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      11-17-2009, 04:40 PM   #45
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The only problem I've noticed when running without the spring in there the cruise control sometimes will unengage itself or it won't engage at all because the pedal isn't completely back to stock position I guess is the best way to discribe it
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      02-20-2010, 10:00 PM   #46
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Sorry to bump an old thread. I have done this mod a while back and felt extremely satisfied with it. But a recent mod makes me bring this thread back.

I recently did this Clutch Stop mod from e92-lighting http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ht=clutch+stop , and I feel like putting the springs back to see if it makes any difference, other than decrease the lateral movements.

I have the old spring (1 big spring), should I just reinstall it or get the new updated spring?

Anyone with the clutch stop and springs?

Thanks guys!
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      03-22-2010, 01:50 PM   #47
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I installed the new spring "Part number: 35-00-6-769-442" this past weekend and like it very much. Pressure is consistent compared to the old spring. Clutch is softer and makes driving in traffic a bit easier.

Tried it without a either springs and didnt like the feel as much as the new spring.
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      03-22-2010, 08:47 PM   #48
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Thanks John@BMW for the part number.
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      05-31-2010, 11:06 AM   #49
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Just done this (replaced the original 2007 spring with the new version). Initial impressions are that the clutch is noticably lighter than before and feels more linear.

The install took me over half an hour. I eventually realised that the knack is to install the new spring with the clutch pedal depressed and the "}"-shaped rod that connects the two halves of the new spring in place.
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      06-24-2010, 02:59 AM   #50
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help please, so the post 09/2008 production cars came with TWO clutch springs? looks like one large and one smaller helper spring? what parts are needed? do i just need the new spring or do i need a new part 20, 21 from the diagram.

i wonder how the car feels w/ the post sept spring vs ZERO clutch spring. i have a 01/08 production car ;D
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      06-24-2010, 04:36 AM   #51
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i just realized something, Part number: 35-00-6-769-442 includes the new top and bottom pieces correct? it comes one complete set?
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      08-02-2010, 07:10 AM   #52
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Add another happy no-spring mod... the clutch really feels better without the spring. No more one-two step in clutch feel.
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      08-03-2010, 11:59 PM   #53
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Add another happy no-spring mod... the clutch really feels better without the spring. No more one-two step in clutch feel.
I've finally gotten the chance to replace the old one-spring setup with the new two-spring setup. I didn't try driving w/o any springs installed but could feel the linearity in the clutch after removing the spring. When I did get the two-spring setup installed and drove, the shifting felt very smooth and i felt a lot more competent shifting; especially when starting from 1st gear. I can even shift faster and smoother with ease. Before, I really had to pay attention to the one-two step of the one-spring setup and make sure the car didn't jerk at all. In addition to all the advice on this thread it helps to use a small mirror in order to see where to "poke" the e-clip out of the bolt that holds the clutch-spring setup in place. The e-clip is on the left-side which makes it difficult for anyone with even a small head see to what they're doing. That's why the mirror comes in handy.

No more one-two stepping. And, it was really starting to hurt my knee. I could feel my knee popping every so often. Thanks everyone.
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      08-04-2010, 12:03 AM   #54
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i just realized something, Part number: 35-00-6-769-442 includes the new top and bottom pieces correct? it comes one complete set?
Yes, one complete set. The new top and bottom pieces accommodate the two-spring setup.
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      08-04-2010, 12:39 AM   #55
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I've finally gotten the chance to replace the old one-spring setup with the new two-spring setup. I didn't try driving w/o any springs installed but could feel the linearity in the clutch after removing the spring. When I did get the two-spring setup installed and drove, the shifting felt very smooth and i felt a lot more competent shifting; especially when starting from 1st gear. I can even shift faster and smoother with ease. Before, I really had to pay attention to the one-two step of the one-spring setup and make sure the car didn't jerk at all. In addition to all the advice on this thread it helps to use a small mirror in order to see where to "poke" the e-clip out of the bolt that holds the clutch-spring setup in place. The e-clip is on the left-side which makes it difficult for anyone with even a small head see to what they're doing. That's why the mirror comes in handy.

No more one-two stepping. And, it was really starting to hurt my knee. I could feel my knee popping every so often. Thanks everyone.
do you prefer with the spring completely removed or with the new spring instead?

after having a heck of a time removing the old spring, i havent gotten around to installing the new spring. debating if i should though based on people's feedbacks.
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      08-04-2010, 04:22 AM   #56
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so are the springs from the 09/08 build (MY09) the new or old springs?
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      01-10-2011, 11:29 PM   #57
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this was well worth the ten mins.
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      01-10-2011, 11:37 PM   #58
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this was well worth the ten mins.
yep! was bored last week so i finally did it. one-two shift is much easier to shift smoothly.
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      02-03-2011, 08:01 PM   #59
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I'm bringing back this old thread because I wanted to know if anyone noticed any ill effects from the mod?

One person above mentioned their cruise control shuts off?! Please be candid, I want to do this mod, but not if it will cause any issues or give BMW a reason to deny a claim, like prematurely worn clutch or something.

With this spring, combined with the three different throttle position settings, I think its impossible to shift smoothly all the time. Kind of annoying! Still, after 1500 miles, I still think about my shifts - haven't done that in my other cars.
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      02-09-2011, 03:48 PM   #60
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      02-11-2011, 04:10 PM   #61
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have taken great interest to this post regarding clutch pedal spring removal. i myself driver an earlier E36 M3 Evolution a 1998 model. The overall looks of the spring look the same for all models

I was wondering would the spring removal benefit the E36 models also?
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      04-19-2011, 10:55 PM   #62
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How hard is it to replace the spring with the clips in the event I want to put it back?
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      05-19-2011, 01:00 PM   #63
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awesome!!

So glad I found this. I have a 335 so I never come to the M3 DIY section. Brought my car to the dealer back when it was under warranty for the clicking clutch... they told me it needed a new spring, and they claim to have ordered it. Waited about a month, then I got sick of the excuses and just dealt with it. Was always planning to poke around under there, never got to it.
When I saw this thread I ran out and did it in the rain this morning. THIS MAKES THE CLUTCH FEEL LIKE A REAL MT CAR AND FIXED THE CLICKING!! Wish I could take the POS spring and shove it up some retarded BMW engineer's a$$ (sorry no offense to anyone here who is actually retarded - and I know some are). THANKS FOR THIS GREAT TIP.
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      06-10-2011, 08:18 PM   #64
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Where are y'all getting the new spring assembly? Tishcer has a great price but kills it with 20 bucks worth of shipping and handling!
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      07-16-2011, 04:25 PM   #65
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did the removal today.

went to a mate's lift.... wasn't really needed. it took 5 Minutes and I somehow feel shifting is possible a bit quicker....

Thanks and thumbs up for that MOD !!!

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Where are y'all getting the new spring assembly? Tishcer has a great price but kills it with 20 bucks worth of shipping and handling!
I wound up getting it at my local dealer for the same price tischer listed with no crazy shipping fees.
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