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      06-15-2008, 03:10 PM   #1
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Clicking noise after 1200 mile service (w/video)

After my 1200 mile service (done around 1350) I got a clicking noise like SnowsM3 did (haven't heard his, but I'm thinking it sounds like this according to his description) and it occurs after the car is fully warmed up and at low engine speeds. It can be best heard in a garage (or parking garage). This video was taken with the revs around 1-1.5k. Can you guys hear it and do any of you have a similar noise? Since I don't think SnowsM3 posted a video I decided to start a new thread on this topic to see if anyone else had this problem. Thanks.

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      06-15-2008, 11:17 PM   #2
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I checked today after a good amount of driving and I don't have this ticking noise. I'm a DCT w/ 1060 miles and I haven't had the first service yet if that matters.
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That does not sound good at all.
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Probably normal valve noise.... my E36 M3 has clicked since like 2001.... However, your clicking sounds external to the engine which is probably a good thing... maybe even noise from the individual throttle bodies... who knows.. my guess this is normal

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That doesn't sound good. I hate to ask, but do you know if they went into the tranny at all during the 1200 mile service?
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After my 1200 mile service (done around 1350) I got a clicking noise like SnowsM3 did (haven't heard his, but I'm thinking it sounds like this according to his description) ...

I hate to say it, but I heard Snow's car in person, and it sounds like yours has the same ailment. You may already be aware that they want to replace his engine. BMW is having his "old" one shipped back so their engineers can check it out.
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Just in case you don't see it check out Snow's situation:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147661
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That doesn't sound good. I hate to ask, but do you know if they went into the tranny at all during the 1200 mile service?
They did not change the transmission fluid on my car according to the invoice.
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They did not change the transmission fluid on my car according to the invoice.
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That's really strange. Sounds like someone stacking lunch trays on a stainless rack or something. Definitely does not sound like valve clatter which would be much more rhythmic.
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I hope that these cars are getting the correct oil for the oil change.
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Hey bills, I got my 1200 mi service yesterday and I heard this noise too during some spirited driving. I couldn't hear it when the car was standing still and I revved the engine up to 1.3k or anywhere in that range. I did hear it when I was on a clover leaf at a freeway interchange. I had my windows down and I hear that ticking noise from the rear just like your vid.

I'm thinking it could be the lsd kicking in? It's strange that your ticking comes when the car isn't moving/turning though. Any updates?
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A cheap trick here is to use a roll of Christmas wrapping paper with the ends open. Hold one end up to your ear and move the other end around the engine bay. You may be able to localize where the sound is coming from, much like a stethoscope
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A cheap trick here is to use a roll of Christmas wrapping paper with the ends open. Hold one end up to your ear and move the other end around the engine bay. You may be able to localize where the sound is coming from, much like a stethoscope
Oh nice trick. Maybe I'll try that with my thumping issue (which is still there after my first service btw):

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146042
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Hm..I'll check it in my car, never tried to rev it at idle...Have 3300 miles.
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Hey bills, I got my 1200 mi service yesterday and I heard this noise too during some spirited driving. I couldn't hear it when the car was standing still and I revved the engine up to 1.3k or anywhere in that range. I did hear it when I was on a clover leaf at a freeway interchange. I had my windows down and I hear that ticking noise from the rear just like your vid.

I'm thinking it could be the lsd kicking in? It's strange that your ticking comes when the car isn't moving/turning though. Any updates?
My noise occurs when the car is parked and when it's rolling at low speeds (<25 mph). It might be occurring at higher speeds but I can't tell because the wind noise takes over at that point. I still haven't taken it to the dealer, but I will at some point this week. Oh yeah, and the noise is from the front end, not the rear on my car.
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Checked in my car. Nothing similar to this cliking noise, Im sorry.
Checked in garage with cold enegie (1 - 1.5k rpm) and with warm enegie outside and inside the garage (1 - 2k rpm), no cliking.
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So you take it to the dealer? What did they say?
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My noise occurs when the car is parked and when it's rolling at low speeds (<25 mph). It might be occurring at higher speeds but I can't tell because the wind noise takes over at that point. I still haven't taken it to the dealer, but I will at some point this week. Oh yeah, and the noise is from the front end, not the rear on my car.
Ah for some reason I thought it was the back. Mine sounded like it was from the rear, but I'm not 100%. Keep us updated.
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Hey bills, did you check out Snow's updated thread? He's getting a new car it seems like. You should ping him and see if his noise is the same as your vid so you can take it in.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=45
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Hey bills, did you check out Snow's updated thread? He's getting a new car it seems like. You should ping him and see if his noise is the same as your vid so you can take it in.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=45
I PM'd Snow a while ago and haven't heard back from him. I took my car to the dealer today and there was one technician who specifically dealt with M's. I revved it so he could hear it and he said that was normal noise. He's "heard it on all the new M's. Sometimes right after they come off the truck and sometimes after they've been broken in." I asked "so there's definitely nothing to worry about" and he said yes. The car didn't get looked at under the hood. I didn't mention Snows car to him because I'm sure as soon as I said "internet forum" he would turn off his ears. I'm not sure what I should do: let it be since the warranty will take care of anything that goes wrong in the near future, or take it to another dealer to get a second opinion. What do you think?
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I PM'd Snow a while ago and haven't heard back from him. I took my car to the dealer today and there was one technician who specifically dealt with M's. I revved it so he could hear it and he said that was normal noise. He's "heard it on all the new M's. Sometimes right after they come off the truck and sometimes after they've been broken in." I asked "so there's definitely nothing to worry about" and he said yes. The car didn't get looked at under the hood. I didn't mention Snows car to him because I'm sure as soon as I said "internet forum" he would turn off his ears. I'm not sure what I should do: let it be since the warranty will take care of anything that goes wrong in the near future, or take it to another dealer to get a second opinion. What do you think?
God I hate the "that's normal" remark because it's sort of like they don't give a shit and just want you out of their hair. I would take it to another dealer for a second opinion ... it won't hurt. If that doesn't help then ride it out and make sure you just keep an eye out on it. Our cars are so new that nobody has any experience with them. I have a similar situation with a noise from my engine bay, but I have no idea what to do or who to ask. The only difference is that I can also hear my noise on a stock M but it's not nearly as loud so I'm ok with it for the time being. I do want to know what part of the engine is making that noise.

Did you try using a gift wrap tube to poke and listen to various parts of the engine and under carriage? Might help pinpoint the exact location/part it's coming from. Hopefully Snow gets back to you to help you out.
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