First "OFFICIAL" M3 specific Brembo BBK installed - M3 Forum 2010 2009 BMW M3 2008 BMW M3 BMW E90 M3 E92

OC kid · 05-09-2008, 03:44 PM

I want to thank Jaime, Gary and the whole crew at Brembo for all of their help and support with this project. This is the first kit in N/A to be installed and the first from Brembo made specifically for our M3.

IMPRESSIONS:

My initial impressions are based on just less than 1000 miles, mixing highway and city driving, and after a proper bedding-in under the supervision of Brembo's product specialist. I am planning on making the trip up at month end to Willow Springs for the upcoming BMWCCA event, so we will have some more impressions, particularly regarding fade, soon.

The car does feel quicker overall and I suspect that may be due to the reduction in weight with the swap. I just picked up the OEM brake assembly from Brembo an hour ago. I am fixing to get them weighed here this afternoon to compare to the BBK. I will post the results on lucid's weight reduction thread in the General Forum.

Stopping is now entirely different with the Brembos. It is not as sensitive on initial input with the pedal as with the OEM. There now seems to be depth to the braking action which is nicer, giving you more feel. I have had no fade issues as of yet, but haven't taken it to the track either. Stopping power seems limitless. June 1st's upcoming BMWCCA event will bring more insight as I plan on putting them to the test then.

Brembo has calculated the heat loads generated on the stock brake system and determined that the 380 x 34 on the front and 380 x 28 on the rear best handle the demands placed on the M3. These, along with stainless steel lines make up the specific kit Brembo has introduced for the car. The kit will fit with the OEM 19" wheels with 3mm clearance (min. req'd) between the closest point of conflict (the wheel balance weight) on the wheel and the caliper. I chose the drilled over the slotted since the car will only be tracked a few times a year initially. As an option, you can select the slotted rotors which provide a more even heat/cooling cycle which track users will prefer. The drilled rotors will tend to cool faster and are generally more suited for street use.

...more to come.

...More info from Gary at Race Technologies...UPDATED 12.08... HERE and HERE

AwesomeM3 · 05-09-2008, 03:47 PM

Looks sick!

gadget · 05-09-2008, 04:30 PM

OC Kid,

Your car just keeps getting nicer and nicer.

drZ · 05-09-2008, 04:40 PM

shit man..that must have caused a pretty penny..looking good anyhow ockid..

drsnooz · 05-09-2008, 04:40 PM

Your car looks beautiful! I like the Brembo's. Is it 6 or 8 piston up front? What is the damage $$$?

Epacy · 05-09-2008, 05:15 PM

Lovely and thanks for the information!

Need more pics!! Close-ups too.

Technic · 05-09-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsnooz

Your car looks beautiful! I like the Brembo's. Is it 6 or 8 piston up front? What is the damage $$$?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

This along with stainless steel lines, the 6 piston monoblock fronts and 4 piston rears make up the specific kit Brembo has introduced for the car.

WCH · 05-09-2008, 05:38 PM

Your car looks great. Thanks for the info! Agree that a close up would be great too.

OC kid · 05-09-2008, 09:10 PM

..a couple more close-ups from the file:

kyoshozx · 05-09-2008, 09:36 PM

Man those are some nice close ups... Great pics.

edlms · 05-09-2008, 11:59 PM

any clearance issues? you're running the 19"s right?
looks like you have plenty of room.

thanks...

cheers

LittleRocket · 05-10-2008, 01:44 AM

Oc Kid, I like your taste. Nice Job

Shade · 05-10-2008, 01:48 AM

Baller !
I love it, bembo is THE best mod ever !

par4bmw · 05-10-2008, 02:24 AM

Kudos to you OC Kid on where you have taken your M to. I am not a big mod fan (although a look at my Jeep would make me a liar) but have to say everything you have done from the brakes to the lip are incredible. Glad to hear the performance of the brakes surpass the killer looks.

swamp2 · 05-10-2008, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

The car does feel quicker overall and I suspect that may be due to the reduction in weight with the swap.

Great mod, great pics but statement such as the above seriously challenge your credibility. Are you serious? Talk about imagined performance. You can not feel a brake mod on a 3700 lb car with 400+ hp, especially when there is not really much difference (if any) between the stock vs. aftemarket weight.

purity · 05-10-2008, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

Great mod, great pics but statement such as the above seriously challenge your credibility. Are you serious? Talk about imagined performance. You can not feel a brake mod on a 3700 lb car with 400+ hp, especially when there is not really much difference (if any) between the stock vs. aftemarket weight.

The Brake Disc of the Brembo is LIGHTER then the OEM Brake Disc.
so its like having a LIGHTER Wheel,
and theoritically, it means less mass to be spin by the engine.just like when you have lighter Flywheel.
Remember he change ALL FOUR WHEEL DISC Brake.
The reduction in weight all add up.

so I believe him when he say the car fell faster,perhaps if he say the car is more RESPONSIVE... it would be more correct...
because the top speed of the car might still be the same, but the car do accelerate faster/more responsive to accelerator input.

I do not think it challenge his credibility at all...

Now if he put a FAKE BREMBO cover on top of his OEM brake then post it here then say the brake is real BREMBO,
that would challenge his credibility...

swamp2 · 05-11-2008, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purity

The Brake Disc of the Brembo is LIGHTER then the OEM Brake Disc.
so its like having a LIGHTER Wheel,
and theoritically, it means less mass to be spin by the engine.just like when you have lighter Flywheel.
Remember he change ALL FOUR WHEEL DISC Brake.
The reduction in weight all add up.

so I believe him when he say the car fell faster,perhaps if he say the car is more RESPONSIVE... it would be more correct...
because the top speed of the car might still be the same, but the car do accelerate faster/more responsive to accelerator input.

I do not think it challenge his credibility at all...

Now if he put a FAKE BREMBO cover on top of his OEM brake then post it here then say the brake is real BREMBO,
that would challenge his credibility...

We all know that rotating mass is more important that non rotating mass. It has to be accelerated and angularly accelerated (spun up). It is important in the wheel area as well to reduce unsprung mass.

I have yet to see that the Brembo rotors are lighter than stock. OC claimed he weighed everything but I have not seen the numbers. They must be darn weak if they are lighter. Both Brembo and stock are aluminum hats and vented and cross drilled cast iron for the rotors. Brembo diameter is larger 380 vs. 361 and thicker 34 vs 30. Those are measurements for the front, OEM M3, rear rotors are even smaller. I'd bet anything the Brembo rotors are heavier. That is not at all ALL bad. They are brakes and their job it to stop, last long and not fade and they will likely do great there. Calipers are probably heavier too those 6 pistons calipers are loooong and large.

All that being said EVEN IF the rotors and calipers were a bit lighter say a few pounds per wheel YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FEEL IT. Can you feel a 20 lb package in your back seat in a 400+ hp car that weighs 3700 lb. NOPE, not possible!

Sorry purity and sorry OC. This is a credibility issue at worst and simply wishful thinking and being blinded by the bling at best.

Being so negative (factual...) I will say this again as well. Beautiful car, beautiful brakes and very likely a super powerful and fade resistant set up.

purity · 05-11-2008, 03:18 AM

Swamp2,

I do not know that the OEM M3 brakes HAT are aluminum.
I thought they are steel like regular E90 brakes.

If the OEM M3 brakes hat are aluminum too,
then you are most probably right, and I am wrong.

The Bigger Brembo rotor is surely heavier then standard M3 rotors then if both have aluminum hat...

OC kid · 05-11-2008, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

...OC claimed he weighed everything...

I'm beginning to question your "credibility"...

The above-captioned statement is completely false. The OEM's are still packed in the boxes from Brembo. I do have a life and a business, and have been unable to set aside the time to weigh them yet as I had hoped.

Just what is your angle here swamp? Are you serious?

If you re-read my post you may notice that the word "feel" is italicized. As a refresher for you, writers will sometimes use italics to put emphasis on a word. You, of all people should realize that "feel from the seat of your pants" and "the real numbers" don't always correspond. This was an initial impression, not a spec or stat.

Let me get the systems weighed before you start the attack. As a reasonable person, I'll wait to see if the weight comparison corroborates/validates my initial impression or not.

swamp2 · 05-11-2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

I'm beginning to question your "credibility"...

The above-captioned statement is completely false. The OEM's are still packed in the boxes from Brembo. I do have a life and a business, and have been unable to set aside the time to weigh them yet as I had hoped.

Just what is your angle here swamp? Are you serious?

If you re-read my post you may notice that the word "feel" is italicized. As a refresher for you, writers will sometimes use italics to put emphasis on a word. You, of all people should realize that "feel from the seat of your pants" and "the real numbers" don't always correspond. This was an initial impression, not a spec or stat.

Let me get the systems weighed before you start the attack. As a reasonable person, I'll wait to see if the weight comparison corroborates/validates my initial impression or not.

Not trying to attack you. My statement should absolutely have been "he will" instead of what I wrote. I suppose my reply to purity above is resonating with you? I know what it is like to have killer new goodies on your ride and to be excited about them. However, it is likely just your state of bliss that is affecting your better judgement. I know all about being busy as I am about the busiest I have been in 15 years right now. We all appreciate the weighing activity, the pics and write up and your impressions of the system.

Eclipsis · 05-12-2008, 01:45 AM

Mark, it looks insane. Nice job.

Greenspotpop · 05-13-2008, 12:39 AM

I just pm'd him lol. I am getting this for sure. Now it is Eisenmann or the Amuse Ericsson exhaust debate.

Do I splurge on the Amuse? Or go Eisenmann SPORT (Dont like the loud DB of the RACE).

In my heart I want the Amuse Ericsson lol, but in my head I should get the Eisenmann.

Ok, which is better? (money is no objection to me)

05-09-2008, 03:44 PM	#1
OC kid Dr. Octagon Drives: SSII e92 m3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,313 iTrader: (0)	First "OFFICIAL" M3 specific Brembo BBK installed I want to thank Jaime, Gary and the whole crew at Brembo for all of their help and support with this project. This is the first kit in N/A to be installed and the first from Brembo made specifically for our M3. IMPRESSIONS: My initial impressions are based on just less than 1000 miles, mixing highway and city driving, and after a proper bedding-in under the supervision of Brembo's product specialist. I am planning on making the trip up at month end to Willow Springs for the upcoming BMWCCA event, so we will have some more impressions, particularly regarding fade, soon. The car does feel quicker overall and I suspect that may be due to the reduction in weight with the swap. I just picked up the OEM brake assembly from Brembo an hour ago. I am fixing to get them weighed here this afternoon to compare to the BBK. I will post the results on lucid's weight reduction thread in the General Forum. Stopping is now entirely different with the Brembos. It is not as sensitive on initial input with the pedal as with the OEM. There now seems to be depth to the braking action which is nicer, giving you more feel. I have had no fade issues as of yet, but haven't taken it to the track either. Stopping power seems limitless. June 1st's upcoming BMWCCA event will bring more insight as I plan on putting them to the test then. Brembo has calculated the heat loads generated on the stock brake system and determined that the 380 x 34 on the front and 380 x 28 on the rear best handle the demands placed on the M3. These, along with stainless steel lines make up the specific kit Brembo has introduced for the car. The kit will fit with the OEM 19" wheels with 3mm clearance (min. req'd) between the closest point of conflict (the wheel balance weight) on the wheel and the caliper. I chose the drilled over the slotted since the car will only be tracked a few times a year initially. As an option, you can select the slotted rotors which provide a more even heat/cooling cycle which track users will prefer. The drilled rotors will tend to cool faster and are generally more suited for street use. ...more to come. ...More info from Gary at Race Technologies...UPDATED 12.08... HERE and HERE __________________ OC kid '08 e92 M3 \| SSII \| RD Sport springs \| VRS CF bootlid \| VRS CF splitter \| VRS CF diffuser \| Brembo BBK \| AFE filter \| Evosport Pulley \| Powerchip Software \| 100 Octane \| Last edited by OC kid; 12-08-2008 at 11:39 PM.

05-09-2008, 03:47 PM	#2
AwesomeM3 Major Drives: E92 M3, E70 X5 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,212 iTrader: (0) View AwesomeM3's Garage	Looks sick! __________________ 2008 E92 M3 Coupe 6MT, Interlagos Blue 2009 E70 X5 xDrive 48i M Sport, Titanium Silver 2001 E46 M3 - Sold \| 1997 E36 M3 - Sold \| BMW CCA member

05-09-2008, 04:40 PM	#4
drZ bimmer newbie Drives: black sapphire e92 July2008 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: ireland Posts: 722 iTrader: (0)	shit man..that must have caused a pretty penny..looking good anyhow ockid.. __________________ you get born into the world you get shit..you work yourself up in the world you get more shit, until at one stage you're so high up in the most rarefied atmosphere that you dont even know how shit looks like..welcome to the layercake of life son..

05-09-2008, 04:40 PM	#5
drsnooz Professor Drives: '09 X5 4.8 M Pkg, '09 E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Viva Las Vegas!!! Posts: 412 iTrader: (1)	Your car looks beautiful! I like the Brembo's. Is it 6 or 8 piston up front? What is the damage $$$? __________________ 2009 E92 Jz Blk, Fox Red ExtendedMods: 20" OZ Ultraleggera w/PZeroH&RspringsAA SSKAFE FilterRPI ScoopsEvosport pulleysRemus raceVRS replica LipTrunk3D DiffuserGP Thunder 8500KLED Interior LightsSS Braided Brake LinesF1 15% TintAluminum PedalsMatte Black Kidney Grill&Side GillMatte Black M3 Logo*Venture Shield Clear Bra.

05-09-2008, 05:15 PM	#6
Epacy Reincarnated Drives: 02 Maxima SE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: IL Posts: 4,217 iTrader: (0) View Epacy's Garage	Lovely and thanks for the information! Need more pics!! Close-ups too. __________________ Pearl Bliss

05-09-2008, 04:30 PM	#3
gadget Major Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,182 iTrader: (0)	OC Kid, Your car just keeps getting nicer and nicer.

05-09-2008, 05:38 PM	#8
WCH Captain Drives: '08 E92 M3 SSII; '10 X5 35d Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 609 iTrader: (0) View WCH's Garage	Your car looks great. Thanks for the info! Agree that a close up would be great too. __________________

05-09-2008, 09:10 PM	#9
OC kid Dr. Octagon Drives: SSII e92 m3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,313 iTrader: (0)	..a couple more close-ups from the file: __________________ OC kid '08 e92 M3 \| SSII \| RD Sport springs \| VRS CF bootlid \| VRS CF splitter \| VRS CF diffuser \| Brembo BBK \| AFE filter \| Evosport Pulley \| Powerchip Software \| 100 Octane \| Last edited by OC kid; 12-08-2008 at 11:22 PM.

05-09-2008, 09:36 PM	#10
kyoshozx Private First Class Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 183 iTrader: (1)	Man those are some nice close ups... Great pics.

05-09-2008, 11:59 PM	#11
edlms Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 149 iTrader: (0)	any clearance issues? you're running the 19"s right? looks like you have plenty of room. thanks... cheers

05-10-2008, 01:44 AM	#12
LittleRocket Private First Class Drives: AW E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SO CAL Posts: 149 iTrader: (0)	Oc Kid, I like your taste. Nice Job __________________

05-10-2008, 01:48 AM	#13
Shade Captain Drives: 08 AW M3 M-DCT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 897 iTrader: (1)	Baller ! I love it, bembo is THE best mod ever ! __________________ 08 E92 M3 AW M-DCT 09 INDxRENN-SPEC Project GT-R

05-10-2008, 02:24 AM	#14
par4bmw Lieutenant Drives: 370Z & My JK Toy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 496 iTrader: (0)	Kudos to you OC Kid on where you have taken your M to. I am not a big mod fan (although a look at my Jeep would make me a liar) but have to say everything you have done from the brakes to the lip are incredible. Glad to hear the performance of the brakes surpass the killer looks.

05-11-2008, 03:18 AM	#18
purity Private First Class Drives: BMW E90 320i "executive" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 171 iTrader: (0) View purity's Garage	Swamp2, I do not know that the OEM M3 brakes HAT are aluminum. I thought they are steel like regular E90 brakes. If the OEM M3 brakes hat are aluminum too, then you are most probably right, and I am wrong. The Bigger Brembo rotor is surely heavier then standard M3 rotors then if both have aluminum hat... __________________ BMW 320i Executive Edition,Italian Made M5 Style Wheels Rear 19x9.5in et28 with 3.5mm spacer+Front 19x9in et37 with 3.5mm spacer,Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3,Rear:275/30/19+Front:235/35/19,Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs,Rolled Fender,BMW 330i Lower Front Grills with Silver Rods,BMW M-Tech Style Front Carbon Fiber Lips,Rear BMW M-Tech Carbon Fiber Rear Deck Spoiler,Custom Left&Right Dual Working Exhaust with Original BMW X5 4.6is Muffler Tips,K&N Drop In Filter,Burl Wood Shift Knob,BMW 330i Multifunction Steering Wheel Retrofit.

05-12-2008, 01:45 AM	#21
Eclipsis Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 M5, 2008 E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 1,988 iTrader: (6)	Mark, it looks insane. Nice job.

05-13-2008, 12:39 AM	#22
Greenspotpop Private First Class Drives: '91 NSX, 04 RX-8 GT, 08 E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 199 iTrader: (1)	I just pm'd him lol. I am getting this for sure. Now it is Eisenmann or the Amuse Ericsson exhaust debate. Do I splurge on the Amuse? Or go Eisenmann SPORT (Dont like the loud DB of the RACE). In my heart I want the Amuse Ericsson lol, but in my head I should get the Eisenmann. Ok, which is better? (money is no objection to me) Last edited by Greenspotpop; 05-13-2008 at 12:40 AM. Reason: spelling