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      04-24-2008, 12:35 PM   #23
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okay i like to believe you are smarter than exhaust designers. if u dont think so please do not correct me

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      04-24-2008, 02:38 PM   #24
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Didn't they promote the guy a year or so back
Yes. Some call it the "Peter Principle".
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lol i have no idea why u guys are bothered. i dont mind half the fucking engine hanging out of the hood.... it looks fucking perfect to me... i still jack off to my car
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      04-24-2008, 02:55 PM   #26
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Didn't they promote the guy a year or so back
Actually, it was 2004 when he was "promoted" to the newly created post of Director of BMW Group Design, an executive position distanced from the design floor. He has no direct styling reponsibility for BMW future models. He seems to have trained Adrian Van Hooydonk, the current design director, pretty well.
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I'm not bothered much by the sight of my muffler. I guess it would have been nicer if it was concealed, but it doesn't bother me.
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Actually, it was 2004 when he was "promoted" to the newly created post of Director of BMW Group Design, an executive position distanced from the design floor. He has no direct styling reponsibility for BMW future models. He seems to have trained Adrian Van Hooydonk, the current design director, pretty well.
Yes, his legacy lives on.
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lol i have no idea why u guys are bothered. i dont mind half the fucking engine hanging out of the hood.... it looks fucking perfect to me... i still jack off to my car
That's going to help resale someday...
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Hell, without him we never would of had cars with the "Bangle Butt". lol
You mean the inverted bath tub stuck at the rear of the 7-series? Yeah, that's him!

And, when speaking to the media, he claims, by cooking up shit like that, he was single-handedly "revolutionized" car design at a global scale. Modest fellow, this guy is.
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You mean the inverted bath tub stuck at the rear of the 7-series? Yeah, that's him!
That was actually Hooydonk's first design with BMW.
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That was actually Hooydonk's first design with BMW.
How is that possible? I am referring to the 7-series platform that was released in 2002. Wasn't Bangle chief designer during the development of that model?
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How is that possible? I am referring to the 7-series platform that was released in 2002. Wasn't Bangle chief designer during the development of that model?
Bangle was the design director, but it was Van Hooydonk's design:

"Not many people have produced a car design that shook the world, but Dutchman Adrian Van Hooydonk did with his 2001 7 Series. At the time, he was director of BMW's California car studio and product design consultancy, Designworks."

http://www.motortrend.com/features/c...n_hooydonk_bmw
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Bangle was the design director, but it was Van Hooydonk's design:

"Not many people have produced a car design that shook the world, but Dutchman Adrian Van Hooydonk did with his 2001 7 Series. At the time, he was director of BMW's California car studio and product design consultancy, Designworks."

http://www.motortrend.com/features/c...n_hooydonk_bmw
Well, I don't know, if he was chief designer, he had a lot to do with it. It's not as if the chief designer sees the designs a few weeks before release and simply signs off on them. The chief designer selects the designer, and that choice itself is highly consequential. Then, there are all sorts of interactions and associated infuences. That magnititude of a project is not executed without serious input and direction from the chief designer.
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The exposed muffler is growing on me...the gritty rawness of it...
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Well, I don't know, if he was chief designer, he had a lot to do with it. It's not as if the chief designer sees the designs a few weeks before release and simply signs off on them. The chief designer selects the designer, and that choice itself is highly consequential. Then, there are all sorts of interactions and associated infuences. That magnititude of a project is not executed without serious input and direction from the chief designer.
Agree, Bangle had a big part. Ultimately, though, "Van Hooydonk butt" was just too hard for most people to say!
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Ultimately, though, "Van Hooydonk butt" was just too hard for most people to say!


I'll practice that in my free time...
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you guys know that the "bangle or Van Hooydonk" Butt appeared first on Hyundais.
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you guys know that the "bangle or Van Hooydonk" Butt appeared first on Hyundais.
That must be the beginnings of the global dimension Bangle has been referencing then!
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the crappy muffler has to go - -cannot have a "MIDAS" ad sticking out of a $70K+ car...will be painting it flat black.
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That must be the beginnings of the global dimension Bangle has been referencing then!
lol

If you google or cardomain search 1999 Hyundai Sonata you can see, I believe other Hyundais had it too before it appeared on the 7 series and Maybach/S classes...
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Agree, Bangle had a big part. Ultimately, though, "Van Hooydonk butt" was just too hard for most people to say!

right and Bangled sounds so much like bungled that they have become synonmous.
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