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      03-27-2008, 02:42 PM   #1
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GT2 vs Z06

While looking Autocar's video section I found this and thought you Americans would be interested in their findings.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=231915&CT=V

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Not pretty for you Z06 lovers.
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that's awesome!
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Wow. Thats like comparing a Civic Si to a E92 M3.

I love how they say 'victory for the germans'. Jesus, not like it was handicapped or anything huh?
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Half the price? I think it does pretty damn well for half the price. Lets see how it compares to the ZR1 though.

Hell, for a fraction of the price my Cobra will run almost as fast as the Z06. Give me another $2k for mods and I'm still a fraction of the price and I'll run faster than the Z06.

Seems like a bit of a silly comparison. There is always a faster car out there if you're willing to shell out the money.
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      03-27-2008, 05:44 PM   #6
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Yeah - this is a great comparison

- $72k versus $192k...
- Goodyear runflats (in the cold) versus Michelin Pilot Sport Cups...
- Driver that doesn't know how to shift... My Z06 has never made noise shifting to second and I don't miss third

Show me a GT2 versus ZR1 comparison and I'll be interested
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Yeah - this is a great comparison

- $72k versus $192k...
- Goodyear runflats (in the cold) versus Michelin Pilot Sport Cups...
- Driver that doesn't know how to shift... My Z06 has never made noise shifting to second and I don't miss third

Show me a GT2 versus ZR1 comparison and I'll be interested
+1!

I have the same transmission (T56) in my Cobra, and I never grind against the syncros. Sure, my 97 GT's crappy T45 I can outshift the syncros, but not the T56. If he was grinding he either doesn't know how to push the clutch down, or he got a car that had already been beat on by someone that doesn't know how to drive.
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Don't diss Chris Harris's driving skills. He's a damn good driver, and a superb editor at that. He deserves a spot on Top Gear if I do say so myself. Fifth Gear even, whatever.

There was no competition whatsoever. The GT2 easily outpowered the Z06 in every single trial. Amazing. Still, the Z06 is an amazing bargain.
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      03-27-2008, 06:01 PM   #9
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While looking Autocar's video section I found this and thought you Americans would be interested in their findings.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=231915&CT=V

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Not pretty for you Z06 lovers.
just wait til the summer....then it's game over at half the price....
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ZR1 in action for those who haven't seen it:


I have no doubt that the ZR1 will be more than a match for the new GT2 - at nearly half the cost... Who knows - it might even be able to best the Carrera GT's 7:28 ring time
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Wow, I didn't expect the GT2 to be that much faster. They let the Z06 get a jump off the line, and the GT2 caught up by the top of second, and started putting lengths on it by the top of 3rd :-O

As for Chris Harris's skill, he's actually quite a good driver, if you look at some of his other videos. He's head and shoulders above most automotive journalists.

I think that Z06 needed a new tranny. I does use the T56, and not the new T6060, right? I NEVER had problems with 2nd in Cobra, even absolutely HAMMERING it with flat footed shifts. Third, in all fairness, could be a little vague sometimes.
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Hmmm, based on this Z06 vs CGT vid, it looks like the GT2 might actually be quicker than the CGT:
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Yeah, I'm 99% sure the C6 Z06s have the T56. I know the C5s do and I think the C6s do as well. I won't say he's a good driver or bad, I just said either he is a bad driver or he needs a new transmission, the transmission is very possibly it. Two (or three of us? I'm not sure if you're saying you have/used to have an 03/04 also) have experience with a T56 and know it's a damn good transmission.

Regardless, the Z06 isn't going to win that race, but I'd like to see what the ZR1 would do to it. And I dare say it'll do it while looking a whole lot better too. The ZR1 is quite possibly one of the most beautiful cars ever built.
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I believe the 2008 Z06's have switched over to the TR6060 - but don't quote me on that...
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Yeah, I'm 99% sure the C6 Z06s have the T56. I know the C5s do and I think the C6s do as well. I won't say he's a good driver or bad, I just said either he is a bad driver or he needs a new transmission, the transmission is very possibly it. Two (or three of us? I'm not sure if you're saying you have/used to have an 03/04 also) have experience with a T56 and know it's a damn good transmission.

Regardless, the Z06 isn't going to win that race, but I'd like to see what the ZR1 would do to it. And I dare say it'll do it while looking a whole lot better too. The ZR1 is quite possibly one of the most beautiful cars ever built.
Yeah, I had one for a few years. I never had problems with gear grinding. Like I said, third COULD be a little vague sometimes, but after a couple weeks I didn't have problems, and could nail fast shifts no problem. Even putting down much more power than stock, I never had any problems with the box.

I could see the tranny on a test car going wonky after getting beat on too hard. Mis-shifts maybe? Either way, it didn't seem to slow his shifts too much, and the GT2 obviously ran away in gear.

The ZR1 should be a better match.
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A 10s 0-100mph is surely very poor for a Z06, we have seen an M6 getting wasted by one in M5Board videos. I think there were other issues with this particular car.

I only posted the video because I thought some here might be interested, that's all.
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just wait til the summer....then it's game over at half the price....
I'd rather have a GTR or a GT2 over that. I think the ZR-1 looks too...I don't even know...it just looks like they've modded the C6 design beyond what I think they should have done. The plastic hood thing is so tacky. The side gills are also meh.
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Yeah, I had one for a few years. I never had problems with gear grinding. Like I said, third COULD be a little vague sometimes, but after a couple weeks I didn't have problems, and could nail fast shifts no problem. Even putting down much more power than stock, I never had any problems with the box.

I could see the tranny on a test car going wonky after getting beat on too hard. Mis-shifts maybe? Either way, it didn't seem to slow his shifts too much, and the GT2 obviously ran away in gear.

The ZR1 should be a better match.
Ahh, nice. It's by far the most exciting car I've ever driven. I don't think there is a second when I drive my Cobra without a huge smile on my face. I'm ready to move on though. As much as I love it, I really want the luxury of a BMW, and it will save money over 2 cars, garage, and gas.
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Yeah, I'm 99% sure the C6 Z06s have the T56. I know the C5s do and I think the C6s do as well. I won't say he's a good driver or bad, I just said either he is a bad driver or he needs a new transmission, the transmission is very possibly it. Two (or three of us? I'm not sure if you're saying you have/used to have an 03/04 also) have experience with a T56 and know it's a damn good transmission.

Regardless, the Z06 isn't going to win that race, but I'd like to see what the ZR1 would do to it. And I dare say it'll do it while looking a whole lot better too. The ZR1 is quite possibly one of the most beautiful cars ever built.


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You're right. Did you just quote me to tell me I'm allowed to have an opinion?
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Ahh, nice. It's by far the most exciting car I've ever driven. I don't think there is a second when I drive my Cobra without a huge smile on my face. I'm ready to move on though. As much as I love it, I really want the luxury of a BMW, and it will save money over 2 cars, garage, and gas.
It's an awesome car! I loved it.

I wanted to do some curvy track stuff, and really couldn't justify using the Cobra as a DD along side another car tailored for track use, so I sold it.

I'll definitely be picking another one up at some point in the hopefully not so distant future. It was one of the best cars I've owned, without a doubt.
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A 10s 0-100mph is surely very poor for a Z06, we have seen an M6 getting wasted by one in M5Board videos. I think there were other issues with this particular car.

I only posted the video because I thought some here might be interested, that's all.
The conditions there were terrible.

Though based on the test MT just did, it looks like the GT2 may be CGT/Zonda R fast, or better.
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