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      12-08-2008, 03:22 PM   #1
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M3 vs GTR in another spec

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=137346

Woah! two major price changes in under a year!

No LC next year too, wtf!

The GTR is a faster car but worth 20k+ more? No way.
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      12-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #2
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Ugh, another price increase.

In the article they say "boost margins". I would call that spinning. I'd be willing to bet it is "cut losses" to be perfectly honest. I posted a quick "back of the envelope" calculation long ago here that showed the GT-R was likely losing money on every car sold at the initial price. These multiple and large price increases are indications I was correct.
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      12-08-2008, 04:27 PM   #3
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I'd take an M3 over that ANY day. Nissan can keep the 20k extra.
Who cares about a few tenths of a second faster?
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      12-08-2008, 04:49 PM   #4
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I think edmunds tested out the GTR without LC and it did 0-60 in 4.3. Sorry guys but this can no longer b considered a supercar, being that its only about .3 tenths of a sec quicker then the M3 im willing to bet with a few good mods and chip then M3 will keep up easily.
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      12-08-2008, 05:17 PM   #5
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93 k wow, a bit pricey
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      12-08-2008, 07:31 PM   #6
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Everyday Nissan comes closer and closer to reality. So that puts the v-spec GTR in the 150k range?
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      12-08-2008, 07:42 PM   #7
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Wow, no LC, $90k (over $68k initially), what a joke this is turning into.
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      12-08-2008, 07:50 PM   #8
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$93k.. now we're getting into GT3 territory, and there is no way I would take a GTR over a GT3.
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      12-08-2008, 09:23 PM   #9
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I still think it's ugly!
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Wow that is pricey. Makes the 09 ones, which on still on eBay seems like a deal.
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      12-09-2008, 01:35 AM   #11
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Another ugly, overpriced, Japanese piece of junk. The M3 is art in motion.
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It's still just a Nissan, no heritage there!
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I think edmunds tested out the GTR without LC and it did 0-60 in 4.3. Sorry guys but this can no longer b considered a supercar, being that its only about .3 tenths of a sec quicker then the M3 im willing to bet with a few good mods and chip then M3 will keep up easily.
Pretty sure I have seen better for the GT-R without LC. Either way to 100 or in the 1/4 with or without LC it will tromp the M3. However, the M3 definitely has done better. Its best to 60 has been 4.1 and average is about 4.4. Have a look here at this useful performance "database" for the M3.
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      12-09-2008, 05:51 AM   #14
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$93k.. now we're getting into GT3 territory, and there is no way I would take a GTR over a GT3.
GT3 territory? That is barely used 997 GT3 territory.
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      12-09-2008, 05:54 AM   #15
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That price does not really apply, it is a converted number from Japanese currency.

Regardless, the GTR is growing on me. Ugh, I need a supercharger.
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Pretty sure I have seen better for the GT-R without LC. Either way to 100 or in the 1/4 with or without LC it will tromp the M3. However, the M3 definitely has done better. Its best to 60 has been 4.1 and average is about 4.4. Have a look here at this useful performance "database" for the M3.
I thought the only 4.1s times for the M3 were with roll out. The 4.3s time for the GTR was without LC and roll out.
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      12-09-2008, 09:21 AM   #17
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man these posts on here are why so many ppl rag on bmw owners, sound like insecure cocks
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      12-09-2008, 10:52 AM   #18
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man these posts on here are why so many ppl rag on bmw owners, sound like insecure cocks
It lets them feel good about themselves owning a BMW; more so because of a nice little "M" badge.

Let's see these people engineer a better car than Nissan, rather than buy one that is subjectively better; which any idiot can do

The GTR may be ugly but it's faster than a lot of cars out there even without LC. Which was kinda its point to begin with. I would rather have an M3 but even then I would be b*tching about a lot of things about my car.
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      12-09-2008, 11:27 AM   #19
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It's still just a Nissan, no heritage there!
it does have a heratige, just not as prestigeous as the M brand, but a huge cult following none the less and always better performance numbers.
always electronics ahead of it's time.

just never a fan of the styling, but no one can debate the performance.
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      12-09-2008, 11:54 AM   #20
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Sounds like the folks who bought the initial GTR batches at MSRP made a good investment...
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Sounds like the folks who bought the initial GTR batches at MSRP made a good investment...
Definately. Still quite a few 09's available on eBay and at dealers for near current MSRP. Anyone's who looking, might be a good time.
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lucid, especially if you aren't ever going to launch it.
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