Sportauto: E90 M3 vs C63

southlight · 03-30-2008, 10:35 AM

Here is some data from the latest Sportauto comparson between E90 M3 and C63:
The C63 had the performance package incl. LSD, neither was on UHP tires.

E90 M3 - C63

0-100kph: 4.9s - 4.4s
0-200kph: 16.3s - 14.0s

Hockenheim: 1:15.2 - 1:15.2

18 meter slalom: 68.2 kph - 66.0 kph

Braking distance (100kph): 36.7/33.8m - 36.6/35.3m

Fuel consumption: 16.4l - 21.2l

Best regards, south

ybbiz34 · 03-30-2008, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

Here is some data from the latest Sportauto comparson between E90 M3 and C63:
The C63 had the performance package incl. LSD, neither was on UHP tires.

M3 - E90

0-100kph: 4.9s - 4.4s
0-200kph: 16.3s - 14.0s

Hockenheim: 1:15.2 - 1:15.2

18 meter slalom: 68.2 kph - 66.0 kph

Braking distance (100kph): 36.7/33.8m - 36.6/35.3m

Fuel consumption: 16.4l - 21.2l

Best regards, south

Which side is which? At the top it says M3 - E90?

southlight · 03-30-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Which side is which? At the top it says M3 - E90?

Oops, my bad. Fixed.

Best regards, south

ybbiz34 · 03-30-2008, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

Oops, my bad. Fixed.

Best regards, south

Thanks!

gorun · 03-30-2008, 12:51 PM

That C63 200 time is pretty deadly

Garissimo · 03-30-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gorun

That C63 200 time is pretty deadly

It would also appear that the LSD really helps the handling as all other heads-up track tests put the M3 well ahead of the C63 not equipped with it.

gorun · 03-30-2008, 03:28 PM

Whats the conclusion of the test?

southlight · 03-30-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gorun

Whats the conclusion of the test?

They were impressed by the C63's performance. The performance package helps the C63 to be on par in Hockenheim, what says something. They liked the exhaust note of the C63 more than the M3's (atleast under 6k rpm). In the end the M3 won by some points, though.

Best regards, south

footie · 03-30-2008, 04:26 PM

Was this the same issue that had the RS6 vs M5?

Krueger///M3 · 03-30-2008, 04:27 PM

4.9 is slow, car and driver just got 4.1 for the E90

southlight · 03-30-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by footie

Was this the same issue that had the RS6 vs M5?

Yes.
BTW: It wasn't really RS6 vs M5, just an RS6 test with reference to the M5's results.

Best regards, south

OzStriker · 03-30-2008, 06:39 PM

So a fair comparison will be M3 vs C63+performance package, wonder what the cost comparison will be with this spec?

That fuel economy is getting silly with the C63.

OzCarfreak · 03-30-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Krueger///M3

4.9 is slow, car and driver just got 4.1 for the E90

no way its doing 4.1 that is a dream my friend

OzStriker · 03-30-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OzCarfreak

no way its doing 4.1 that is a dream my friend

Road & Track and Car & Driver have measured 4.1s.

Here is the datasheet:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d..._datapanel.pdf

P.S. 0-60 is over rated

- I know you agree

MTrizzy · 03-30-2008, 10:26 PM

to be fair... 100 kph = 62.1371192 mph.

And Im looking at my Sep 2007 C&D and it states 4.4...was the M3 tested again recently?

agree with you about the 0-60 being over rated.

ybbiz34 · 03-30-2008, 10:28 PM

Hockenheim: 1:15.2 - 1:15.2

C63 holding its own...

gorun · 03-31-2008, 02:25 AM

Most striking is the C63 0-200 @ 14 flat. Audi quotes 14.9 for the new RS6 avant!!!

OzStriker · 03-31-2008, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MTrizzy

And Im looking at my Sep 2007 C&D and it states 4.4...was the M3 tested again recently?

I think the E90 was tested recently, see below:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130182

Just_me · 03-31-2008, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Hockenheim: 1:15.2 - 1:15.2

C63 holding its own...

Its the first time it been even between M3 and C63 on a track. Every other test done on a track, the M3 has been faster, in fact by several seconds in a couple of comparisons. I guess there is a first time for everything.

Too bad Mercedes had to make the suspension so stiff, that is the complain C63 has been getting in reviews.

M3 DCT is going to improve the laptime. Im looking forward for the N-ring test with M3 DCT.

OzCarfreak · 03-31-2008, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gorun

Most striking is the C63 0-200 @ 14 flat. Audi quotes 14.9 for the new RS6 avant!!!

yeah buts its heavier why wouldnt it - the rs6 wasnt built to beat the c63- its a massive 4 car, c63 is small in comparison.

OzCarfreak · 03-31-2008, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Its the first time it been even between M3 and C63 on a track. Every other test done on a track, the M3 has been faster, in fact by several seconds in a couple of comparisons. I guess there is a first time for everything.

Too bad Mercedes had to make the suspension so stiff, that is the complain C63 has been getting in reviews.

M3 DCT is going to improve the laptime. Im looking forward for the N-ring test with M3 DCT.

IMO stiff suspension is better than soft

Just_me · 03-31-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OzCarfreak

IMO stiff suspension is better than soft

I like stiff suspension. But I still would MB to offer EDC for C63. Its better to decide the stiffness on your own.
Luckily BMW offer this for M3.

03-30-2008, 10:35 AM	#1
southlight Moderator / European Editor Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6,333 iTrader: (0)	Sportauto: E90 M3 vs C63 Here is some data from the latest Sportauto comparson between E90 M3 and C63: The C63 had the performance package incl. LSD, neither was on UHP tires. E90 M3 - C63 0-100kph: 4.9s - 4.4s 0-200kph: 16.3s - 14.0s Hockenheim: 1:15.2 - 1:15.2 18 meter slalom: 68.2 kph - 66.0 kph Braking distance (100kph): 36.7/33.8m - 36.6/35.3m Fuel consumption: 16.4l - 21.2l Best regards, south __________________ THE NEW BMW F30 3 SERIES ALL INFORMATION, PHOTOS, VIDEOS Join the 6MT Club group Last edited by southlight; 03-30-2008 at 12:10 PM.
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gorun Lieutenant Drives: E92 AW DCT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Across the Wall Posts: 428 iTrader: (0)	That C63 200 time is pretty deadly

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gorun Lieutenant Drives: E92 AW DCT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Across the Wall Posts: 428 iTrader: (0)	Whats the conclusion of the test?

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footie Major General Drives: ???????????? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: BMW M3 will get a V6TT Posts: 7,519 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [0.00]	Was this the same issue that had the RS6 vs M5?

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ybbiz34 Moderator Drives: 2010 BMW xDrive 335i Sedan Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 2,594 iTrader: (0)	Hockenheim: 1:15.2 - 1:15.2 C63 holding its own...

03-31-2008, 02:25 AM	#17
gorun Lieutenant Drives: E92 AW DCT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Across the Wall Posts: 428 iTrader: (0)	Most striking is the C63 0-200 @ 14 flat. Audi quotes 14.9 for the new RS6 avant!!!