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      10-01-2008, 10:40 AM   #1
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Porsche accuses Nissan GT-R of cheating the Ring

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/p...ting-the-ring/

Sour grapes or legitimate complaint? That's the question we're left pondering after reading that Porsche believes Nissan must have cheated to record its 7:29:03 lap time of the famed Nürburgring race circuit. Porsche claims that it had been suspicious of the Nissan's lap times, so it acquired a U.S.-spec GT-R for testing back-to-back with its own 911 Turbo and GT2. The result? The mighty Godzilla was toppled by the Teutonic German duo, with the GT-R posting times a good 25-seconds slower than Nissan's claim.

How can Porsche explain the discrepancy? "This wonder car with 7:29 could not have been a regular series production car. For us, it's not clear how this time is possible. What we can imagine with this Nissan is they used other tires," says August Achleitner, the man in charge of the 911 program. There is footage of the GT-R lapping the 'Ring at high speed, but it's taken from inside the car where the tires cannot be seen.

Considering the fact that Nissan saw fit to issue a press release commemorating the car's fast-lap, we doubt this is something that will be taken lightly. There's a big can 'o worms here, and Porsche's in the corner holding the opener.
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HAHA!! I finally beat somebody to the punch! I beat ya by 1:20! woo hoo!

LOL, just giving you a hard time. I posted this in the OT section. Maybe this is a better place for it though? Whatever...

My first non-repost thread of original newsworthy interest (lol): http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175197
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      10-01-2008, 04:27 PM   #3
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DAMMIT!!!!!!!

Somebody beat me to it...by a DAY. lol. So mine is a REPOST, and yours is a DOUBLE REPOST! LOL

DAMMIT!

OP, AFAIK:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174911
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Well, they most likely ARE cheating. A while back, I got into an argument over nurburgring lap times with ArtM3 (of course, who else???). I put together a regression model demonstrating the extremely high degree of correlation between nurburgring lap times and power to weight ratios. At the end of the day, physics probably has more to do with performance than the color of the badge on the hood of the car.

Except for a couple of porsches that performed real well and the M3 CSL, pretty much every car is within one standard deviation of the regression line. Even those slightly faster cars barely broke out.

Now look at this. As they say, a picture is worth a thousands words.



The straight math would say the GTR's time is roughly 22 seconds faster than it should be. Well guess what, when porsche tested a stock GTR (without extra boost and slicks), it was 25 seconds slower than Nissan's time.
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