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      08-11-2008, 10:19 AM   #1
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Dissapointed in Torque

I just got the 2000KM service done and finally got a chance to open it up.....well after all the anticipation I was somewhat dissapointed. I have driven the IS-F and recently a 335 loaner when my car was in, having that in my memory our cars just doesn't have the pull I think it should.
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I just got the 2000KM service done and finally got a chance to open it up.....well after all the anticipation I was somewhat dissapointed. I have driven the IS-F and recently a 335 loaner when my car was in, having that in my memory our cars just doesn't have the pull I think it should.

You should have gotten a hemi.

Your butt is deceiving you.
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      08-11-2008, 10:34 AM   #3
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Your car is still very new, I'm on 6,000 miles and the M is getting better by the day. Give the car time to loosen up and the you'll notice the engine improving...
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      08-11-2008, 10:54 AM   #4
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Your car is still very new, I'm on 6,000 miles and the M is getting better by the day. Give the car time to loosen up and the you'll notice the engine improving...
I hope that is the case. I know in theory that is what should happen but I don't anticipate THAT much more to come out.

That being said the M sounds incredibly mean. I opened it up once going through the heart of downtown with the tall office towers and what a sound
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I hope that is the case. I know in theory that is what should happen but I don't anticipate THAT much more to come out.

That being said the M sounds incredibly mean. I opened it up once going through the heart of downtown with the tall office towers and what a sound
You also have a F430 right? You shouldn't expect the M3 to give good torque after the engine loosens up. It is a high revving engine, and tuned to give a flat torque curve.

I am serious, if you want torque get an AMG or a Hemi.....the ///M cars don't produce power this way no more than Ferrari.
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You also have a F430 right? You shouldn't expect the M3 to give good torque after the engine loosens up. It is a high revving engine, and tuned to give a flat torque curve.

I am serious, if you want torque get an AMG or a Hemi.....the ///M cars don't produce power this way no more than Ferrari.

Thanks.

I somewhat knew what to expect with the torque figures posted when I bought it but for some reason feels dull and the 335 producing the same power FEELS like ti pulls harder.
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do you guys even test drive the cars before u buy them??
Not in Canada.
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Not in Canada.
dont tell me they dont let you!!! OMG, i'd fly to the US for a weekend before spending 70k like that lol
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Thanks.

I somewhat knew what to expect with the torque figures posted when I bought it but for some reason feels dull and the 335 producing the same power FEELS like ti pulls harder.

I guess you have to decide if you want a car that "feels" faster or actually is faster...

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Feeling fast is not necessarily the same thing as being fast. M3 has plenty of torque at the wheels/lb. This has been calculated/plotted/debated to death on this forum.
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Wow, with an F430 you should know exactly what kind of motor it is you are getting.
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Not in Canada.
Not a problem here in Toronto.There was a demo on the road the 1st week in downtown TO.I did not drive one before I picked up mine and I have had zero disapointment!Matter of fact I am still thrilled with the car!
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After the 1200mile service my butt dyno told me it's a lot better.
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How can you buy the car and be disappointed in the amount of torque this engine produces? It's written right on the window sticker. It's not like it's a surprise.
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You feel torque delivered to the wheels (minus losses) divided by vehicle weight. (Hp-losses)/weight is a decent approximation of this in most cases. You also feel "lumpy" torque curves which adds a jerk component and like others said the M3 does not have much of this due to a very flat torque curve.

I'm truly sorry if you are not satisfied with your car.
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I'll take it!! Is pink and purple.. I don't care!!!
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will future gears help?
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It's funny how one man's pleasure is another man's pain. The heavy-fisted manner in which the torque was delivered in the 335i when the TT boost came on is exactly why I preferred the M3 and its smooth power delivery. It just goes to show that perception is often more important than reality.
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Had to go take the car for a spin, I just don't get it. There is plenty there everywhere in the rev range. What do you want? To break the tires loose in a pointless display of horsepower not getting to the ground at 1500 rpm?
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I just got the 2000KM service done and finally got a chance to open it up.....well after all the anticipation I was somewhat dissapointed. I have driven the IS-F and recently a 335 loaner when my car was in, having that in my memory our cars just doesn't have the pull I think it should.
not sure what this rumour of no torque! I think some of you guys have to drive it correctly.
I'd had a e46 M3 before this, and I wouldnt lie that that series M3 did had a low end lack of performance.
But moving to this e92, there was a much significant improve difference!
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