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      04-21-2008, 03:32 PM   #1
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New Hyundai Genesis Coupe Is Going To Be Buff

So I know you guys are going to think im nuts, but I have been reading up on this car as it caught my attention. Note I wouldn't replace my 335i with it... I just think for the money and if your looking for a tuner car for track / drift this car might turn out to be awesome.

I was reading Car and Driver and they had an article on the car and revealed something that I found VERY interesting. The car;s motor is a 2.0L alum turbocharged / intercooled set up. It was developed as part of the global development program that the new Evo X's 2.0L is derived from and the new Dodge Caliber's 2.4L. The guys a Hyundai told C&D that they left the HP rating at 212 not to kill V6 sales but that they left room for tunners as the motor can handle up to 29psi in stock form (can some one say mitsu's 4g63???)

The article also went in to say they benchmarked the chassis off the E46 M3 and said that they manged to make it stiffer then the E46.

Some of the stock options include 4 piston Brembo, and a torsen limited slip.

Weight will be a little bit of an issue as it tips the scales at 3400ish

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      04-21-2008, 03:54 PM   #2
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i thought it was a v8??
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i thought it was a v8??
They said the V8 from the sedan wouldn't fit in the coupe. It was in some thread a few weeks ago.

I'm glad they made such a capable engine, but i'm not sure it's going to be such a blast to drive. High boost on small engines just feels so laggy when it calls for a big turbo...which isn't that bad on a evo that weighs around 3000 pounds... on a 3400 pound car? Not so much. Either way, i'm really hoping it makes for a real nice ride. I've been a hyundai fan for a while now. So i'm hoping they back up all my "Hyundai is the next honda" claims
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They said the V8 from the sedan wouldn't fit in the coupe. It was in some thread a few weeks ago.

I'm glad they made such a capable engine, but i'm not sure it's going to be such a blast to drive. High boost on small engines just feels so laggy when it calls for a big turbo...which isn't that bad on a evo that weighs around 3000 pounds... on a 3400 pound car? Not so much. Either way, i'm really hoping it makes for a real nice ride. I've been a hyundai fan for a while now. So i'm hoping they back up all my "Hyundai is the next honda" claims
Evo IX weights in at 3200
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Nice car. Design isnt at all original. But RWD, cheap and turbo motor that apparently is a tuners dream.

It will sell well. From reading this alone im thinking about test driving a 2.0 turbo when they are out.
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I don't believe they will be offering the sport trim on the turbo-4. The tuner setup that everyone is referring to might be limited if the LSD and upgraded brakes/suspension are available only with the V6.

Of course the hard core tuning crowd would be making suspension changes anyway. But most people are less likely to try and add the LSD.
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LSD is for sure an option of the 2.0L T .... Im not a 100% on the brakes thou.
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I don't believe they will be offering the sport trim on the turbo-4. The tuner setup that everyone is referring to might be limited if the LSD and upgraded brakes/suspension are available only with the V6.

Of course the hard core tuning crowd would be making suspension changes anyway. But most people are less likely to try and add the LSD.
Hyundai is offering every option available to both the 2.0T and v6.

Hyundai really wants to get the tuner crowd with this car. That is part of the appeal to me actually. The 2.0T will start at around 19,000 and will probably be at around mid 20s with everything. If this car is really tunable to 29 psi on stock block without much work being done to internals. Than this car will be the next Supra.

From what im hearing, Hyundai was very pissed off at the remark made in the last fast and the furious movie. And are trying to get the young generation market.

Hyundai is supposedly trying very hard to get into Formula 1 by the time S. Korea gets their race. And i believe are also working on a Performance parts section.

This isnt the same old hyundai anymore.
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Sounds like a pretty sick little car so far. Doesn't look to bad either. It will be a great value. I just can't see myself driving a hyundai unfortunately.
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I feel like they should have created a different brand for these Genesis models. People will pay up for something new and great that no one's heard of, but they'll run from the same car with a Hyundai badge stamped on it. Pretty sad but thats just the reality of brand perception.
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Hyundai is gunning to be the new Toyota ... and I think its only by producing cars like this that they will accomplish it. I have a feeling this car will turn a lot of people on to the brand.
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i hope this car can force the japanese brand to realize the reality that their sport car market is no longer competitive and hope soon they will release something that's affordable + tunable.

I wish i was born in the rx-7 / supra / NSX / gtr r32 / Celica GTS AWD turbo era.

those were the sweet old days
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Here's some chops in all sorts of colors, with drop and wheels.

http://www.genfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14

I think it's got some real potential. I'd take one in the concept colors/scheme (orange/black)!
I'm definitely into this car, especially a turbo 4 cylinder little rocket.
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I would never drive a car made in Korea... Kia, Hyundai, Daewoo, etc...

I like Samsung and LG (for electronics) though... but that's about it.
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I would never drive a car made in Korea... Kia, Hyundai, Daewoo, etc...

I like Samsung and LG (for electronics) though... but that's about it.
Well, what the point of you saying this? It's like me saying I'll never talk to ignorant idiot... oh wait...
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Here's some chops in all sorts of colors, with drop and wheels.

http://www.genfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14

I think it's got some real potential. I'd take one in the concept colors/scheme (orange/black)!
I'm definitely into this car, especially a turbo 4 cylinder little rocket.
Looks pretty hot!
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Well, what the point of you saying this? It's like me saying I'll never talk to ignorant idiot... oh wait...
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Well, what the point of you saying this? It's like me saying I'll never talk to ignorant idiot... oh wait...
ignorant or not... but cars made in korea haven't really EVER been considered a car worth keeping/driving/buying... don't think they have ever been favored or had the reputation of being a classy/sporty car.

so how is it ignorant? I know they make sub-par vehicles, I am just voicing my opinions on their brand. I don't remember the last time a Korean made vehicle won any sort of award... but if they have, then I apologize for being ignorant.
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ignorant or not... but cars made in korea haven't really EVER been considered a car worth keeping/driving/buying... don't think they have ever been favored or had the reputation of being a classy/sporty car.

so how is it ignorant? I know they make sub-par vehicles, I am just voicing my opinions on their brand. I don't remember the last time a Korean made vehicle won any sort of award... but if they have, then I apologize for being ignorant.
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don't think they have ever been favored or had the reputation of being a classy/sporty car.

so how is it ignorant? I know they make sub-par vehicles, I am just voicing my opinions on their brand. I don't remember the last time a Korean made vehicle won any sort of award... but if they have, then I apologize for being ignorant.
In that case, you are DEFINITELY ignorant, because:

1. You need to do a research.
2. You need to do a search.
3. You need to keep up with the market, and read more news & magazines.

And you will understand why. Hyundai already got multiple awards and received many positive statements and recommandation honors from MANY different sources.

Can't believe it? Here are FEW examples.

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Mar 17, 08
Veracruz Earns Winter Vehicle Award From NEMPA

Sep 05, 07
Hyundai Wins Four AutoPacific 2007 Ideal Vehicle Awards

Feb 14, 07
Hyundai Accent and Elantra Earn 'Greenest Vehicles of 2007' Honors

Apr 10, 01
Hyundai Motor America Honored With J.D. Power and Associates 'Chairman's Award'

Feb 08, 07
Hyundai Wins MotorWeek Award for 'Best Minivan'

Jan 07, 08
Hyundai Entourage grabs prestigious Editors in chief Pick Award at Chicago Auto show 2007

Jan 07, 08
Hyundai/Kia Sedona grabs MotorWeek Drivers Pick Award at Chicago Auto show 2007

Jun 07, 06
Hyundai is the Highest Ranked Non-Premium Nameplate in the J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study

Apr 30, 01
Hyundai Santa Fe Rated Top Compact SUV In Vehicle Satisfaction Index

Feb 05, 08
Hyundai Veracruz Earns 'Best New Family Vehicle' Honors

Dec 05, 06
Hyundai Santa Fe Wins 'Best SUV of the Year' in Autobytel's 2007 Editors' Choice Awards

Oct 10, 06
Hyundai Azera and Tucson Named Best-in-Segment in Strategic Vision 2006 Total Value Awards

Apr 18, 06
All-New 2007 Hyundai Entourage Earns the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's TOP SAFETY PICK Award

Nov 08, 05
Sobre Ruedas Magazine Names Hyundai Sonata 'Best Sedan 2005 Award Winner'

May 05, 03
Hyundai Elantra Earns AutoPacific's Vehicle Satisfaction Award in the Compact Car Category

Feb 05, 01
Hyundai Motor Company Chairman Mong-Koo Chung Given Automotive Hall of Fame Award

June 29, 06
Hyundai Azera takes top J.D. power Big-Car Award

2004
Hyundai Sonata was awarded top entry midsize car by J.D. Power and Associates 2004 Initial Quality Study(IQS).

2002
Hyundai ranking 3rd in reliability rankings, behind Toyota and Honda.

2004
Hyundai Beats Toyota in New Consumer Reports Survey and Last J. D. Power Initial Quality Study.
Toyota, the worlds most profitable automaker, are experiencing greater concerns over South Koreas Hyundai than classic rivals Honda and Nissan.
I got that from spending 10 MIN @ google. Sorry its not in chronological order. I just copy-n-pasted whatever I saw, and decided to stop when I was finally getting tired of it. There are PLENTY MORE, and based on what I've seen/read, there are COUNTLESS compliments regarding hyundai vehicles from MAJOR sources. Hyundai right now is not the hyundai 10 years ago. They have been constantly getting nearly full 4, 5 stars for safety ratings for many of their vehicles, getting top/recommandation/editor's choice picks, goes on and on.

Congratulation, because of your ignorance and absence of knowledge, many will think of you as an ignorant including me.
All you had to do was work on a quick 5 min research on google before you put words into your mouth.
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personally, I think Hyundai has a very long way to go before they can compare themselves to Toyota

but I'm happy to see them advancing in the industry
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