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      09-04-2008, 08:09 PM   #1
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Anyone overclock?

I just pushed an Athlon x2 4200 from 2100 upto 2500 and its stable with a mild voltage increase.

How far should I push before I'm hitting its limits?
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I'm not a big overclocker. While I've done it alittle bit, I just personally don't really enjoy the slight benefits that it gives. I prefer stability and longevity instead.

Plus, at the moment I'm not really running anything on my computer that would really benefit all that much from overclocking.
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do you have a good cooling system? i used to OC my dual core from 3gh to 3.7gh but i have a water cooling system, it consumed too much power so i defaulted back to regular speed
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You can still over clock a decent amount on today's hardware with air cooled systems. Intel has been building their chips for overclocking for a little while now.

You just won't get crazy gains. But you can easily OC a intel chip to +~800mhz. Maybe 1ghz if your lucky, all on air cooled heatsinks.
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I just pushed an Athlon x2 4200 from 2100 upto 2500 and its stable with a mild voltage increase.

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3Ghz, as seen here:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/374/1/

Don't be a wuss, go for thermal death
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Just checked my idle CPU temp and its 50c. Is that too hot?
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Just checked my idle CPU temp and its 50c. Is that too hot?
If it's 50 at idle, yeah thats running alittle hot. Typical idling temperatures should be in the mid low-mid 40s. Did you check your temp right after running a big application? CPU temps under load can be around 65ish and not be a concern.
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CPU under %100 load is 65c but still 50c at idle. System temp is 40c
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CPU under %100 load is 65c but still 50c at idle. System temp is 40c
if i remember correctly that would be a lil too hot, if it heats up your room then you know it's hot, i think my water cooled system run in the 40s loaded
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The old single core XP AMD's ran a little hot - nowhere near as bad as the Intel P4's - the X2's however got warm aswell.

I wouldn't push voltage much past 1.5v and temps more than 65-70C are a concern.

Again - this is some pretty old tech that you're using mate. AMD lost the performance battle when Intel released the Core architecture - the Core 2 stuff has just blown AMD completely off the map.

IF you were looking to upgrade (which depending on your purpose and budget - now could be a good time to do so) you'd be insane to go anything but intel. There are new Intel chips due in November, a new socket, DDR3 ram - basically means you'll need a whole new PC (new Motherboard, new RAM etc) if you want a new CPU - so the OLD stuff will be REAL cheap (it's already really cheap as it is!).

The catch is that the NEW chips apparently only excel at server type functions - so if you're a gamer or use your PC for media based functions, you're best of getting the high end of the CURRENT CPU's when the new ones come out - as these high end chips will get REAL cheap - even though they're great for your purpose.

You would also be NUTS not to overclock - these chips are just MADE for it. Rule of thumb - if you game - go a dual core CPU - if you do multi-tasking/media then go quad. Also - when you overclock anything over 3.4 ghz you simply won't notice too much.

And as always - if you're going to overclock - make sure you get AFTERMARKET COOLING - I'd suggest the Thermalright TRUE or Tuniq Tower heat sinks with a really nice 120mm med/high cfm fan. A nice case with several 120mm's is also recomended (Antec 900 is a beauty).

Best bang for buck chips right now:

Gamer - E8400 - $139 at Fry's and EASILY clocks to 4.0
Video - Q6600 - $149 at Fry's and clocks like a champ.
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I'm running a Antec 900 right now. I love the massive fan on top!
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Water cooled ftw: Q6600 oc'd to 3.9 GHz
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The old single core XP AMD's ran a little hot - nowhere near as bad as the Intel P4's - the X2's however got warm aswell.

I wouldn't push voltage much past 1.5v and temps more than 65-70C are a concern.

Again - this is some pretty old tech that you're using mate. AMD lost the performance battle when Intel released the Core architecture - the Core 2 stuff has just blown AMD completely off the map.

IF you were looking to upgrade (which depending on your purpose and budget - now could be a good time to do so) you'd be insane to go anything but intel. There are new Intel chips due in November, a new socket, DDR3 ram - basically means you'll need a whole new PC (new Motherboard, new RAM etc) if you want a new CPU - so the OLD stuff will be REAL cheap (it's already really cheap as it is!).

The catch is that the NEW chips apparently only excel at server type functions - so if you're a gamer or use your PC for media based functions, you're best of getting the high end of the CURRENT CPU's when the new ones come out - as these high end chips will get REAL cheap - even though they're great for your purpose.

You would also be NUTS not to overclock - these chips are just MADE for it. Rule of thumb - if you game - go a dual core CPU - if you do multi-tasking/media then go quad. Also - when you overclock anything over 3.4 ghz you simply won't notice too much.

And as always - if you're going to overclock - make sure you get AFTERMARKET COOLING - I'd suggest the Thermalright TRUE or Tuniq Tower heat sinks with a really nice 120mm med/high cfm fan. A nice case with several 120mm's is also recomended (Antec 900 is a beauty).

Best bang for buck chips right now:

Gamer - E8400 - $139 at Fry's and EASILY clocks to 4.0
Video - Q6600 - $149 at Fry's and clocks like a champ.
Cheers for the info - I know its old tech but it still runs Crysis with an 8800gt
Its the media centre PC anyway so doesn't get used for much gaming - too much TV!!!
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Water cooled ftw: Q6600 oc'd to 3.9 GHz
Interesting. I feel like they mounted the motherboard in relation to the fans in wrong though.

The fans should be blowing air over the PCI cards and past them. Not just directly on top of them. Having the cards sideways in there like that is horrible for air flow.
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That full system is watercooled - you'd have sinks on the ram/gpu etc on any PCI card - most likely sinks on the RAM too - all actively cooled by the water that itself is cooled by the radiator.

Basically - so long as that radiator is cooled correctly, he could have bugger all fans in that rig and he'd still be golden.
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That full system is watercooled - you'd have sinks on the ram/gpu etc on any PCI card - most likely sinks on the RAM too - all actively cooled by the water that itself is cooled by the radiator.

Basically - so long as that radiator is cooled correctly, he could have bugger all fans in that rig and he'd still be golden.
The ram isn't watercooled on this one. But the cpu & gpu are. Also keep in mind that the mountain mod case like that is compartmentalized. The psu with the hd's and 5-1/2 slots are in the bottom compartment. The top is just the mobo. Six 120mm fans push air through and the radiator is a 240mm x 80mm.

There is a ton of air moving through it. So like right now it's 31 degrees and the gpu is 37. After a couple hours of OCCT stress testing, I've seen it get up to 57 degrees... temps aren't a problem; getting the gigabyte mobo with the x38 chipset stable is another story
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There is a ton of air moving through it. So like right now it's 31 degrees and the gpu is 37. After a couple hours of OCCT stress testing, I've seen it get up to 57 degrees... temps aren't a problem; getting the gigabyte mobo with the x38 chipset stable is another story
Good luck with that.
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