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      11-20-2008, 10:56 AM   #1
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Exclamation Official Recall Notice for DCT Owners

Sorry if this is a repost, I searched and didn't find it. DCT owners can call your dealers now and get this done ASAP. (or should)

Report Date : November 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM
NHTSA Campaign ID number : 08V595000


Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
BMW / M3 2008-2009

Manufacturer: BMW OF NORTH AMERICA, LLC
Mfr's Report Date: OCT 30, 2008
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 08V595000
NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: POWER TRAIN:CLUTCH ASSEMBLY
Potential Number of Units Affected: 2500
Summary:
BMW IS RECALLING 2,500 MY 2008-2009 M3 PASSENGER VEHICLES WITH AN OPTIONAL DOUBLE CLUTCH TRANSMISSION. THE PROBLEM INVOLVES THE DOUBLE CLUTCH GEARBOX. IN A SITUATION OF RAPID VEHICLE DECELERATION, THE TRANSMISSION SOFTWARE MAY PERFORM A MULTISTAGE DOWNSHIFT.

Consequence:
IN THAT SITUATION, AT LOW VEHICLE SPEEDS, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE ENGINE TO STALL INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPROGRAM THE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT WITH UPDATED SOFTWARE FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING NOVEMBER 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BMW AT 1-800-831-1117.

Notes:
CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.

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Actual Link
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls...e&refurl=email
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      11-20-2008, 11:06 AM   #2
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wow.....including 2009s? Thanks for the heads up.
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      11-20-2008, 11:15 AM   #3
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Mine is working just fine... I may have to have it check during my 1200 service then

thks for the heads up
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      11-20-2008, 11:22 AM   #4
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update from bMWNA:

this affected build dates up to Sept 10, 2008.

I miss it by 2 days

so mine is aiyth!



let the good times continue grrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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      11-20-2008, 11:25 AM   #5
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"BMW IS RECALLING 2,500 MY 2008-2009..."

Is this all DCT cars perhaps??? How many DCT M3s could BMW have made so far?
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      11-20-2008, 11:26 AM   #6
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Is this all DCT cars perhaps???
No CMOS... see my earlier post no. 4
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      11-20-2008, 11:32 AM   #7
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I just called my SA and he said mine is not affected.
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      11-20-2008, 11:33 AM   #8
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When BMW comes out with the service recall bulletin it will show which VINs are affected. You will also most likely get a letter as well from BMW NA about the recall.

The 1st post is not an official BMW bulletin but from the NHTSA website.
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      11-20-2008, 11:43 AM   #9
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Only a few are affected
M3 DCTs with certain Build dates only
inclusive dates of manufacture for both 08 nd 09s are
Nov 28, 2007 to Sep 10 2008

Kudos to e90mdrei

Official BMW Letter to NHTSA enclosed
with the sample letter that will be send out to affect DCT owners
total hrs of labor 4.0 hrs charges FREE

BMWNA recommends to wear seat belts and avoid sudden deceleration to affected DCT owners, while waiting for completion of notification by BMW on Nov 08


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      11-20-2008, 11:58 AM   #10
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Anyone know if this is just an "official" recall related to the recent DCT software update or if this is a NEW software update? I find it interesting because I've been recently having the exact symptoms described (multistage downshifting during rapid deceleration which results in some serious jerkiness but minus the complete stall) and I've already had the software update performed.
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      11-20-2008, 12:01 PM   #11
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As the driver of a 2009 M3 with M-DCT produced after Sept. 10, I am not part of the recall. I can tell you how the transmission will behave afterward, however.

There is a new issue as a result of this "fix". When accellerating from a slow speed after slowing from a higher speed (think street corner), the car may hesitate abnormally long before engaging a gear when driven in auto mode. This is very unnerving when pulling into traffic. I don't think it is a problem when driving in manual mode.

I understand another fix is in the pipeline to cure this secondary issue.
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      11-20-2008, 12:07 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiation Joe View Post
As the driver of a 2009 M3 with M-DCT produced after Sept. 10, I am not part of the recall. I can tell you how the transmission will behave afterward, however.

There is a new issue as a result of this "fix". When accellerating from a slow speed after slowing from a higher speed (think street corner), the car may hesitate abnormally long before engaging a gear when driven in auto mode. This is very unnerving when pulling into traffic. I don't think it is a problem when driving in manual mode.

I understand another fix is in the pipeline to cure this secondary issue.
R-Joe,

So any problems with the 2009 M3 w/DCT? All good with your setup...?
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      11-20-2008, 12:07 PM   #13
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Quote:
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As the driver of a 2009 M3 with M-DCT produced after Sept. 10, I am not part of the recall. I can tell you how the transmission will behave afterward, however.

There is a new issue as a result of this "fix". When accellerating from a slow speed after slowing from a higher speed (think street corner), the car may hesitate abnormally long before engaging a gear when driven in auto mode. This is very unnerving when pulling into traffic. I don't think it is a problem when driving in manual mode.

I understand another fix is in the pipeline to cure this secondary issue.
Yeah, that's the primary issue I have right now. But I've also run into this "rapid decelaration" shifting issue that somewhat freaked me out going INTO a corner. What I have been able to figure out by reading these boards is that all of the issues with the latest software seem to be most exacerbated when in D3 or D2 (not sure about D1). I've been using D4 lately and it doesn't seem to be as impared. Also, the S modes seem to be fine for the most part.
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      11-20-2008, 12:35 PM   #14
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Sorry to hear about the first official DCT recall.

One of the reasons I did not want to get the first generation DCT...
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      11-20-2008, 12:49 PM   #15
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Hmmm... just did a check and it may seem that the NHTSA statement is similar to the DCT programming update that BMW made a bulletin on a month ago. Perhaps there could be a new bulletin.
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      11-20-2008, 01:02 PM   #16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiation Joe View Post
As the driver of a 2009 M3 with M-DCT produced after Sept. 10, I am not part of the recall. I can tell you how the transmission will behave afterward, however.

There is a new issue as a result of this "fix". When accellerating from a slow speed after slowing from a higher speed (think street corner), the car may hesitate abnormally long before engaging a gear when driven in auto mode. This is very unnerving when pulling into traffic. I don't think it is a problem when driving in manual mode.

I understand another fix is in the pipeline to cure this secondary issue.
I agree with this post... I experience the same issue on my late Sept build 09 and it is totally unnerving and annoying. No reason for this at all... I hope a fix is forthcoming.
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      11-20-2008, 01:05 PM   #17
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This is old news, but now I guess it's an official recall. Maybe dealers will listen to me now when I say there's a sw update. Those bitches.
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      11-20-2008, 03:12 PM   #18
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No big deal. A little software patch & everything will be fine.
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      11-20-2008, 03:21 PM   #19
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wait is this brand new effective today or something?? wasn't there a recall for update in oct??
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      11-20-2008, 03:29 PM   #20
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Interesting that they finally issued a recall. I hope no one was injured by the stalling issue in the meantime. Unfortunately, as noted above, there's still the hesitation issue in D mode and that's just as likely to cause an accident. Hopefully its fixed soon, too.

So, now we know the cutoff date was September 10th. I suppose this means that there were roughly 2500 US spec M-DCT M3's made from start of production through that date.
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      11-20-2008, 03:47 PM   #22
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so this is a different recall from the one in october???
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