And the wait is now over - Page 2

ersin · 03-29-2008, 06:09 PM

Congratulations! And thanks for the feedback. We're all living vicariously through you, can't wait till break-in is over. Enjoy.

Hops099 · 03-29-2008, 06:20 PM

Congrats... that is one gorgeous ride!

Keto · 03-29-2008, 06:30 PM

Daddy wants DCT NOW /cry

lucid · 03-29-2008, 06:32 PM

Congrats!

par4bmw · 03-29-2008, 06:38 PM

Congrats and thanks for the DCT review.

Be sure to keep us updated as you get to really experience it.

mdrobc13 · 03-29-2008, 07:41 PM

Congrats SMSgt B. Enjoy her and thanks for the write up. If you don't mind can you give us a few words on the premium sound! Am on the fence between it and regular HiFi audio.

Thanks.

asaulo1 · 03-29-2008, 08:07 PM

COngrats.. it's good to finally get a member's review of the m-dct

the_stranger · 03-29-2008, 08:11 PM

Wow, congrats on you new car. I didnt know M-DCT is out yet.

Call your dealer and tell him to check for or order parts that are needed for the first service. See my thread
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129794

swamp2 · 03-29-2008, 08:27 PM

Unbelievable. Congrats. My predicitons that there must be a BMW/magazine/trade review before that of an owner was absolutely incorrect. As cool as this is and as great as it is for you, it is a big mistake on BMWs behalf. -1 for BMW marketing.

Congrats as well for using discretion and taking it easy on the car. We won't know the secrets of M-DCT and the peformance possibilities until someone describes the WOT, redline 1-2 shift in S6.

Until then get your a$$ on the road and get those break in miles done ASAP!! Were have all waited way too long for the details!

One thing I don't understand: It sounds like you found that settings other than throttle and drivelogic settings affect the agressiveness/performance/jerk etc. You mentioned both the EDC and Power settings. It seems very improbable to me that these affect anything with the M-DCT. Again could be the whole nature of the car changes (which is definitely can) and this affects your perception of the transmission.

Congrats again, thanks for sharing and for our daily dose. Sharing your excitement on this has been the highlight of my time here on the forum in a real long time.

lucid · 03-29-2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMSgt B

2. So, is there a delay in shifting? Yes, but let me explain. Depending on what settings you have it set to and how aggressive you are accelerating will dictate the amount of delay. For instance, when I was in manual mode, no EDC/Power and softest, the delay was greater than if I just adjusted it to the stiffest setting or got more aggressive with the gas pedal. Driving in this setting is like when you are driving a manual and just take you time to shift. Now EDC/Power on and stiffest setting is another story. Yes there is still a very slight delay but it is almost right at the release time it changes gears. Now the delay I am talking about is the time you release the paddle/shifter to the time you feel the next gear engage. Also, remember I was only doing 1/2 throttle under 5500rpm shifts.

Upon more careful consideration of your initial post above, your experience around "delay", in principle, sounds very similar to my experience with the R32 DSG transmission. When driving with relatively tame inputs, the delay was there during upshifts, and I hypothesized that this is because the computer selects the lower of the gears associated with the other clutch since that is where the power is if one needs power at that point. I then went back and drove the thing much more aggressively, and as you are hypothesizing, the delay goes away at higher rpms under hard acceleration as the computer knows you will need to shift up and selects the higher gear for the other clutch. It'll be interesting if that turns out to be the case when you test the car with more aggressive inputs after the break in. Regardless, DCT sounds superior to DSG in that is has additional parameters that can be adjusted, which help the computer predict the next gear change more accurately.

skierman64 · 03-29-2008, 10:55 PM

Senior B, Congrats on the first customer owned DCT car in the world. You the man. Thanks for the write up and please continue to give us updates as you drive it more.

jtown · 03-29-2008, 11:10 PM

Go out and get over 1.2k miles then JAM the gas pedal and give us a review. =)

Shade · 03-29-2008, 11:30 PM

congratz. now i cant wait for my own DCT.

SMSgt B · 03-30-2008, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldminer

This may sound dumb but I forgot to look when I sat in the car at the dealer. Does it have cruise control? That would at least help with "speed creep" on long trips and might save some tickets.

Yes...it does have cruise control

SMSgt B · 03-30-2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bills742

Congratulations! There are a lot of us very jealous of you right now! One quick question, can you turn the "creep" function off so the car doesn't inch forward if you don't press the gas? And if so, does the car roll back when on a hill? Thanks for your write up and enjoy her for us!

I will look in the settings to see if you can stop the "creep". Also, I will put it on a hill today and see if it does indeed roll back after the 2-3 seconds that it does hold.

e36jakeo · 03-30-2008, 12:48 AM

Congrats! Can't wait to hear how it does when you are beating on it!

gorun · 03-30-2008, 12:52 AM

Congrats to the first DCT owner! Man, get out and drive some more and come back and write. Do it for the DCT community. Do what BMW and the motoring press owes us and havent done! And get those miles on them autobahns.

gorun · 03-30-2008, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid

Upon more careful consideration of your initial post above, your experience around "delay", in principle, sounds very similar to my experience with the R32 DSG transmission. When driving with relatively tame inputs, the delay was there during upshifts, and I hypothesized that this is because the computer selects the lower of the gears associated with the other clutch since that is where the power is if one needs power at that point. I then went back and drove the thing much more aggressively, and as you are hypothesizing, the delay goes away at higher rpms under hard acceleration as the computer knows you will need to shift up and selects the higher gear for the other clutch. It'll be interesting if that turns out to be the case when you test the car with more aggressive inputs after the break in. Regardless, DCT sounds superior to DSG in that is has additional parameters that can be adjusted, which help the computer predict the next gear change more accurately.

Agree

Jack28 · 03-30-2008, 02:13 AM

CONGRATS! Been waiting on this Review! This is a Big thing for me as Im doing
the Change from 6MT from my E46 M3 to M-DCT on my New E92 M3!

Thanks for the Review and KEEP US POSTED!!!!!!!

apw2607 · 03-30-2008, 02:23 AM

Yes, congrats and thanks for taking the time out to write up a review and take some pics.

BTW ... does your owner guide cover the M-DCT? Anything interesting to report? Does it cover LC for example?

Thanks.

Bdez · 03-30-2008, 04:53 AM

Finally - it lives - looks great and trust you enjoy it

kbk_75 · 03-30-2008, 06:16 AM

Congrats on the new car and being the first with DCT on the board! Your interior contrast also really looks awesome! Enjoy running her in, and please post some video once you're done with the first service and car start to push her a bit!

03-29-2008, 06:09 PM	#23
ersin Brigadier General Drives: 08 IB E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,571 iTrader: (1)	Congratulations! And thanks for the feedback. We're all living vicariously through you, can't wait till break-in is over. Enjoy. __________________ I've been assimilated. 6MT/ZPP/18"/PS extended.

03-29-2008, 06:20 PM	#24
Hops099 New Member Drives: 2011 E90 M3, Jet Black Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 21 iTrader: (0)	Congrats... that is one gorgeous ride! __________________ 2006 330i, Sparkling Graphite, Sport Package /// 2005 Mini Cooper Convertible, Red w/ White Bonnet Stripes/Union Jack Wing Mirrors

03-29-2008, 06:30 PM	#25
Keto Major Drives: 550i M-sport AW Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: N'awlins Posts: 1,090 iTrader: (1)	Daddy wants DCT NOW /cry __________________ '11 550i, pics soon

03-29-2008, 06:32 PM	#26
lucid Major General Drives: E30 M3; Expedition Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 8,037 iTrader: (0)	Congrats! __________________

03-29-2008, 07:41 PM	#28
mdrobc13 Major Drives: '12 BMW 550i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: On a base somewhere near or afar! Posts: 1,414 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2012 BMW 550i [5.00]	Congrats SMSgt B. Enjoy her and thanks for the write up. If you don't mind can you give us a few words on the premium sound! Am on the fence between it and regular HiFi audio. Thanks. __________________ '12 F10 550i (DGM-II - Dinan Stage 4/Intercoolers & Shockware, H&R Springs, Eisenmann Race Exhaust, Hamman CF rear difuser, Giovanni "Lindo" Graphite 20") '10 e71 X6 35iDrive SAV (Space Gray) - Gone '06 e85 Z4 M Roadster (Black Metallic) -Gone '08 e92 M3 coupe (Sparkling Graphite) -Gone

03-29-2008, 06:38 PM	#27
par4bmw Lieutenant Drives: 370Z & My JK Toy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 494 iTrader: (0)	Congrats and thanks for the DCT review. Be sure to keep us updated as you get to really experience it.

03-29-2008, 08:07 PM	#29
asaulo1 Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 Coupe, alp white Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Clarita, CA. Posts: 565 iTrader: (0)	COngrats.. it's good to finally get a member's review of the m-dct

03-29-2008, 08:11 PM	#30
the_stranger Captain Drives: e92 M3 6MT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 927 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 Coupe [0.00]	Wow, congrats on you new car. I didnt know M-DCT is out yet. Call your dealer and tell him to check for or order parts that are needed for the first service. See my thread http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129794 __________________ 2008 e92 M3 6MT AW/BLACK (SOLD) 2009 e92 M3 6MT AW/FR

03-29-2008, 08:27 PM	#31
swamp2 Major General Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 8,378 iTrader: (1)	Unbelievable. Congrats. My predicitons that there must be a BMW/magazine/trade review before that of an owner was absolutely incorrect. As cool as this is and as great as it is for you, it is a big mistake on BMWs behalf. -1 for BMW marketing. Congrats as well for using discretion and taking it easy on the car. We won't know the secrets of M-DCT and the peformance possibilities until someone describes the WOT, redline 1-2 shift in S6. Until then get your a$$ on the road and get those break in miles done ASAP!! Were have all waited way too long for the details! One thing I don't understand: It sounds like you found that settings other than throttle and drivelogic settings affect the agressiveness/performance/jerk etc. You mentioned both the EDC and Power settings. It seems very improbable to me that these affect anything with the M-DCT. Again could be the whole nature of the car changes (which is definitely can) and this affects your perception of the transmission. Congrats again, thanks for sharing and for our daily dose. Sharing your excitement on this has been the highlight of my time here on the forum in a real long time.

03-29-2008, 10:55 PM	#33
skierman64 Brigadier General Drives: 2008 E92 Space Gray M3 & E36M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greater St Louis Metro area Posts: 3,069 iTrader: (1) Garage List 1998 M3 Coupe [0.00] 2008 M3 Coupe [0.00]	Senior B, Congrats on the first customer owned DCT car in the world. You the man. Thanks for the write up and please continue to give us updates as you drive it more. __________________ Get a professional motorsports full featured stopwatch app for your Blackberry here: http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/19464 Invest Wisely...The best mod for your money?? BMWCCA high performance driver's school. The mod that lasts a lifetime and improves the performance of any car you drive

03-29-2008, 11:10 PM	#34
jtown Lieutenant Drives: TBD Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norcal Posts: 596 iTrader: (0)	Go out and get over 1.2k miles then JAM the gas pedal and give us a review. =)

03-29-2008, 11:30 PM	#35
Shade Captain Drives: 12 AW F10 M5 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago / Hong Kong Posts: 900 iTrader: (1)	congratz. now i cant wait for my own DCT. __________________ 08 E92 M3 AW M-DCT 09 INDxRENN-SPEC Project GT-R

03-30-2008, 12:48 AM	#38
e36jakeo Captain Drives: 2008 M3 6 Speed MT! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern CA Posts: 620 iTrader: (0)	Congrats! Can't wait to hear how it does when you are beating on it! __________________ Driving sideways: It's not faster, but damn it's more fun!

03-30-2008, 12:52 AM	#39
gorun Lieutenant Drives: E92 AW DCT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Across the Wall Posts: 427 iTrader: (0)	Congrats to the first DCT owner! Man, get out and drive some more and come back and write. Do it for the DCT community. Do what BMW and the motoring press owes us and havent done! And get those miles on them autobahns. Last edited by gorun; 03-30-2008 at 01:34 AM.

03-30-2008, 02:13 AM	#41
Jack28 HUSTLER Drives: E46 M3-E92 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: So/Ca Los Angeles Posts: 1,319 iTrader: (0)	CONGRATS! Been waiting on this Review! This is a Big thing for me as Im doing the Change from 6MT from my E46 M3 to M-DCT on my New E92 M3! Thanks for the Review and KEEP US POSTED!!!!!!! __________________ E92 M3 ZCP- AW/FR w/Extended Leather) Packages: ZCP, 6MT, Fully Loaded E46 M3 - AW/IR 6 Spd, Fully Loaded. 19'' BBS LM DBK, V-CSL C/F Bmpr, Botld, Diff, V-CSL Custum IR-CF Center Counsel, V-GTR Hood, Dixis Ti 76mm, Meisterschaft Ti Sec. 1&2, EvoSport Headers, CAI, D/A Chip, tck d/a, Alcantera Headliner with Imola Red Sttitching....

03-30-2008, 02:23 AM	#42
apw2607 Major Drives: 2009 X5 35d Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 1,303 iTrader: (0)	Yes, congrats and thanks for taking the time out to write up a review and take some pics. BTW ... does your owner guide cover the M-DCT? Anything interesting to report? Does it cover LC for example? Thanks.

03-30-2008, 04:53 AM	#43
Bdez Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Jerez & Fox & X5 3.0d Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 165 iTrader: (0)	Finally - it lives - looks great and trust you enjoy it Last edited by Bdez; 03-30-2008 at 05:33 AM.

03-30-2008, 06:16 AM	#44
kbk_75 Lieutenant Drives: Alpine White E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bombay, India Posts: 404 iTrader: (0)	Congrats on the new car and being the first with DCT on the board! Your interior contrast also really looks awesome! Enjoy running her in, and please post some video once you're done with the first service and car start to push her a bit!

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