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      08-27-2008, 10:26 PM   #23
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That poor cone. At least it was quick, not like the autoX killings where the initial hit isn't what does it, it's the 30 seconds of dragging under the car that causes the death.

Great vids...keep 'em coming.

Monticello with PDA on Sept 26th?
Limerock with PDA on Nov1?

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      08-28-2008, 11:28 AM   #24
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Just watched the vid again and noticed how well the M3 held the GT3 on the straights.

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The guy in the Blue E36 M3, smooth lines in not in his nature by the looks of it.
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      08-28-2008, 12:37 PM   #25
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I only had a DCT issue at one place on the track and that was at the end of the front straight (after the bridge). Under braking it would ignore my downshift commands as I tried to downshift from 5 to 4 to 3. I had to wait until I was turned into the corner to downshift.

It was frustrating, however it had very little effect on my overall speed and smoothness.
That it a huge concern for me.......they better fix this issue The stupid ZF auto transmission in the 335i will let you downshift no matter how har you break into a turn on a track, so why can't a transmission in a 70k not
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      08-28-2008, 02:41 PM   #26
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great video. Thanks for posting. looks like you had a blast. You seemed a little early on turn in through a couple sections...
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great video. Thanks for posting. looks like you had a blast. You seemed a little early on turn in through a couple sections...
One thing that takes time to learn is your turn in points and braking points. It's amazing how often you see people not using all of the track, in fact almost driving like they do on the road. The whole objective is to straighten out the corner, thus making the line through straighter and allow you to carry more speed. Sounds simply but isn't.

In fairness to skierman64 his lines were smooth which is half the battle, unlike the guy in the Blue M3, aggressive turn ins and getting on the power to soon only heats the tyres up which was there for all to see at the 7:53 point.
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      08-28-2008, 08:16 PM   #28
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One of the best parts of the video is listening to the GT3 at the beginning. Ohh what a sweet sound. I miss my Porsche
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      08-29-2008, 12:27 AM   #29
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Here's an interesting fact, I got 6.6mpg during 3 sessions on the track. Yikes.

Ok, I finally got all my video footage uploaded to the internet from the BMW CCA HPDE on Thunderbolt Track at NJ Motorsports Park. There's over an hour and a half of footage. Here are the links to the 7 sessions that I recorded. The first ones in the red (beginner) group, I was put there by mistake. A few in the blue (intermediate) group. And the last two in the green (advanced) group. The car is a 2008 M3 with DCT.

Here are the links in chronlogical order: You might want to grab a Snickers Bar. (Great googly moogly)

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=XBT9EIHH

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=3N00U6X0

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=416M3UJQ

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=DNOSE120

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=MFX9KHS3

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=YUX329AB

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=NZ0BYCLG

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great video. Thanks for posting. looks like you had a blast. You seemed a little early on turn in through a couple sections...
It's entirely possible, however some corners reward an early apex. Also, the cones are not set up perfectly as this was the first time the BMW CCA has been at the track and the cone placement wasn't refined over the weekend. I figure, as long as I can accelerate out of the apex and not go off the track at the track out point, my turn in wasn't too early
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      08-29-2008, 12:31 AM   #30
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skierman64,

Just watched the vid again and noticed how well the M3 held the GT3 on the straights.

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The guy in the Blue E36 M3, smooth lines in not in his nature by the looks of it.
And he was running Pilot Sport Cup tires. If I had R compounds, I would have knocked a few seconds off my lap time and would have been even closer to the GT3. That says something about how well balanced the M3 is, IMHO. Plus, I'm giving up about 400lbs to the GT3.
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One of the best parts of the video is listening to the GT3 at the beginning. Ohh what a sweet sound. I miss my Porsche

Yes the GT3 is a sweet sounding car.

Interesting to note, some of my friends who were watching while I was on the track said my M3 was one of the few cars with a stock muffler which they could hear from the snack bar area about 100yds from the track. They said it sounded sweet as the revs built down the backstretch.
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Yes the GT3 is a sweet sounding car.

Interesting to note, some of my friends who were watching while I was on the track said my M3 was one of the few cars with a stock muffler which they could hear from the snack bar area about 100yds from the track. They said it sounded sweet as the revs built down the backstretch.
Do you plan on adding an aftermarket pipe anytime soon?
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      08-29-2008, 10:16 AM   #33
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Do you plan on adding an aftermarket pipe anytime soon?
I've had aftermarket exhausts on a previous car and found that they get very annoying in daily driving or on long trips. So while the sound would be nice on the track, I enjoy the quiet for daily driving. My personal feeling is that the performance advantage of an aftermarket exhaust is not enough to warrant the cost. The real advantages are in weight savings and sound (for those looking for that).

I also found that my stock exhaust got slightly louder after the 3 day HPDE. Perhaps the accumulated time above 5K rpm reduced the some of the muffling effect of the stock exhaust ever so slightly.

I suppose if I could find an exhaust that was loud above 5K but was quiet at lower rpm, I would consider it. However, I think Id have to experience it first hand before investing that kind of cash.
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I suppose if I could find an exhaust that was loud above 5K but was quiet at lower rpm, I would consider it. However, I think Id have to experience it first hand before investing that kind of cash.
I agree with you there.. I am very particular when buying an aftermarket exhaust system so I need to hear them in person too. Audio clips just don't do it for me. From what I understand however is that the new v8 sounds great with aftermarket exhaust systems.. I don't know if they are quiet while cursing though. That would be somewhat important for me too.
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Skeriman, thanks for posting all of those videos. They were fun to watch!
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From what I understand however is that the new v8 sounds great with aftermarket exhaust systems.. I.
I just installed the Supersprint race...and it is intoxicating. Not too loud, but a great rumble down low. I'm still breaking in the car, though, so I haven't run it up top yet.

And the V8 does sound so good putting around town...brings me back to my Z06 days.

BTW... GREAT VIDS!!!!!

Limerock on Nov1 with PDA...come on up!!!!

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good job on the video! i really enjoyed it. nice pictures too.
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good job on the video! i really enjoyed it. nice pictures too.
James, are there any brake duct kits for the E9x M3 that you're aware of?
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Great write-up Skierman.

Am I wrong or don't you have EDC (not shown in your signature)?
If so would the "sport" setting of the EDC make a major difference on a track-ride, compared to "normal" which one has w/o EDC?
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Great write-up Skierman.

Am I wrong or don't you have EDC (not shown in your signature)?
If so would the "sport" setting of the EDC make a major difference on a track-ride, compared to "normal" which one has w/o EDC?
I do have EDC as it's part of the technology package. I ran on the track with EDC on sport the entire time. My thought was since I was learning a new car on the track and a new track as well, I wanted to reduce the number of variables. With EDC in normal the computer determines the shock rates adjusting many times a seconds, however in sport the computer locks in a stiff shock value and keeps it constant. I thought it would be easier to learn the car at the limits in that manner. BMW says the car is faster on the track in normal than sport, I will probably try normal mode at a future track event.

My instructor asked me if I had and aftermarket race suspension on the car, because he liked how predicable and perfect it was for track work.

I can't compare it to a non-edc car because I haven't driven one, however EDC allows the flexibility to cruise down the interstate in comfort or hit the track in sport mode just by hitting a button.
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