DIY: Let's Change the Engine Oil - Page 8

1cleanm3 · 12-25-2010, 03:34 PM

Thanks to the OP for this wonderful thread!

I got my oil replaced yesterday and the M drives so much smoother.

I got an awesome deal at the dealer 135 for 9 quarts and the filter.

GregW / Oregon · 12-25-2010, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cleanm3

Thanks to the OP for this wonderful thread!

I got my oil replaced yesterday and the M drives so much smoother.

I got an awesome deal at the dealer 135 for 9 quarts and the filter.

That is a good price - like $15 for labor.

jaybird124 · 12-29-2010, 10:12 PM

great DIY with pics to boot

dbacon · 02-27-2011, 04:50 PM

Those using MityVacs or other extractors to remove oil rather than drain it from below...do the extractors remove nearly all of the oil? I just want to make sure you can maneuver the hose to the bottom most part of the pan in order to grab more of the particles (if any) and evacuate most of the oil.

Thanks,

db

GregW / Oregon · 02-27-2011, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbacon

Those using MityVacs or other extractors to remove oil rather than drain it from below...do the extractors remove nearly all of the oil? I just want to make sure you can maneuver the hose to the bottom most part of the pan in order to grab more of the particles (if any) and evacuate most of the oil.

Not sure where you're going to insert it, since there is no dipstick opening. Fill opening or oil filter will not work. Nope, BMW has "improved" the design.

dbacon · 02-27-2011, 09:52 PM

I was imagining going through the same opening where the oil gets poured in. Based on your response...I'm guessing that wouldn't work. Time to invest in ramps, a jack and jack stands instead.

elp_jc · 02-28-2011, 03:39 AM

No way to suck it on this car, but you don't want to do that anyway man. You want to drain the oil from the bottom WARM, so the bottom of the pan doesn't start developing sludge, which is exactly what would happen if you were to suck it from above over time.

LiM3y · 03-28-2011, 08:46 AM

Just a heads up that you can buy the copper seal washers as a separate item, rather than as part of the filter kit. 55 cents.

I bought some spare drain plugs today (my originals look like they were over torqued one time and the hex hole is losing its shape/integrity, so I bought spares just in case)

Templar · 04-04-2011, 09:03 AM

^^ post count bump?

Anyway, I am sitting at 4903 miles right now and planning on doing an oil change soon. I want to do it myself, but I don't have access to a garage or anything

I also don't have ramps either! I'm stuck right now

Might drive it home (I'm stationed in VA so I live in an apartment) and my dad and me will give it a shot. Seems pretty easy to do here. Thanks for the great writeup and thread! I just can't justify paying the stealership so much for a mid point oil change, but I also don't want to wait another 10000 miles, something just doesn't seem right about that. I've always done it 3000-5000 miles on my other cars and have had great luck with great running engines.

TX · 04-09-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTROIS

Great post Greg! I just had it done at the dealer for about $180 (includes oil, filter, etc, ...) so this DIY is definitely great info... but it just sucks that I do not have a garage do this myself!

180 is a darn good price at a dealer considering the parts alone are $140. 40bucks for labor, it might be worth it. Although I would feel better that it was done correctly doing itmyself. I always wonder if the dealer drains all the oil, or even does an oil change at all since we have no dipstick to check the color of the oil and I have no way of watching the work they do. I've caught dealers in the past cutting corners.

L4ces · 04-17-2011, 12:07 PM

Good Day all, we have little sunshine in the Portland, Or! Anyway, I am planning to change my oil today. Although I have changed oil in numerous vehicles (have a wife and kids with cars), I still felt the need to read this carefully. I really appreciate the time you guys put in to contribute.

Anyway, a few weeks ago I came across this oil drain plug from Turner Motorsport while searching online for the TSW. I didn't purchase it, no reason but I will inquire if it fits the M3.

"Turn your oil drain plug into an effective metal particle filter! This drain plug fits virtually all BMWs, and has a SUPER strong magnet built into it's tip, trapping iron and steel contaminants and safely removing them from the circulation.

This is a must for ALL BMWs, and simply installs in place of your existing drain plug. With every oil change you perform on your BMW, you'll be able to inspect for metal shavings and debris. Many times, if something is going wrong on your BMW's engine, the drain plug can give you an early warning."

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-17...most-bmws.aspx

GregW / Oregon · 04-17-2011, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L4ces

Good Day all, we have little sunshine in the Portland, Or! Anyway, I am planning to change my oil today. Although I have changed oil in numerous vehicles (have a wife and kids with cars), I still felt the need to read this carefully. I really appreciate the time you guys put in to contribute.

Anyway, a few weeks ago I came across this oil drain plug from Turner Motorsport while searching online for the TSW. I didn't purchase it, no reason but I will inquire if it fits the M3.

If you enter your M3 in the popdown on the website it says it does not fit.

L4ces · 04-17-2011, 01:18 PM

Thanks for checking and confirming Greg.

L4ces · 04-17-2011, 05:23 PM

Hmmm, the new oil filter is much smaller than the one the dealer used. Perhaps the size might vary a bit, but my suspicion is that I have the wrong filter. The new one is a Mann HU 816. Checking on this now.

elp_jc · 04-17-2011, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L4ces

"Turn your oil drain plug into an effective metal particle filter!

Always a good idea indeed, but right away knew that bolt was way too big for our car. You got me excited for a bit

.

L4ces · 04-17-2011, 06:14 PM

A local shop looked up the MANN replacement and came up with part# HU 9265Z, instead of the HU 816 I received so I do have the wrong filter. I am hosed for the day unless someone in the Portland vicinity has one on hand that I can buy.

elp_jc I got excited to as I was searching for the correct oil filter. ECS advertised a Magnetic Drain plug for all e9xs however, they don't explicitly mention the M3. So :-(

Here's the link in case I am wrong... careful, no mention of M3.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...+oil+filter%22

L4ces · 04-17-2011, 06:47 PM

Darnnit, I won't be so anal.

Although I hate to do this, but I'll put the old oil filter in and pick one up tomorrow and replace it. It won't do the car any harm if in for a days drive to work. I have a service change coming up in about 5k miles as well. This isn't that bad is it?

montreal red · 04-18-2011, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L4ces

Darnnit, I won't be so anal.

Although I hate to do this, but I'll put the old oil filter in and pick one up tomorrow and replace it. It won't do the car any harm if in for a days drive to work. I have a service change coming up in about 5k miles as well. This isn't that bad is it?

you should be fine driving with the old filter for a day or two. Dont sweat it. The way i look at it, youre already doing your engine a huge favor by not sticking to bmw's retarded oil change schedule.

LiM3y · 04-18-2011, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L4ces

Darnnit, I won't be so anal.

Although I hate to do this, but I'll put the old oil filter in and pick one up tomorrow and replace it. It won't do the car any harm if in for a days drive to work. I have a service change coming up in about 5k miles as well. This isn't that bad is it?

The filter will still filter, whereas the oil degrades...or not...depending on how you feel about the maintenance schedule.

L4ces · 04-18-2011, 11:48 PM

Montreal Red, LiM3y this simple job is complete.
I changed the filter today and am good to go.

Thanks for the feedback.

dbacon · 04-27-2011, 01:26 PM

After only having the dealer change the oil over the first 35k miles...I decided to give it a try. Noticed two annoying things...

1. The bolt on the rear sump was nearly stripped...so chances are the dealer over torque one or more times.

2. The bolt on the front sump was immaculate...which led me to believe my dealer didn't ever bother draining the front sump.

Since I didn't have the greatest experience with the 6mm allen hex bit during my DIY oil change...I went searching for alternative oil drain plugs...hoping to find a magnetic one that wasn't an allen hex. I too noticed Turner had something of the sort but it didn't fit my 08. Ultimately, I did find one though. It's been purchased but not installed at this point.

http://www.bavauto.com/ - search for "Magnetic Oil Drain Plug"

elp_jc · 04-27-2011, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbacon

http://www.bavauto.com/ - search for "Magnetic Oil Drain Plug"

The second one seems the right size. But that head is big man. Make sure it doesn't stick out of the protective skid plate; you DO NOT want it hitting something on the road first.

By the way, the best way to loosen a stubborn bolt is with impact, like hitting the ratchet with your palm, rather than exerting ever increasing force. The 6mm allen bolt is plenty strong, but not if you tighten it to hell. Oh, and don't forget to coat the oil cap's gasket with a film of oil, so it doesn't bunch up when turned. I'm also doing all my maintenance; better pay for fluids and filters than letting dealer touch my car. Good luck, and please keep us posted if the magnetic plug's head doesn't protrude past the skid plate. Thanks.

12-25-2010, 03:34 PM	#155
1cleanm3 Brigadier General Drives: ///E92M3RR SportPrius Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the 818 Posts: 3,505 iTrader: (7)	Thanks to the OP for this wonderful thread! I got my oil replaced yesterday and the M drives so much smoother. I got an awesome deal at the dealer 135 for 9 quarts and the filter. __________________ HRE + CHALLENGE + KW V3 + GINTANI + ARKYM + YOKOHAMA AD08

12-29-2010, 10:12 PM	#157
jaybird124 Captain Drives: '09 335d Sport Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 815 iTrader: (0)	great DIY with pics to boot __________________ '09 335d Alpine White/Beige Dakota, Sport, Premium, Cold Weather, iDrive, PDC, CA, iPod, Premium Sound Retired: '93 325i \|'99 Jeep Wrangler Sport \|'06 330i Sport \|'08 335i Sport \|'08 328i Sport

02-27-2011, 04:50 PM	#158
dbacon Private Drives: 08 E92 Space Grey / Fox Red Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Westlake Village, CA Posts: 79 iTrader: (0)	Those using MityVacs or other extractors to remove oil rather than drain it from below...do the extractors remove nearly all of the oil? I just want to make sure you can maneuver the hose to the bottom most part of the pan in order to grab more of the particles (if any) and evacuate most of the oil. Thanks, db Last edited by dbacon; 02-27-2011 at 05:08 PM.

03-28-2011, 08:46 AM	#162
LiM3y Major Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CT Posts: 1,020 iTrader: (2)	Copper seals available separately from filter kit Just a heads up that you can buy the copper seal washers as a separate item, rather than as part of the filter kit. 55 cents. I bought some spare drain plugs today (my originals look like they were over torqued one time and the hex hole is losing its shape/integrity, so I bought spares just in case)

04-04-2011, 09:03 AM	#163
Templar Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,698 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [5.00]	^^ post count bump? Anyway, I am sitting at 4903 miles right now and planning on doing an oil change soon. I want to do it myself, but I don't have access to a garage or anything I also don't have ramps either! I'm stuck right now Might drive it home (I'm stationed in VA so I live in an apartment) and my dad and me will give it a shot. Seems pretty easy to do here. Thanks for the great writeup and thread! I just can't justify paying the stealership so much for a mid point oil change, but I also don't want to wait another 10000 miles, something just doesn't seem right about that. I've always done it 3000-5000 miles on my other cars and have had great luck with great running engines. __________________ '11 BMW E92 ///M3 - ZCP and DCT '11 Ford F-150 XLT - Supercrew, 4x4, Ecoboost V6, Chrome/Convenience Package, Tow Package

02-27-2011, 09:52 PM	#160
dbacon Private Drives: 08 E92 Space Grey / Fox Red Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Westlake Village, CA Posts: 79 iTrader: (0)	I was imagining going through the same opening where the oil gets poured in. Based on your response...I'm guessing that wouldn't work. Time to invest in ramps, a jack and jack stands instead.

02-28-2011, 03:39 AM	#161
elp_jc Brigadier General Drives: . Join Date: May 2008 Location: . Posts: 4,912 iTrader: (0)	No way to suck it on this car, but you don't want to do that anyway man. You want to drain the oil from the bottom WARM, so the bottom of the pan doesn't start developing sludge, which is exactly what would happen if you were to suck it from above over time.

04-17-2011, 12:07 PM	#165
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 449 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Good Day all, we have little sunshine in the Portland, Or! Anyway, I am planning to change my oil today. Although I have changed oil in numerous vehicles (have a wife and kids with cars), I still felt the need to read this carefully. I really appreciate the time you guys put in to contribute. Anyway, a few weeks ago I came across this oil drain plug from Turner Motorsport while searching online for the TSW. I didn't purchase it, no reason but I will inquire if it fits the M3. "Turn your oil drain plug into an effective metal particle filter! This drain plug fits virtually all BMWs, and has a SUPER strong magnet built into it's tip, trapping iron and steel contaminants and safely removing them from the circulation. This is a must for ALL BMWs, and simply installs in place of your existing drain plug. With every oil change you perform on your BMW, you'll be able to inspect for metal shavings and debris. Many times, if something is going wrong on your BMW's engine, the drain plug can give you an early warning." http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-17...most-bmws.aspx

04-17-2011, 01:18 PM	#167
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 449 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Thanks for checking and confirming Greg.

04-17-2011, 05:23 PM	#168
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 449 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Hmmm, the new oil filter is much smaller than the one the dealer used. Perhaps the size might vary a bit, but my suspicion is that I have the wrong filter. The new one is a Mann HU 816. Checking on this now.

04-17-2011, 06:14 PM	#170
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 449 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	A local shop looked up the MANN replacement and came up with part# HU 9265Z, instead of the HU 816 I received so I do have the wrong filter. I am hosed for the day unless someone in the Portland vicinity has one on hand that I can buy. elp_jc I got excited to as I was searching for the correct oil filter. ECS advertised a Magnetic Drain plug for all e9xs however, they don't explicitly mention the M3. So :-( Here's the link in case I am wrong... careful, no mention of M3. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...+oil+filter%22

04-17-2011, 06:47 PM	#171
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 449 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Darnnit, I won't be so anal. Although I hate to do this, but I'll put the old oil filter in and pick one up tomorrow and replace it. It won't do the car any harm if in for a days drive to work. I have a service change coming up in about 5k miles as well. This isn't that bad is it?

04-18-2011, 11:48 PM	#174
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 449 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Montreal Red, LiM3y this simple job is complete. I changed the filter today and am good to go. Thanks for the feedback.

04-27-2011, 01:26 PM	#175
dbacon Private Drives: 08 E92 Space Grey / Fox Red Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Westlake Village, CA Posts: 79 iTrader: (0)	After only having the dealer change the oil over the first 35k miles...I decided to give it a try. Noticed two annoying things... 1. The bolt on the rear sump was nearly stripped...so chances are the dealer over torque one or more times. 2. The bolt on the front sump was immaculate...which led me to believe my dealer didn't ever bother draining the front sump. Since I didn't have the greatest experience with the 6mm allen hex bit during my DIY oil change...I went searching for alternative oil drain plugs...hoping to find a magnetic one that wasn't an allen hex. I too noticed Turner had something of the sort but it didn't fit my 08. Ultimately, I did find one though. It's been purchased but not installed at this point. http://www.bavauto.com/ - search for "Magnetic Oil Drain Plug" Last edited by dbacon; 04-27-2011 at 03:30 PM.

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