about electing hillary

nyczyang27 · 11-17-2007, 04:54 AM

Does anyone else see how messed up electing Hillary Clinton would be? I am not going into the nuts and bolts of politics or policy. My main concern is this:

George W. Bush - 1989-1993

William J. Clinton - 1993-2001

George H.W. Bush - 2001-2009

(If elected) Hillary Clinton - 2009-2013 or 2017

That basically means that we had the same two families hold the highest office in the nation for approximently 24-28 years. That is just an insane concentration of power.

gonzo · 11-17-2007, 08:57 AM

She gives me the creeps.

Rips335iCoupe · 11-17-2007, 09:57 AM

It only seems fitting .... Clinton is always after 'bush' ...

imolazhp_ci · 11-17-2007, 09:59 AM

yeah... this would definitely solidify our path to an imperial presidency.

darkcloud · 11-17-2007, 12:02 PM

She'll run but she won't win. Unfortunately I don't think our country or the rest of the world is ready for the USA to have a female president. Too many people are still narrow minded. Maybe in another 10-20 years but not now.

///Matt · 11-17-2007, 12:46 PM

It's great how a lot of people are saying it will be Obama and Clinton in the end.... but do you REALLY believe that a black man or a woman will be the next president? I don't believe it. I don't have a problem with a black man or a woman being president, but I just don't think there are enough people in America (who vote) who are ok with it.

darkcloud · 11-17-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Matt

It's great how a lot of people are saying it will be Obama and Clinton in the end.... but do you REALLY believe that a black man or a woman will be the next president? I don't believe it. I don't have a problem with a black man or a woman being president, but I just don't think there are enough people in America (who vote) who are ok with it.

Exactly

dr335is · 11-17-2007, 03:26 PM

I disagree.
Although, that (black, female) will play a role, Bush has drained this country so much and put us 10 years behind, that there is no way that empty headed creep like Guiliani (SP?) will ever win.

On the other hand, other Republican candidates would have better chance, though...

I say we WILL have the first in Jan 2009 -- female (most likely) or a black prez. It will also be very important who's the VP.

fobunited · 11-18-2007, 12:40 AM

I don't think the drain on the Economy can so easily be attributed to Bush as so many people believe and proclaim.

Now I am no Bush supporter or advocate, but it is ridiculous to believe so. Just because the economy was on an upswing during Clinton's years does not mean he can take credit for the economy. In fact, Clinton's administration set up much of the downturn in the economy that we are now seeing.

dr335is · 11-18-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fobunited

I don't think the drain on the Economy can so easily be attributed to Bush as so many people believe and proclaim.

Now I am no Bush supporter or advocate, but it is ridiculous to believe so. Just because the economy was on an upswing during Clinton's years does not mean he can take credit for the economy. In fact, Clinton's administration set up much of the downturn in the economy that we are now seeing.

Economy is cyclical by nature...
But if you put a trillion dollar war on top of it, and if the other nations look at you differently that they used to and get away from your business' -- then, yes, the current admin fucked it up big time.
I said many times -- while other nations progressed in the last 10 years or so -- we did not move fwd a bit...

ianbiz · 11-18-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Matt

It's great how a lot of people are saying it will be Obama and Clinton in the end.... but do you REALLY believe that a black man or a woman will be the next president? I don't believe it. I don't have a problem with a black man or a woman being president, but I just don't think there are enough people in America (who vote) who are ok with it.

I agree. People in this country are too small minded.

imolazhp_ci · 11-18-2007, 04:51 PM

i have no problem with a black man, but i would never have a woman president.

///Matt · 11-18-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dr325i

I disagree.
Although, that (black, female) will play a role, Bush has drained this country so much and put us 10 years behind, that there is no way that empty headed creep like Guiliani (SP?) will ever win.

On the other hand, other Republican candidates would have better chance, though...

I say we WILL have the first in Jan 2009 -- female (most likely) or a black prez. It will also be very important who's the VP.

As always, your stubborn fascination with Bush and how much you hate the country you thrive in irritates me to no end. Will you please open your eyes and realize that you don't know anything about anything? Thanks.

dr335is · 11-18-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Matt

As always, your stubborn fascination with Bush and how much you hate the country you thrive in irritates me to no end. Will you please open your eyes and realize that you don't know anything about anything? Thanks.

Luckily the word comes from a mechanic thinking he knows something.
Go screw yourself moron and kiss your Bush in the ass...
But then, one day when you have kids, you'll realize where you live....

Ahm...or, you could go to school, learn to add, read and so on, then read other educated opinions not only listen to the FOX crap...

dmkaldas · 11-18-2007, 08:18 PM

my uncle used to tell me

no "skirts"

EOE90 · 11-18-2007, 08:37 PM

shes a lez who cares

UncleWede · 11-19-2007, 10:43 AM

I'm non-partisan, and so far she appears to be the best candidate, from what little we have to select from.

!Xoible · 11-19-2007, 10:44 AM

idk... Hilary doesnt seem too comforting.

Im liking both obama, and john edwards right now

dr335is · 11-19-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mantis

idk... Hilary doesnt seem too comforting.

Im liking both obama, and john edwards right now

Edwards is so fake and plastic... I don't trust him and definitely blame him for having a lunatic in the office for the second term...

I like Obama, but he's inexperienced. Coachable though as we've seen as the debates progress.

Still, I do believe that Hilary looks sharp, smart and very experienced on ALL subjects -- very solid.

As for Republicans, I'd like to see anyone bu Guilliani run. He's realized that he's done exactly what anyone else in the office would have done on 9/11/01 so, he's trying to show his other good sides -- which don't exist...

Crimson92 · 11-19-2007, 12:33 PM

Id vote for Hilary, just to see slick willy for another few years... He kicks ass

ATG · 11-19-2007, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mantis

idk... Hilary doesnt seem too comforting.

Im liking both obama, and john edwards right now

I wouldn't vote for a trial lawyer.

LambOfGod · 11-19-2007, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr325i

Luckily the word comes from a mechanic thinking he knows something.
Go screw yourself moron and kiss your Bush in the ass...
But then, one day when you have kids, you'll realize where you live....

Ahm...or, you could go to school, learn to add, read and so on, then read other educated opinions not only listen to the FOX crap...

Very Harsh!

Debate don't berate. I see this kind of anger from Dems all the time. Don't understand it.

11-17-2007, 04:54 AM	#1
nyczyang27 Second Lieutenant Drives: z4 3.0si / 328xi Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 267 iTrader: (0)	about electing hillary Does anyone else see how messed up electing Hillary Clinton would be? I am not going into the nuts and bolts of politics or policy. My main concern is this: George W. Bush - 1989-1993 William J. Clinton - 1993-2001 George H.W. Bush - 2001-2009 (If elected) Hillary Clinton - 2009-2013 or 2017 That basically means that we had the same two families hold the highest office in the nation for approximently 24-28 years. That is just an insane concentration of power. __________________ 2007 Z4 3.0si Step/Premium/Xenon/HeatedSeats/AutoTop/M6Wheels 2007 328xi Step/Premium/Sport/Xenon
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gonzo Brigadier General Drives: as many as possible Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TeXXXas Posts: 4,753 iTrader: (0)	She gives me the creeps. __________________ Crazy Diamond

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darkcloud Colonel Drives: 09 VW JSW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cleveland, oh Posts: 2,386 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	She'll run but she won't win. Unfortunately I don't think our country or the rest of the world is ready for the USA to have a female president. Too many people are still narrow minded. Maybe in another 10-20 years but not now. __________________ retired 06 E90 325i New: 09 VW Platinum Grey Jetta Sportwagen 2.0T SEL w/DSG, panoramic sunroof and Ipod adapter

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11-17-2007, 09:57 AM	#3
Rips335iCoupe Banned Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 947 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 335i Coupe [0.00]	It only seems fitting .... Clinton is always after 'bush' ...

11-17-2007, 09:59 AM	#4
imolazhp_ci Major Drives: Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: orange county Posts: 1,002 iTrader: (0)	yeah... this would definitely solidify our path to an imperial presidency.

11-17-2007, 12:46 PM	#6
///Matt United States Marine Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,749 iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	It's great how a lot of people are saying it will be Obama and Clinton in the end.... but do you REALLY believe that a black man or a woman will be the next president? I don't believe it. I don't have a problem with a black man or a woman being president, but I just don't think there are enough people in America (who vote) who are ok with it.

11-17-2007, 03:26 PM	#8
dr335is Brigadier General Drives: GTI Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,878 iTrader: (4)	I disagree. Although, that (black, female) will play a role, Bush has drained this country so much and put us 10 years behind, that there is no way that empty headed creep like Guiliani (SP?) will ever win. On the other hand, other Republican candidates would have better chance, though... I say we WILL have the first in Jan 2009 -- female (most likely) or a black prez. It will also be very important who's the VP.

11-18-2007, 12:40 AM	#9
fobunited Private First Class Drives: 2007 335i, 2011 550i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Folsom Posts: 184 iTrader: (1)	I don't think the drain on the Economy can so easily be attributed to Bush as so many people believe and proclaim. Now I am no Bush supporter or advocate, but it is ridiculous to believe so. Just because the economy was on an upswing during Clinton's years does not mean he can take credit for the economy. In fact, Clinton's administration set up much of the downturn in the economy that we are now seeing.

11-18-2007, 04:51 PM	#12
imolazhp_ci Major Drives: Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: orange county Posts: 1,002 iTrader: (0)	i have no problem with a black man, but i would never have a woman president.

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dmkaldas Rollin 3rd Drives: Something fast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chino Hills Posts: 1,018 iTrader: (13)	my uncle used to tell me no "skirts"

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UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner Drives: E90 325i Arctic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 2,245 iTrader: (0)	I'm non-partisan, and so far she appears to be the best candidate, from what little we have to select from.

11-19-2007, 10:44 AM	#18
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