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      06-03-2008, 01:38 PM   #23
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Thank you, people are a product of their environments. Blame your government.
I think you have to place blame on their parents first, then the government. But it's pretty close tie.
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      06-03-2008, 06:29 PM   #24
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if they manage to stop illegal immigration (border wall, etc --dont think any of those will work), get ready to pay way more $$ at the grocery (and in a lot of other places as well). there is a demand for cheap labor, so you will continue to have illegal immigrants.
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      06-03-2008, 07:12 PM   #25
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Its not the illegals that are the problem. Illegals try to avoid confrontation not start it why would they wanna draw attention to them self with there status? The problem is with disturbed young adults of all races born into poverty. I have to admit poor white kids act just as bad as poor black and mexican kids. I found this out the last time my car was keyed.
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      06-03-2008, 07:26 PM   #26
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if they manage to stop illegal immigration (border wall, etc --dont think any of those will work), get ready to pay way more $$ at the grocery (and in a lot of other places as well). there is a demand for cheap labor, so you will continue to have illegal immigrants.
PRO illegal immigrant people keep using this as an excuse.
But the fact of the matter is, go back just a decade, when there was 1/2 the amount of illegal immigrants in this country. Groceries and such were just as cheap if not cheaper than they are today.
Go back 25 years (before Reagan gave amnesty) when there was 1/10th the amount of illegal immigrants in this country and groceries and products were even cheaper.
Guess who did those manual labor jobs back then? Yes, minimum wage Americans. Things were still cheap.

To the contrary, grocieries, products and even manual labor that PRO illegal immigrants say, "American's don't want to do" has become MORE expensive in the past decade or so.

And Americans WILL and HAVE done all those manual labor jobs in the past.
Ask anyone in their 30's and 40's
WE did them when we were in our teens and early 20's
We washed cars.
We worked at fast food joints.
We cut neighbors lawns.

The problem isn't that American's don't want to do it.
It's that business don't want to pay minimum wage and taxes when they have illegal Mexicans who will work for LESS than minimum wage and often skirt paying taxes.

But that's off topic anyway and a different story.

Way too many illegals are in GANGS and that's the bigger problem (stopping the gang crime and violence and if that means deporting these Hispanic illegals and criminals in many respects, so be it) and part of the topic of this post and the Playboy article.
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      06-04-2008, 08:12 AM   #27
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It's clear what we need to do. Kill 'em, all. Put them all in a huge field and bomb the bastards. Clean up American neighborhoods and give it back to the Americans who work hard (I'm sure there are some left) and who stand up for their country and their freedoms (good luck trying to find them either) with more than a f___ing yellow sticker on the back of their car.
All out War, it's what's for dinner.
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they can't just deploy the army into the streets and kill off gang bangers
if they could do that, the cops would do it... they are more armed than you think... (SWAT etc..)
the problem is you need evidence to convict them and what not.. and everyone has the right to a trial.. blah blah blah

there is no cut clean solution
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So, if we got rid of rap music their would be no gangs? If i remember correctly, LA had gang problems before rap even became popular. Isn't that like saying that we woundn't have yuppies if we got rid of Starbucks?
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So has anybody else read the article.
Come on guys, I know you ALL get Playboy.
And since the pictures in Playboy are so damn tame, I know you read the articles too (which are quite good btw)
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can someone scan the article and post it?
I'd like to read it...
does it really say "black kkk" ????
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can someone scan the article and post it?
I'd like to read it...
does it really say "black kkk" ????
Yes, that's the title of the article and it's on the front cover.
It's about time someone recognized that fact that these "black KKK"
has caused much more deaths than the "other" KKK ever has/had.
And these modern (last 20 years) gangs have also done A LOT more other criminal law breaking activities than the original "white KKK" ever did.

It's about time these modern terrorists and gang bangers are recognized as what they really are....the worst form of terrorists, racists, and criminals America has seen in a LONG, LONG time.
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Yes, that's the title of the article and it's on the front cover.
It's about time someone recognized that fact that these "black KKK"
has caused much more deaths than the "other" KKK ever has/had.
And these modern (last 20 years) gangs have also done A LOT more other criminal law breaking activities than the original "white KKK" ever did.

It's about time these modern terrorists and gang bangers are recognized as what they really are....the worst form of terrorists, racists, and criminals America has seen in a LONG, LONG time.
TRUE but I think they are blurring the ling between gangs and racial cults.
I guess the arian brotherhood or whatever they are called is like a gang....I just dont see the relevance..



can someone scan the article!!
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So, if we got rid of rap music their would be no gangs? .........?
NO we can NOT do that! If we get rid of rap we get rid of this too!
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