the bigger clutch spring. With the big and small spring still seems like the best way to go but i dont like how the clutch wobbles around. __________________ BMW ///M3 Coupe: Alpine White \|\| 19" Forged \|\| 6MT \|\| Premium Package \|\| Black Novillo \|\| Carbon Leather \|\| iPod + USB \|\| Smartphone Completed November 16, 2009 Received December 29,2009

05-21-2012, 08:28 PM	#90
stefan Colonel Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,020 iTrader: (2) Garage List 1999 VF BMW M3 [5.00] 2008 135i [5.00] 2003 M3 [3.10] 2011.75 BMW M3 [4.17] 2009 STi [3.83]	Has anyone with 2010+ cars done this? Any noteworthy improvement? I see how it would significantly change 2008/2009 models (pre 2010 clutch spring change). __________________ ///M Power - 2011.75 LMB M3 6MT (fuelly)

08-05-2012, 10:19 PM	#104
ndog14 Banned Drives: E90 328xi 6MT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,746 iTrader: (0)	So I went to do this on my 07 328xi and to my surprise the previous owner must have done it. I have the clutch stop installed for anyone that needs a reference point. Attached Images

08-08-2012, 02:08 AM	#106
karussell Captain Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 698 iTrader: (0)	whats a recommended clutch stop for this car? __________________ "It gave you amazing satisfaction, but anyone who says he loved it is either a liar or he wasn't going fast enough." - Jackie Stewart on racing at the Nurburgring

08-10-2012, 04:01 PM	#109
marksae Private Drives: ///M Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bay Area Posts: 99 iTrader: (1)	What does the clutch pedal stop do exactly? Does it prevent the clutch pedal from going all the way down to the floor? If so, doesn't that prevent the clutch from being actuated fully when you step on the pedal? __________________ 09 E90 AW ///M3 6MT 07 LBP S2K

07-17-2012, 08:35 PM	#98
tma1c Lieutenant Drives: 08 E93 6MT M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: philly Posts: 551 iTrader: (12)	has anyone done the spring removal and the clutch stop on an 08? Was wondering how that combo feels.

08-02-2012, 05:17 PM	#100
Bretster Lieutenant Drives: N/a Join Date: May 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 402 iTrader: (4)	I did this on a buddy's 335 and when we finished he had no clutch engagement and i believe he had to bleed the clutch or something with brake fluid and a pressure bleeder. Is this the case with the M3? I have an 08 M3 and just went out to buy the T15, T20, and T25 torx bits. thanks guys

08-02-2012, 07:39 PM	#103
pbonsalb Major Drives: 08 E90 M3, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 1,171 iTrader: (3)	I just did this. Piece of cake. I sat on the ground on a piece of cardboard next to the door sill. Took about 10 minutes start to finish. No trouble at all removing the circlips or e-clips with a long thin small bladed screwdriver. I did a clutch stop at the same time. I like the pedal feel from the spring loss. Also like the clutch stop. My next shift mod may be the weighted ZHP knob. No need to bleed the clutch slave, though if you do your brakes sometime, do the slave as well.

08-07-2012, 11:02 PM	#105
Bretster Lieutenant Drives: N/a Join Date: May 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 402 iTrader: (4)	Just did this on my M3, after all the doubts of not fitting and shit. Worked out nicely, feels amazing, it was free, couldn't ask for a better mod. Thanks M3p

08-10-2012, 03:59 PM	#108
pbonsalb Major Drives: 08 E90 M3, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 1,171 iTrader: (3)	I am using the $10 ebay stop. It appears to consist of $3 in parts, but you might spend more if you had to buy packages of several parts each.

10-19-2012, 10:41 PM	#110
danio Enlisted Member Drives: Honda S2000 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Thornhill Posts: 42 iTrader: (1)	is there any fix to the pedal wobble? I love the feel of the clutch and really don't want to put the "coilover" back in, but the wobble is driving me nuts!! I also have a 1cm or so of nothing before I can feel the pressure as someone else has stated above.

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