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View Poll Results: Which car would owned who? new M3 or IS-F
4.0 liter V8 414 HP 295 lb-ft torque BMW e90/92 M3 250 72.46%
5.0-liter V8 416 HP 371 lb-ft torque Lexus IS-F 46 13.33%
Just the same- depends on the driver 49 14.20%
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      04-19-2008, 11:45 AM   #133
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the ISF would be about the last sports Coupe/sedan I would buy. I would get an aging RS4 first. even in the RS4 you open the hood and see a beautifully crafted engine, not a plastic cover.
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Okay, guys I think we pretty much put the ISF to rest.... but in my quest, I just like to share info that American Service Center Ballston has their first Steel Grey, Blk Interior C63 AMG in the shop. It is slotted for delivery Tues. I spent a good while in it, around it, under it and in it and around it again well you got the picture. Check out the competition



guess who's better on straight run and who's better on the tracks?


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Okay, guys I think we pretty much put the ISF to rest.... but in my quest, I just like to share info that American Service Center Ballston has their first Steel Grey, Blk Interior C63 AMG in the shop. It is slotted for delivery Tues. I spent a good while in it, around it, under it and in it and around it again well you got the picture. Check out the competition



guess who's better on straight run and who's better on the tracks?

put the isF to rest and bring up the AMG? the thread is opriginally about the ISF.

best in the straights ( who cares the world is not flat or straight) - the AMG

best on a road Course = M3

best at nothing compared to the two above? the ISF.
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One thing I've read from AMG forum though is their high regards for the M3s track record and performance standing

but for most who lives in the real world, their challenges are on streets and roads within the first 60 speedo-miles

.... just happen to use the thread for a personal car market comparo

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One thing I've read from AMG forum though is their high regards for the M3s track record and performance standing

but for most who lives in the real world, their challenges are on streets and roads within the first 60 speedo-miles

.... just happen to use the thread for a personal car market comparo
real world roads are the true test. I get my kicks on the curves and cloverleaf on-ramps too. I like to track may car too. The AMG is an awesome, fast beast for sure.
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well since this thread had generated alot of curiousity on other competitors like Lexus ISF, maybe its time for M3 fans to checkout and drive the competition in person. Thks to our very own DC Metro e90post Moderator KL2DCs find Im able to do this and maybe it would be possible for some of you too

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Coming soon to a racetrack near you, Lexus will be presenting a new twist in exhibiting the all new 416hp Lexus IS-F performance luxury sedan. Unlike previous Taste of Lexus events, this event will allow people to explore the limits of the IS-F at a full fledged race track with expert driving instructors.

Event Dates & Locations

May 9 - 11, 2008 Autobahn Circuit - Joliet, Illinois
May 30 - June 1, 2008 Auto Club Speedway - Fontana, California
June 27 - 29, 2008 Summit Point Motorsports Park - Summit Point, West Virginia
July 11 - 13, 2008 Atlanta Motor Speedway - Hampton, Georgia


There will be two sessions offered for the Lexus Performance Driving Academy. The DRIVING ACADEMY - ULTIMATE which is a half day experience with IS-F. You will be able to experience the IS-F with one-on-one professional driving instruction and a chance to to explore the awesome power and handling. On top of that, you will be able to satisfy your lead foot with many hot laps around the track. Following the exhilarating session of track fun will be an awards ceremony for the participants. Spaces are limited and are filling up quickly for the ULTIMATE. You wont want to miss out on this special event. The other session is the DRIVING ACADEMY which is a 2 hour session which gives you time to drive the IS-F and a host of other performance Lexus models to experience.

You are invited to experience new IS-F. Space is very limited. Please use this invitation number for priority registration to the event.

To register, you must be at least 21 years old and licensed to drive:
http://tasteoflexus.com/performance/registration.asp

An FAQ to the event:
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If you are having issues with registering with the current Invitation code listed above, please send me a PM or send an email to

editor.clublexus@gmail.com

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if the registration is used up just email the editor or call for another.
We'll see you on the track!

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you have to pay? I'd rather stay home and clip my toenails! just kidding (sorta) - Have fun and let us know what you think?

Have you driven the M3 for comparison?
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Have you driven the M3 for comparison?
post#16 from jrdee's test drive theard

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124040

its unfreakingbelievable!
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post#16 from jrdee's test drive theard

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124040

its unfreakingbelievable!

NiCE!!! (except its a 4.0 liter V8)
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yeah! very disheartening
... but I heard somewhere a 5 liter is hovering in the the shadows... or better yet a 6 liter has sprung up somewhere
.... as they say there is no replacement for displacement.


and they can be much more fun than clipping toe nails btw
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I respect what toyota did but the design philosophy really turns me off. The front vents are not functional, the exhaust setup is ridiculous, and overall gives the car a more form over function feel which reminds me of pontiac....

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yeah! very disheartening
... but I heard somewhere a 5 liter is hovering in the the shadows... or better yet a 6 liter has sprung up somewhere
.... as they say there is no replacement for displacement.


and they can be much more fun than clipping toe nails btw

Oh - I meant your review of the car said it was 4.2 liter.

On the IS board most of them complain that Toyota did not put enough funding in to the design and construction.
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What do you mean enough, ads said there was NONE, the engineers worked on their own unpaid time before they took it to the Board. Some say Good first try, others say scary to think what more if they were fully funded
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as in - should have spent more - its just what I read on the IS forum ??
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you have to realize that maybe they were tired w/c explains why some shortcomimgs , I'd be tired too driving around the tracks after a normal work day
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Im not with you on this, no matter what this board says, I feel that the ISF gives the best bang for the the buck.

At $62k out the door, no nickle and dime'ing for any little extra, plus gives you the handling that not even 10% of these M3 guys have experience and yet bitch and trash about. Its a true contender for the M3, welljust look at how much fuss this car has created ever since it debut, that to me is remarkable.

better gas mileage, no gas guzzler tax, better reliability... I say not bad at all

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Im not with you on this, no matter what this board says, I feel that the ISF gives the best bang for the the buck.

At $62k out the door, no nickle and dime'ing for any little extra, plus gives you the handling that not even 10% of these M3 guys have experience and yet bitch and trash about. Its a true contender for the M3, welljust look at how much fuss this car has created ever since it debut, that to me is remarkable.

better gas mileage, no gas guzzler tax, better reliability... I say not bad at all

so when are you trading your 335i in on one?
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Im not with you on this, no matter what this board says, I feel that the ISF gives the best bang for the the buck.

At $62k out the door, no nickle and dime'ing for any little extra, plus gives you the handling that not even 10% of these M3 guys have experience and yet bitch and trash about. Its a true contender for the M3, welljust look at how much fuss this car has created ever since it debut, that to me is remarkable.

better gas mileage, no gas guzzler tax, better reliability... I say not bad at all

Maybe you should read why it has gotten last place in every major comparo (Motor Trend, Car & Driver, Road & Track, Edmunds).
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Im not with you on this, no matter what this board says, I feel that the ISF gives the best bang for the the buck.
huh? in the Rand T test the ISF cost 4k more than the m3.

who in this price wants bang for the buck anyways?
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Wow! I can't believe you two are flaming on a BMW owner just because he likes the ISF. That's pretty low even for you sayemthree or is it dontknowM3. First of all, a comparable loaded ISF is about $62k compare to a comparable loaded e90 M3 for about $66k. That's what PocketRocket is talking about, you don't believe it, go build it yourself. To be honest, at this price range, $4k is not much of a difference. No die hard BMW fan would be sway to buy anything else for a difference of $4k, and i understand that and respect that as well. But don't flame on the guy just because he doesn't agree with you or just because he likes another brand.
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Im not with you on this, no matter what this board says, I feel that the ISF gives the best bang for the the buck.

At $62k out the door, no nickle and dime'ing for any little extra, plus gives you the handling that not even 10% of these M3 guys have experience and yet bitch and trash about. Its a true contender for the M3, welljust look at how much fuss this car has created ever since it debut, that to me is remarkable.

better gas mileage, no gas guzzler tax, better reliability... I say not bad at all

Cool, more M3s for the rest of us.
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You are invited to experience new IS-F. Space is very limited. Please use this invitation number for priority registration to the event.

To register, you must be at least 21 years old and licensed to drive:
http://tasteoflexus.com/performance/registration.asp

An FAQ to the event:
http://tasteoflexus.com/performance/faq.asp

$295, not bad if you get 2+ hours on the track. However, I doubt the many laps equals 2 hours of lapping. I'm sure the 4.5 hour day includes a lot of classroom time and demos. I'd love to spend two hours on the track using up someone elses tires, but it's not likely going to be that much.

If BMW was sponsoring this event they'd have competitors there to compare to their car.
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