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      12-01-2008, 02:35 PM   #67
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      12-01-2008, 02:46 PM   #68
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      12-01-2008, 03:45 PM   #69
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Am I the only one who isn't turned off by the Lexus's looks, especially in dark colours and those beautiful alloys.

Can't say I am a fan of the interior, too plain and similar to the lesser models (says someone driving an M3, itself little different to the other 3 series inside).
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      12-01-2008, 04:07 PM   #70
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Am I the only one who isn't turned off by the Lexus's looks, especially in dark colours and those beautiful alloys.

Can't say I am a fan of the interior, too plain and similar to the lesser models (says someone driving an M3, itself little different to the other 3 series inside).
Hence the extended leather and fiber trim... The interior does need some work.
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      12-01-2008, 04:39 PM   #71
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Their responses were all very level headed.
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      12-01-2008, 06:26 PM   #72
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Apart from the RS4 time, all of the others are there on the TOPGEAR website. Could it be quicker than an old model Gallardo, it is possible but compared to the stock Viper yes I completely believe the M3 would be quicker, this is a course with a few tight corners which would hinder the big viper.

Also worth noting is the E90 M3 is 6.5s quicker than the old E46 M3. Now that is what I call progress. But so was the old Audi S4 which was a surprise to me.
Also worth noting is that White Stig seems much quicker than Black Stig.
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      12-01-2008, 06:33 PM   #73
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The Viper they tested was the 2004 SRT10 roadster, which handled a lot worse and made a lot less power than the current SRT10 coupe, let alone the ACR.

What I liked seeing is that the M3 is a second faster than the 997 S.
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      12-01-2008, 08:17 PM   #74
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the e90 has more structural rigidity than the e92 due to the B pillars
thats actually incorrect, and this misconception seems to have stemmed back from the e36 m3 days when the sedan body was indeed stiffer than the coupe. The e92 body is slightly stiffer (and slightly more aerodynamic) than the e90 as confirmed by the e92 launch press material from bmw, and a Q&A session with m engineers i watched at the time of the e92 m3 launch.
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      12-01-2008, 11:27 PM   #76
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the e90 has more structural rigidity than the e92 due to the B pillars
the E92 also has B pillars. all things equal, a B-pillar-ed coupe would be more rigid than a sedan as there would be an additional sheet of metal (at least in the lower part) welded or as a continuing piece where the rear door in a 4-door sedan is.
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      12-01-2008, 11:46 PM   #77
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Their responses were all very level headed.
yeah, we need to bring some of those guys over here
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      12-02-2008, 12:04 AM   #78
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great vid, thanks for sharing! M3
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It's back on youtube!! Just watched it. I never even considered the IS-F...plus I already heard bout the quad exhaust tips on it being non-functional and fake. Lame I say. The merc...crazy power I give it that. I'm glad i got my M3!!!!!
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i LOLed at the part when Jeremy was bashing the 8speed transmission of the ISF, especially the part wherein he was imitating the sounds lol
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      12-02-2008, 11:13 AM   #81
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      12-02-2008, 11:21 AM   #82
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Also worth noting is that White Stig seems much quicker than Black Stig.
Well if nothing else it confirms that these two Stigs aren't one in the same person.

Also worth noting, the Stig's build changes from week to week, I have noticed sometime he looks taller or better built at time.
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      12-02-2008, 11:47 AM   #83
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Sedan vs sedan, IMO, the c63 amg exterior/interior are hideous (the rear is butt chrysler), except the seats are nice.

M3, decent looking with the best all around performance

IS-F, best looking in the group and nice interior (I know exaust are fake, side vent could be better), but it still looks better than m3 and C63 AMG. If the m3 sedan butt was nicer, then it would win in the look department.
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      12-02-2008, 11:57 AM   #84
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[u2b]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2gV0Q-gh8Yw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2gV0Q-gh8Yw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/u2b]

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thats actually incorrect, and this misconception seems to have stemmed back from the e36 m3 days when the sedan body was indeed stiffer than the coupe. The e92 body is slightly stiffer (and slightly more aerodynamic) than the e90 as confirmed by the e92 launch press material from bmw, and a Q&A session with m engineers i watched at the time of the e92 m3 launch.
And why is the E90 M3 slightly faster around the track then(Tsukuba). E90 is more rigid and chassis more absorbing, You have a CF roof, we have the slightly faster car.

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i freakin agree with him! F! AMG... shit is wack
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If the m3 sedan butt was nicer, then it would win in the look department.
That's why you buy the coupe and you don't have that problem anymore!
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And why is the E90 M3 slightly faster around the track then(Tsukuba). E90 is more rigid and chassis more absorbing, You have a CF roof, we have the slightly faster car.

if its more rigid it can't be more absorbing

it is more absorbing , cuz its not as stiff as the coupe
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