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      12-23-2008, 11:32 PM   #89
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      12-23-2008, 11:42 PM   #90
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      12-23-2008, 11:44 PM   #91
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Price Please? ??
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      12-24-2008, 12:08 AM   #92
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i think this is a must if u have an M3.
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      12-24-2008, 12:09 AM   #93
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I don't know what to say, except, you don't have time to shift from 1st to 2nd to 3rd.
Nice thing about DCT is you can let the computer worry about shifting at redline if necessary.
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      12-24-2008, 12:11 AM   #94
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AA any day! If your looking for the best of the best, there is no question.

1. They are world renown for FI to BMW's with a proven track record over 3 generations of BMW M3's & before that other cars
2. They focus on making reliable power
3. Their work is as close to OEM as you can get. Very clean work.
4. Carl & the rest of the AA family are all class act professionals.

Way to go Active!


supercharger on the e46 M3
AA if you are in Miami I can see. VF if you are on the West Coast, go with who is local and can help you. It also helps to get things resolved (just in case) when you can actually show up in person.

I will reserve judgement until I see both kits completed with details. The VF kits for th E46 M3 are a bit better than the AA kits, IMO.
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      12-24-2008, 12:25 AM   #95
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Responding with speculation based on speculated "concerns" and then claiming that is the "proof" of the truth!
The best kind of uninformed ignorance their is. Good work.


As for hp claims, has AA made any yet? I would find it highly doubtful the s/c addition will make the M3 600 hp. As a pure guess I'm saying the s/c will add 6-7 psi and bring the hp up from 414 to around 515-525. **edit: I see AA has dynoed the car. Give up the details AA, nothing like possible Christmas pre-orders huh? Numbers please!**
That would take quite a bit of boost to make 600 hp. AA was the compression ratio lowered quite a bit for the s/c addition?

Any 1/4 mile testing yet? Times?

For the S54 it was roughly 20-25WHP per 1 psi, I would think the S65 would make 30WHP per 1 psi, so 7psi would yield approx 210 additional WHP, add race gas that will probably go up another 40WHP.
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      12-24-2008, 01:06 AM   #96
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Is this going to be the kind of kit an average "backyard mechanic" can bolt on themselves? Or is a professional installation going to be needed?
Not suggested for "backyard mechanics". As per a previous conversation with Active, this kit is more complex so being approved is required to sell/install the kit.

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I can't wait for the numbers!!!! It's going to be hard not to jump on the first kit that is released. I'd like to go with AA since I had their turbo kit for my e36 and it was bulletproof. Much respect!



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2-fer special???
Got 3 already. With both of you, it would be 5

Let's do this





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AA if you are in Miami I can see. VF if you are on the West Coast, go with who is local and can help you. It also helps to get things resolved (just in case) when you can actually show up in person.

I will reserve judgement until I see both kits completed with details. The VF kits for th E46 M3 are a bit better than the AA kits, IMO.

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The first kit on the West Coast will be installed by us at Auto Talent We will be providing technical support to the local region. So, feel comfortable that there is someplace near (Los Angeles area).

AA's expertise with superchargers/tuning throughout the years gives us confidence to say that this might be their best kit yet.
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      12-24-2008, 02:30 AM   #97
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Nice, really nice, would love to see someone jump in and buy the first kit.
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      12-24-2008, 02:54 AM   #98
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      12-24-2008, 06:33 AM   #99
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Love the blow off with the supercharger.

Is there a better pic of the FMIC?

Who will win the race to release, ESS, Active, or VF? We will have lots of tuning options. Where are the people who said the M3 can't be tuned now?
not saying it cant be tuned...anything can be tuned

the comparison was more for the sake of, bolt ons like i/e/chip vs. adding FI

having said that, clearly if you add FI to a beast of an engine like the M3 has, the results are special

The argument was more along the lines of, on a 335i (an already boosted car), gains can be had with much less funding/modification.

That doesnt take anything away from the M3, just a comparison as far as dollar per added power
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      12-24-2008, 07:13 AM   #100
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Who cares about dollar for dollar power? If anyone here really wanted dollar for dollar power they could've bought a small block chevy, done some work to it and blown every BMW away on a drag strip.

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Do you have anymore details why professional installation is suggested?
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      12-24-2008, 08:42 AM   #101
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I guess it's time 4 me to pull the trigger on a E92 ///M sometime in 09. BTW I am enjoying reading all the technical disscussion on this thread. Whether true or not.
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      12-24-2008, 09:47 AM   #102
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I guess it's time 4 me to pull the trigger on a E92 ///M sometime in 09. BTW I am enjoying reading all the technical disscussion on this thread. Whether true or not.
+1 and I was thinking about giving the lady the 335 and buying myself a 135. I might have to take a second look at those M3's
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      12-24-2008, 10:34 AM   #103
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Who cares about dollar for dollar power? If anyone here really wanted dollar for dollar power they could've bought a small block chevy, done some work to it and blown every BMW away on a drag strip.

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Was only referring to a comparison between two cars based on the same platform...I'm not hating on the M3, honestly I think its a very different animal than the 335 in the handling department...

but theres no question a 335 can have higher power numbers with less serious modding...bolt ons and a chip are very minor mods to be putting down the numbers 335's have been getting...

that being said, the m3 is faster to start, and will only be that much faster with a FI application

I was only saying that the comment referring to "M3's not being able to be tuned" was never a fair statement, certainly they can be, but it takes a bit more effort/serious mods to get to the ridiculous power gains...

which doesnt fault the m3, its just a fact of tuning NA cars vs FI cars

still would want an M3 for its balance, and if you tack on the FI its crazy fast...but without the FI, it takes a lot of effort to get 100HP gains
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      12-24-2008, 10:36 AM   #104
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so nice! We should do a full review
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      12-24-2008, 11:59 AM   #105
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Was only referring to a comparison between two cars based on the same platform...I'm not hating on the M3, honestly I think its a very different animal than the 335 in the handling department...

but theres no question a 335 can have higher power numbers with less serious modding...bolt ons and a chip are very minor mods to be putting down the numbers 335's have been getting...

that being said, the m3 is faster to start, and will only be that much faster with a FI application

I was only saying that the comment referring to "M3's not being able to be tuned" was never a fair statement, certainly they can be, but it takes a bit more effort/serious mods to get to the ridiculous power gains...

which doesnt fault the m3, its just a fact of tuning NA cars vs FI cars

still would want an M3 for its balance, and if you tack on the FI its crazy fast...but without the FI, it takes a lot of effort to get 100HP gains
Bang for the buck is not why people choose an M3.

There are far cheaper / better cars for power modding than the 335. A neon SRT-4 can spank the thing quite easily, takes a lot more effort to get the same amount of power from a 335. So what?

What is this need for stating the obvious? That forced induction cars can make cheap gains? Why aren't we all in supras?
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      12-24-2008, 12:14 PM   #106
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..but without the FI, it takes a lot of effort to get 100HP gains
Agreed. That's why I laugh at most of the people on here spending thousands of dollars on aftermarket bolt on stuff thinking their car is going to be any faster. If you want to make this car fast you need this kit from AA or an engine rebuild such as the stroker kit by RDSport.
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      12-24-2008, 12:26 PM   #107
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mmmm I want to see this kit on a stroker m3 motor.
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      12-24-2008, 12:27 PM   #108
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How did I miss this thread! I can't wait for this kit. Nice work as always AA
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      12-24-2008, 12:42 PM   #109
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mmmm I want to see this kit on a stroker m3 motor.
Why? Doesn't really make any sense.

Huge cost for little gain.

It is better to choose one or the other, not both.
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Agreed. That's why I laugh at most of the people on here spending thousands of dollars on aftermarket bolt on stuff thinking their car is going to be any faster. If you want to make this car fast you need this kit from AA or an engine rebuild such as the stroker kit by RDSport.
I have a 12.1 timeslip that disagrees with you. I am laughing that you would make such a statement without anything to support your claim.

You don't NEED a supercharger to improve the car's performance. You just NEED to know what you are doing and where you are spending your money.

I have not spent much on performance mods yet, and I have proof the car is significantly faster, not just my opinion.
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