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      11-20-2008, 12:27 AM   #89
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Gonna get the storm from Telus as soon as its coming out. i just renewed my contract a little while ago when i got my curve so ill be paying full price for it
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      11-20-2008, 06:23 AM   #90
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You'll want to take this video for what it's worth. If you think back to my BlackBerry Bold vs. Iphone 3G Web Browser Speed Comparison you'll remember I was all about the scientific process. Not the case here. I had less than twenty minutes to get this done before I had to board the plane, so it was quick and dirty. Consider it a Real World test.

I had time to visit four sites: NYtimes.com, WSJ.com, CrackBerry.com and ArsTechnica.com. It turned out the guy sitting next to me works for Ars Technica and was flying home, so suffice to say he was pretty interested in this little smartphone battle that was being recorded for all to see.

Default Settings: It is important to note that the iPhone 3G by default has JavaScript Support enabled, while the BlackBerry Storm ships with Javascript support disabled (you can go into your browser options and choose to enable it). RIM is still working on optimizing their web browser Javascript support and isn't quite with where they want to be just yet, hence why this setting is disabled for the time being. For day to day normal website browsing, leaving JS support disabled doesn't seem to negatively impact web browsing (the sites I tend to visit anyways).

Test Testings: In the first site visited in the video, NYTimes.com, I have JavaScript support enabled on BOTH phones. For the next three sites visited, I disabled JS on the BlackBerry Storm, back to the default setting. Most people don't even monkey around with their settings, so I figured the best Real World test would be use those default settings.

The Results:

NYTimes.com - iPhone 3G wins, Storm does not bad... but definitely chokes on the Javascript a bit
WSJ.com - BlackBerry Storm wins, iPhone 3G loads slower then crashes
CrackBerry.com - BlackBerry Storm wins, iPhone 3G loads slower then crashes
ArsTechnica - BlackBerry Storm wins


Conclusions: It's hard to conclude much in 20 minutes, but there are some takeaways here:

1. With default settings, the BlackBerry Storm browser is a bit quicker than the iPhone 3G.

2. If you put the iPhone 3G and BlackBerry Storm head-to-head with the identical settings (either Javascript Support on or off on both), then the iPhone 3G will likely be a bit quicker...

3. that is assuming the iPhone 3G's browser doesn't crash and burn! Seriously, I don't get what was up with the iPhone 3G's browser in this test, but after it crashed on WSJ.com I restarted the device, and it crashed again on CrackBerry.com. Not sure if this was an AT&T network thing, or 2.1 software thing or what, but the Storm's browser proved to be much more reliable during this head-to-head test.

www.crackberry.com
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      11-20-2008, 07:10 AM   #91
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You'll want to take this video for what it's worth. If you think back to my BlackBerry Bold vs. Iphone 3G Web Browser Speed Comparison you'll remember I was all about the scientific process. Not the case here. I had less than twenty minutes to get this done before I had to board the plane, so it was quick and dirty. Consider it a Real World test.

I had time to visit four sites: NYtimes.com, WSJ.com, CrackBerry.com and ArsTechnica.com. It turned out the guy sitting next to me works for Ars Technica and was flying home, so suffice to say he was pretty interested in this little smartphone battle that was being recorded for all to see.

Default Settings: It is important to note that the iPhone 3G by default has JavaScript Support enabled, while the BlackBerry Storm ships with Javascript support disabled (you can go into your browser options and choose to enable it). RIM is still working on optimizing their web browser Javascript support and isn't quite with where they want to be just yet, hence why this setting is disabled for the time being. For day to day normal website browsing, leaving JS support disabled doesn't seem to negatively impact web browsing (the sites I tend to visit anyways).

Test Testings: In the first site visited in the video, NYTimes.com, I have JavaScript support enabled on BOTH phones. For the next three sites visited, I disabled JS on the BlackBerry Storm, back to the default setting. Most people don't even monkey around with their settings, so I figured the best Real World test would be use those default settings.

The Results:

NYTimes.com - iPhone 3G wins, Storm does not bad... but definitely chokes on the Javascript a bit
WSJ.com - BlackBerry Storm wins, iPhone 3G loads slower then crashes
CrackBerry.com - BlackBerry Storm wins, iPhone 3G loads slower then crashes
ArsTechnica - BlackBerry Storm wins


Conclusions: It's hard to conclude much in 20 minutes, but there are some takeaways here:

1. With default settings, the BlackBerry Storm browser is a bit quicker than the iPhone 3G.

2. If you put the iPhone 3G and BlackBerry Storm head-to-head with the identical settings (either Javascript Support on or off on both), then the iPhone 3G will likely be a bit quicker...

3. that is assuming the iPhone 3G's browser doesn't crash and burn! Seriously, I don't get what was up with the iPhone 3G's browser in this test, but after it crashed on WSJ.com I restarted the device, and it crashed again on CrackBerry.com. Not sure if this was an AT&T network thing, or 2.1 software thing or what, but the Storm's browser proved to be much more reliable during this head-to-head test.

www.crackberry.com
Good stuff! I can't wait till tomorrow... Going to the store first thing in the morning!
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      11-20-2008, 10:47 AM   #92
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is that true? from the howardforums it looks like you have to get the blackberry plan. or did i read that wrong?
Yes I'm sure, I work for Verizon.

Pretty neat on the test.

Goodluck to all those braving the stores! Hope you guys get one!
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      11-21-2008, 06:19 AM   #93
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ok so here shortly i'll be leaving to hopefully get this phone. i worked it out so i'm off today and since this is the main thing i need to do today i'm leaving early. the store opens a 7am and the sales man told me they would be sold out before 8am and that people would be there a 6ish, not sure if its hype but i'm upset. i call the mall verizon and they said they only had 2????? the best buy said they had 50?? and half are reserved and that they expected alot more. I really think verizon did this on purpose to build free advertisement of sold out blackberry's. i mean how do you open with 2????????????

any ways i'm optimistic about this store and i hope to not embarrass my self with excitement like this guy
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      11-21-2008, 06:52 AM   #94
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There are serious shortages everywhere. I'm putting orders in today and they aren't even shipping out until the 25th.

They told us this after we made our pre-order lists. Go figure.
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      11-21-2008, 08:03 AM   #95
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I think I'm going with the Bold. In all the reviews, they say the Bold is a better Blackberry.
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      11-21-2008, 08:44 AM   #96
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      11-21-2008, 08:51 AM   #97
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Hey how is it freshnezz??

Were you with Verizon before?
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      11-21-2008, 09:06 AM   #98
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Is it heavy? Its heavier than the Bold and iPhone. That is a concern of mine.
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      11-21-2008, 09:38 AM   #99
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Hey how is it freshnezz??

Were you with Verizon before?
i was already with verizon, right now its confusing cause i don't know how to use i hate reading manuals and it not fully activated yet cause i can't make calls or go online which i was told it can do both at the same time

i never considered the bold so i don't know how much it weights, this is my first blackberry
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You'll get used to it pretty quickly. Just remember if to hit the BB button (menu) if you want more options on any screen.
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Im going at lunch to get mine...can't wait, got an erection right now
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Fuck, they better not run out. Imma be pissed, store opens at 7... what the fuck happened to "having plenty in stock"......
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Fuck, they better not run out. Imma be pissed, store opens at 7... what the fuck happened to "having plenty in stock"......
LOL the store i went to only had 11!! your prob better off online or over phone. Man people in line were pissed!!!
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I might go after work to play with it if people are not hogging it
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man fuck that, the line at Verizon is like the unemployment line, there were 50 people at least, ahead of me...too fucking cold to wait in that line...


i'll just wait till next week or something
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man fuck that, the line at Verizon is like the unemployment line, there were 50 people at least, ahead of me...too fucking cold to wait in that line...


i'll just wait till next week or something
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i did see a cute chick playing on her iPhone while waiting in line...i think she's switching over to the dark side
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They are sold out EVERYWHERE in NY....
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i just got one online, i get 2 months free service also...and 50 bucks off the price


just call them and get that shit online, and i would advise you guys to INSURE this thing...so if u got a fucked up working one just dunk it in the toilet and get a new phone.
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