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      09-03-2008, 10:37 PM   #1
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Why Republicans scare me…

They are incredibly confident and utterly incompetent. A fatal mix.

Sarah McBitch will rip apart Joe “the Helmet” Biden in debates.

She just strikes me as “do whatever it takes.”

Oh, well, such is life….there’s always Canada…
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      09-03-2008, 11:17 PM   #2
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Dude,

With comments like that, please go to Canada....I, and many others will not miss you one bit.....

I thought this was a forum about BMWs......not uneducated personal attacks
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      09-03-2008, 11:24 PM   #3
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They are incredibly confident and utterly incompetent. A fatal mix.

Sarah McBitch will rip apart Joe “the Helmet” Biden in debates.

She just strikes me as a “do whatever it takes” cunt.

Oh, well, such is life….there’s always Canada…
Unnecessary. Language and comments like that show a certain level of intelligence.
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With comments like that, please go to Canada....I, and many others will not miss you one bit.....

I thought this was a forum about BMWs......not uneducated personal attacks
x2. or go to Iran - they hate women there too.
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Unnecessary. Language and comments like that show a certain level of intelligence.
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I was hoping that there would be some competent individuals that had some sort of education that would aid in an intellectual debate. We all obviously share one quality , I thought a political discussion would have been possible.


But then again, what kind of person sits and waits for people to talk about politics in a BMW forum? 90im
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Tonight at the RNC, when Palin said something to the effect of ".. they show a love and pride for their country through the good and the bad"....

I actually thought of all the people like e90im on this forum (yes, I know it's sad that I thought of this forum while in real life) and how they embody everything that people like Palin do not.

Whether you think she's a idiot, or dishonest, wrong, WHATEVER, you cannot debate the fact that her statement was powerful and had merit.

There are people in this country that show pride and love for their country, regardless of circumstances, through good times and bad. Those are the people to hang your hat on, those are the people that you want around. To set things straight, I am not saying that disagreement of policies or ways of doing things is wrong or should not be tolerated. To the contrary.

People (namely e90im, ArtPE, to some extent dr325i) do not embody this spirit at all. They see it their way (which is fine), but their way pulls, tugs, yanks, and otherwise fights it's way against everything that the good people in this country are trying to do to make it a better place to live.

Instead of providing and/or facilitating actual political discussion, they most often can be seen whining, complaining, belittling, and otherwise bantering against anything and everything that has gone on in this country for the past 8 years. You name it, they've gone to town on it. They would rather provide criticism on what has happened in the past instead of debate about what is best for the future.
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They are incredibly confident and utterly incompetent. A fatal mix.

Sarah McBitch will rip apart Joe “the Helmet” Biden in debates.

She just strikes me as a “do whatever it takes” cunt.

Oh, well, such is life….there’s always Canada…
Think before you move.... Canada is an expensive place to live. We pay way more taxes than you Americans and a shack in my neighbour cost about 1 million U.S. dollars.
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Sarah Palin did a good job delivering her acceptance speech tonight. I have heard some of her lines last week. They were good lines, well delivered.

The election this year is based on style more than any election I can remember. It's Obama style vs. Palin style. It's McCain experience vs. Biden experience. It's a very interesting election year.

For all the bluster against the other party, both the Republicans and the Democrats are very much alike. Hearing many of the speakers for the each party in these two conventions, the rhetoric, slogans, and one liners have been laid on thick and repeated in so many ways. Perhaps it is not realistic for candidates and their cronies to be able to deliver detail to a television audience. It seems that all of them simply use whatever digs and jabs they can deliver against their opponents without elevating the presentation to any kind of view of their motivating force.

What really makes them seek the office?
What is the American dream?
How does history serve to guide them?
What should the nation be?
Is there a fundamental difference in the parties?
How will they succeed?
What are the challenges that can be addressed? Must be resolved?

We may think we have some of these answers. But haven't we heard it all before? Isn't it more of the same? Don't they keep repeating themselves election after election? They all claim change. Sometimes they promise specific changes. Seldom if ever does it go past their state of the union address every January.

These two parties are so much alike, that they should just merge into one.
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Think before you move.... Canada is an expensive place to live. We pay way more taxes than you Americans and a shack in my neighbour cost about 1 million U.S. dollars.
oh but wait - if we elect my Obama we can all pay more taxes than you Canadiens.
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Using the "C" word to try and get your hate across is despicable, disgusting and immature. Your own shadow must scare you too when you see it in your little hate bunker. Pathetic.

"Fatal mix" Please explain how does fatality enter in?
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oh but wait - if we elect my Obama we can all pay more taxes than you Canadiens.
Really? Man, you must make a lot of money!
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      09-04-2008, 12:05 PM   #12
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Regardless of personal feelings about which party has a better plan, we know some things for sure.

1. We have a limited amount of money in the Federal budget.
2. We can only afford to do some of the programs each candidate wants to do.
3. The U.S. has to finance a large military complex due to its geographic location and borders, as well as foreign aid.
4. Other countries who have succeeded in providing everyone with a small subset of free health care have done it by levying higher taxes and keeping their military fairly small.

Most of Obama's wish list of things he wants to do will never happen.

Most of McCain's wish list of what he wants to do will never happen.

In terms of large programs that cost a lot of money, a president may get 2-3 approved during the first four years in office.

So the best way to attack this is to decide for yourselves which plans are most important to you and which ones are likely to get passed.

Ignore the total laundry list of programs as 75% will never see any progress. That is just election speak.

Have we forgotten when Bill Clinton was in office, the economy was in a positive cycle started during the Bush Sr. administration. Even though the country was doing well, Bill and Hillary could not get health care approved. I don't believe we will ever be able to afford health care because of our military requirements.

I know American's in general don't want to believe we have limited funds and they sure don't want programs cut that affect them, but this is reality.
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OK, I got booed for the "c word".

If I hurt anyone's feelings, my apologies.
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i hope Obama wins I'm sick of republicans especially bush they haven't done anything but get the US into shit
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i hope Obama wins I'm sick of republicans especially bush they haven't done anything but get the US into shit
Thank you for your insightful analysis.
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Thank you for your insightful analysis.
as simple as it is, he's damn right.... nothing to be expressed in words necessarily, it's a feeling most of us have. we're just sick and tired of this
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as simple as it is, he's damn right.... nothing to be expressed in words necessarily, it's a feeling most of us have. we're just sick and tired of this
You are right, it is a feeling. Not a thought based on an analysis of the available evidence but purely an emotion.
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You are right, it is a feeling. Not a thought based on an analysis of the available evidence but purely an emotion.
yah yah yah... i feel bush has F'd up this country. i feel he needs to GTFO. and i also feel really sick of ur endless pointless meaningless arguments.
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yah yah yah... i feel bush has F'd up this country. i feel he needs to GTFO. and i also feel really sick of ur endless pointless meaningless arguments.
Come Jan 20, 2009 he will be out. I could not care less what you feel, now if you have a rational thought please let me know.
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