BMW Hi temp race pads..

[M3ashburn]

hi guys,

just thought i'd let you guys know that if you consider upgrading your brake system, try out BMW's OEM race pads first, which i'm sure is available at your local dealers.

i had them installed in my AW E92 M3 two weeks ago and took it out to an M track day outing and let me tell ya.. it was awesome! i ran for 50 minutes on the Malaysian Sepang race track non-stop, late braking at all corners and it was the business! it was fade free throuhout the session.. if only i had more fuel

the great thing about it is that its cheap and doesnt void your warranty.

try it out if u plan to take ur M3 on to the tracks.

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by M3ashburn

hi guys,

just thought i'd let you guys know that if you consider upgrading your brake system, try out BMW's OEM race pads first, which i'm sure is available at your local dealers.

i had them installed in my AW E92 M3 two weeks ago and took it out to an M track day outing and let me tell ya.. it was awesome! i ran for 50 minutes on the Malaysian Sepang race track non-stop, late braking at all corners and it was the business! it was fade free throuhout the session.. if only i had more fuel

the great thing about it is that its cheap and doesnt void your warranty.

try it out if u plan to take ur M3 on to the tracks.

M3ashburn

That's great to hear! I've been waiting for them to become available - could you please post the part numbers for us? I want to call my dealer and find out if they're in the system yet - they can't really do it without the numbers, though.

Thanks!

[consolidated]

Originally Posted by JAJ

M3ashburn

That's great to hear! I've been waiting for them to become available - could you please post the part numbers for us? I want to call my dealer and find out if they're in the system yet - they can't really do it without the numbers, though.

Thanks!

+1, do the race pads squeal with street use, be great to not need to swap pads for events.

[M3ashburn]

it squeals initially when its cold and before the track event.. but after that the squeals disappeared. my local service dealer reckons that i still have a good 2k to 3k miles before i chuck the pads in the bin!

i'lll get back to you on the part number in a day or two.

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by M3ashburn

it squeals initially when its cold and before the track event.. but after that the squeals disappeared. my local service dealer reckons that i still have a good 2k to 3k miles before i chuck the pads in the bin!

i'lll get back to you on the part number in a day or two.

Thanks - could you also tell us what they cost?

[M2381]

Wonder how they compare to the brembo brakes

[stevehifi]

Can someone post the part number for the BMW race pads?

[JAJ]

Confirmed with BMW

front 34 11 2 283 764
rear 34 21 2 283 366

The US dealer I asked about them said they're Europe-only and not available from BMWNA.

The Canadian dealer I asked about them said "No problem - it's a factory order and they'll $1500 or so for both axles". At the moment the fronts are out of stock at the factory, but that doesn't mean much - they could arrive any day.

I just did a track day on Tuesday, and for the moment I'm thinking that braking earlier is way cheaper than racing pads. The stock brakes are remarkably good if you look after them.

[GT3 Tim]

Originally Posted by JAJ

Confirmed with BMW

front 34 11 2 283 764
rear 34 21 2 283 366

The US dealer I asked about them said they're Europe-only and not available from BMWNA.

The Canadian dealer I asked about them said "No problem - it's a factory order and they'll $1500 or so for both axles". At the moment the fronts are out of stock at the factory, but that doesn't mean much - they could arrive any day.

I just did a track day on Tuesday, and for the moment I'm thinking that braking earlier is way cheaper than racing pads. The stock brakes are remarkably good if you look after them.

$1500 for pads? LOL Screw that.

Slam on some Pagids or similar and rock it at the track. When its time for service, slam the stockers back in there. It is super easy to swap pads if you are worried about any warranty issues....that's what I would do, should I want to track the car.

[BRDHNTR]

I have never heard of $1500 for pads. What are they made of? It must be real expensive to replace the pads on the new vette w/ the CCB and 15.5" front brakes and 15" rears.

[aussiem3]

BMW race pads squeal is unbearable. They were on the driver training cars recently and they gave me a headache. According to the instructors they are good on the rotors and easy to clean the wheels but not if you want to remain sane.
There was no brake fade whatsoever on the track when we drove like we stole but prepare to get some glances from other drivers.

[LandShark]

Originally Posted by GT3 Tim

$1500 for pads? LOL Screw that.

Slam on some Pagids or similar and rock it at the track. When its time for service, slam the stockers back in there. It is super easy to swap pads if you are worried about any warranty issues....that's what I would do, should I want to track the car.

problem is... neither Pagid nor Performance Friction has any track pads for the new M yet....

I've called both and check as I'll be instructing by end of July. still trying to put as many miles on her as possible before the event (just broke 1000 mile yesterday!), and praying the stock pads will last longer.....

[JAJ]

It's official! I installed a set of PAGID RS-19 Yellows on my E92 M3 yesterday. Pagid has updated their website and it's now showing the correct part numbers instead of "Soon".

Both Bavauto and Turner can supply them. They are a bit more than $800 for both axles.

[Gearhead999s]

Holy crap!The BMW track pads are listed now and pricing is crazy!$1500 for F&R!The stock pads are $477 for comparision!

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

Holy crap!The BMW track pads are listed now and pricing is crazy!$1500 for F&R!The stock pads are $477 for comparision!

That's why I have RS-19's! According to the Porsche crowd, the RS-19's are not corrosive (like HT-10's or PFC-01's) so you don't have to swap back and forth all the time. Dusty, yes - corrosive, no.

[consolidated]

Great choice going with Pagids, the yellow 19/29 is an endurance compound with a long and current racing pedigree. They also wear like rocks compared to Ferodo and even PFC. They squeal like piggies on the street however.

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by JAJ

That's why I have RS-19's! According to the Porsche crowd, the RS-19's are not corrosive (like HT-10's or PFC-01's) so you don't have to swap back and forth all the time. Dusty, yes - corrosive, no.

How rotor freindly are they?and whom did you get them from?

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

How rotor freindly are they?and whom did you get them from?

That information is cleverly concealed in post #13 in this thread!

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by JAJ

That information is cleverly concealed in post #13 in this thread!

I have never heard of either one so I goggled them.I guess I have been out of the BMW loop for quite a while.Neither one lists those pads so I will call in the AM.

OOPS!Found them now on the Turner site!

[Radiation Joe]

Originally Posted by JAJ

That's why I have RS-19's! According to the Porsche crowd, the RS-19's are not corrosive (like HT-10's or PFC-01's) so you don't have to swap back and forth all the time. Dusty, yes - corrosive, no.

I've run PF01s for several years now and don't understand the corrosive comment. Do they attack the wheel finish? I've noted the dust has been hard to remove if left on for a while.

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by Radiation Joe

I've run PF01s for several years now and don't understand the corrosive comment. Do they attack the wheel finish? I've noted the dust has been hard to remove if left on for a while.

If the PFC-01 dust gets wet and then you leave it on for a while it will etch itself into most wheel paints and form a hard lump called "cementite". When you remove cementite it usually leaves a mark or even takes the paint right off.

When I was running PFC-01's I put a coat of vaseline on the rims before the pads went on. I'd just leave the dusty black mess in place for the season and clean the rims in the fall. All it took was a rag - the vaseline and brake dust turned into a crumbly powder that would just wipe off and leave a perfectly clean wheel.

[argonboy]

Originally Posted by aussiem3

BMW race pads squeal is unbearable. They were on the driver training cars recently and they gave me a headache. According to the instructors they are good on the rotors and easy to clean the wheels but not if you want to remain sane.
There was no brake fade whatsoever on the track when we drove like we stole but prepare to get some glances from other drivers.

+1 I've been to two Training events on the E92 M3 (the second last week) and I find them ridiculously loud, bearing in mind we had the windows rolled up the whole time and they were super loud.

If the track is that important, compared to everyday use, the fading is pretty much gone with these. I did the M Intensive Training and I couldn't believe how much abuse they were taking and still had a bite.