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      09-29-2008, 07:56 PM   #1
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what happens now since the bailout bill was not passed?

can some fellow e90ers please help fill me in?
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      09-29-2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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just wait and see, it'll pass eventually. When they reach an agreement.
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Theyre gonna modify, then try again, but wont start negotiating until thursday because theres a jewish holiday doing on now.
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modify, then retry
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what happens now is. we run and hide. lol .they will find other solutions.
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if first you don't succeed, try try again...

but it will be a "watered-down" version for sure...
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Time to get your credit card out.
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Theyre gonna modify, then try again, but wont start negotiating until thursday because theres a jewish holiday doing on now.
Something will get done.

Too bad the election cycle coincided and that the message to Main St was so poorly communicated, leaving people thinking: "why do I need to bail out this rich, risk-takers on wall St?".

Credit markets are in dire straits; that affects everyone and will flow through to Main St. Here's a decent quote from a letter I read by Mauldin (no bleeding heart liberal):
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Let's start with our friend ... down the street. He needs financing to be able to sell an automobile. To get those loans at good prices, an auto maker has to be able to borrow money and make the loans to Dave's customers. But if something does not stop the bleeding, it is going to get very expensive for GM to get money to make loans. That will make his cars more expensive to consumers. Cheap loans with small down payments are the life blood of the auto selling business. That is going to change dramatically unless something is done to stabilize the markets.

Credit card debt is typically packaged and sold to investors like pension funds and insurance companies. But in today's environment, that credit card debt is going to have to pay a much higher price in order to find a buyer. That means higher interest rates. Further, because most of the large issuers of credit cards are struggling with their leverage, they are reducing the amount of credit card debt they will give their card holders. If they continue to have to write down mortgages on their books because of mark-to-market rules which price assets at the last fire-sale price, it will mean even more shrinkage in available credit.

Try and sell a home above the loan limits of Fannie and Freddie today with a nonconforming jumbo loan. Try and find one that does not have very high rates, because many lenders who normally do them simply cannot afford to keep them on their balance sheets. And a subprime mortgage? Forget about it. This is going to get even worse if the financial markets melt down.
We are in a recession. Unemployment is going to rise to well over 6%.

Consumer spending is going to slow. This is an environment which normally means it is tougher for small businesses and consumers to get financing in any event. Congress or the Fed cannot repeal the business cycle. There are always going to be recessions. And we always get through them, because we have a dynamic economy that figures out how to get things moving again.

Recessions are part of the normal business cycle. But it takes a major policy mistake by Congress or the Fed to create a depression. Allowing the credit markets to freeze would count as a major policy mistake.
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