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      11-24-2008, 03:57 PM   #23
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I'm sorry if this has been discussed, but why did we get such awful looking calipers for a high performance car costing +60K? I would figure BMW would have at least put on Brembo 6 piston calipers! The car is otherwise gorgeous in every way and then we have to look at these generic looking calpiers. Bleh!

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And no I don't want to spend $$$ on new ones, when they should have had them from the begining.
Dont be blinded by the Bling-Bling of Brembo. the stock brake does a fine job on the tracks of Performance Center, plus it incorporates the BMW brake wiping technology.

Im sure if you change those with Brembos it throws that technology out the door. Anyone?
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      11-24-2008, 04:23 PM   #24
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at the very least, they should paint the caliper black and put m logo on it.
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      11-24-2008, 04:29 PM   #25
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at the very least, they should paint the caliper black and put m logo on it.
They come painted black stock.
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like to have a nice chrome letters MotorSport on it too!

ie like the Corvettes!
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      11-24-2008, 10:45 PM   #27
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Here's your solution (decals):
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      11-24-2008, 10:51 PM   #28
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Here's your solution (decals):
Only enthusiasts will notice, then after they look at the decal they'll see how unimpressive the caliper looks. Not saying they don't work fine on the street, but I wouldn't want to call attention to them. The rotors are really nice, though!
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      11-24-2008, 10:54 PM   #29
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And these particular Brembos on low end cars are just as low end as the car itself. These may look good but that is all they do. They are nowhere near a typical aftermarket Brembo BBK. They are poseur brakes clear and simple. They are all about looks and nothing else. Take for example the 350Z - the brakes fade like crazy and don't have good stopping distance.
I never had a problem with my stock 350Z brembos? They never faded under track conditions.... actually felt better than my M's
. I dont like the M's initial bite, the Brembos have a nice linear feel> Hell I already had my M breaks fade on me...
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Here's the thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186455
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Here's your solution (decals):
that looks great!!!
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the stock brake does a fine job on the tracks of Performance Center, plus it incorporates the BMW brake wiping technology.
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Actually, no. BMW decided that wiping and other soccer-mom functions could be left off the M3, so they are not included.
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      11-25-2008, 02:11 AM   #34
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I never had a problem with my stock 350Z brembos? They never faded under track conditions.... actually felt better than my M's
. I dont like the M's initial bite, the Brembos have a nice linear feel> Hell I already had my M breaks fade on me...
Maybe it is only an issue with the Nismo version of the 350Z. Car and Driver documented the extreme fade of that Brembo system carefully. It was the only vehicle that went off the charts - literally - and that is not off in a good way.

The article and this entire debate is discussed pretty well here (the link the to C&D article is there as well).
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This was discussed and pounded for several times. The OEM with less piston is better than the G35 Brembo brakes, as tested. It is not the number of pistons but the cooling efficiency and the brake pads.
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Dont be blinded by the Bling-Bling of Brembo. the stock brake does a fine job on the tracks of Performance Center, plus it incorporates the BMW brake wiping technology.

Im sure if you change those with Brembos it throws that technology out the door. Anyone?

I don't think anyone is complainin about the rotor size. I do think it's about time BMW went to a fixed caliper in the M cars. It's just wrong to have a sliding caliper in a $65k car, even if it works just fine.
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yeah, bmw please man up and put a bbk in all M models. It is just getting ridiculous.
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      11-26-2008, 10:11 AM   #38
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I was on track (Silverstone Grand Prix circuit in the UK) yesterday with the guys at Drivers Republic..... after 4 hard laps their E90 M3 brakes were fading badly (they had sports pads fitted a few days before). I'm a little surprised at how quickly fade set in although Silverstone is a long track.....
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Actually, no. BMW decided that wiping and other soccer-mom functions could be left off the M3, so they are not included.
They still have that annoying "hill assist" or whatever it's called where it holds the brakes for you when on an incline for like 2 seconds. I hate it and this is definitely soccer-mom brake functionality!
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They still have that annoying "hill assist" or whatever it's called where it holds the brakes for you when on an incline for like 2 seconds. I hate it and this is definitely soccer-mom brake functionality!
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