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      03-28-2008, 05:13 PM   #1871
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I wonder if the problem stems from Capital One Financing. Many dealers HATE and let me state HATE Cap One cuz they have to wait ages for the money to come through long after the car has left the dealership

So the question is, did the dealer KNOW you were funding this through pre- approved CAP ONE Financing via their on line application?

Also very interesting they brought in new counsel. Did someone from VT corporate step in and put the kabosh on this?

I wonder if Husker thinks it's better to not part with the car and let Ken rack up the legal bills. I guess they'd rather take more hits on their reputation have more eyes pass judgment on them than just let an over rated car get sold for a loss.

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      03-28-2008, 05:14 PM   #1872
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We gotta stay together people and continue the support for Dooma!!

Husker Auto Group is going DOWN!
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      03-28-2008, 05:23 PM   #1873
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Wow.

Just, wow.
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      03-28-2008, 05:24 PM   #1874
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Called it.

I hate to say it, but this has been my impression as well based on the facts provided here alone as a casual observer without any more detail. The buyer was in the right and had the seller's pants down, face down and ass up, unwillingly bent over and the buyer ends up with limp dick. Why would anyone need to repetitively keep mentioning his or her ability to finance and not just pay the thing? 7 days. As is said, actions speak louder than words. Simply put, the buyer got himself in too deep, unintentionally, but then again was also fueled by the Internet.

The power of the Internet. Used for good bringing to light bad practices and stupidity and yet basically turning this thing here into a shitstorm basically screwing this deal and the good the publicity has done.

You guys shot yourself in the foot.

Hopefully, the reputation of Tepper or any other innocent party isn't tarnished in this; he has done nothing but good. My respect.
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Looks like this won't be easy. This is a slap in the face to every honest American consumer. What are the next steps? Do you need money for your legal defense? Your humble internet army awaits....

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      03-28-2008, 05:27 PM   #1876
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Now this lawyer is a little better then Mr Malestrom (are your reading, sir?). He is basically saying...

"You ain't getting the car...and we are going to sue you for libel and financial damages...so keep talking about it...it only raises the damages...bring it on..."

Except for one small detail...he italicized the word "lease"...he used the word pejoratively...which only shows his prejudice...it seems that they are refusing to accept funding from what ever leasing company he is going to use...

The implication (and is consistent with the posting of the trolls) is that people who lease do not have the financial means to actually afford the car (like a $1200 lease payment is nothing). Very insulting...

Clearing they are not going to sell this car to Ken under any circumstances, and will find any excuse not to do it...

I said in my first post in this thread...only the lawyers will win...it is their game
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There is a detail I'm not sure I got right:
Dooma won the auction and according to ebay, the M3 was sold to him. However, he later changed his mind and decided to lease the vehilce. How does that comply with the auction's terms?

Dooma, what kind of lease was that?
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      03-28-2008, 05:30 PM   #1878
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There is a detail I'm not sure I got right:
Dooma won the auction and according to ebay, the M3 was sold to him. However, he later changed his mind and decided to lease the vehilce. How does that comply with the auction's terms?

Dooma, what kind of lease was that?
It doesn't matter if Dooma leases, finances or pays in full for the car. The dealer would still get his $60,000.
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      03-28-2008, 05:31 PM   #1879
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Called it.

Simply put, the buyer got himself in too deep, unintentionally, but then again was also fueled by the Internet.
I disagree..he has financing...they just do not want to accept it...
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looks like this thread will hit 1,000,000 after all..
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      03-28-2008, 05:33 PM   #1881
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It doesn't matter if Dooma leases, finances or pays in full for the car. The dealer would still get his $60,000.
1000% correct...(except that their finance people don't get to pound him also)...
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The letter of Husker's attorneys clearly indicates that no confirmation of funding has been received from the source of the lease. This is an official statement. The dealer would still get his $60,000... if buyer had the financing. I'll say it again: he didn't, at that moment.

I am all for the team spirit, but open the blinds, man.

It is like what Laszlo said, people these days don't own up to their mistakes anymore. Yes ;Husker did own up for Fil's mistake (or trickery), despite its unwillingness. It had to; it was wrong.

Not to give any suggestions, but you know what would be irony, if Husker actually held the buyer to the deal and forced him to pay and proceed with the purchase.
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      03-28-2008, 05:35 PM   #1883
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Im left pretty much speechless.
The allegations leveled against me are completely untrue.
I will fight this, as these are groundless allegations.

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      03-28-2008, 05:35 PM   #1884
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Wrong...the dealer still gets a $60,000. It does not matter if I bring it to them in $20's, $50's, $100's, $.25's, a certifed bank check drawn on my personal account, a bank check from Capital One that is secured with a lien and structured as a loan OR WITH A CHECK FROM A BANK THAT IS STRUCTURED AS A LEASE...the differences are not material to the seller...unless they want to count my quarters...

Also, while I understand that this tread is long...Dooma350 (Ken) has clearly explained this
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I am so sorry to hear ths Dooma.... Looks like they changed the lawyers so that the new lawyers can claim they were not involved in any deals struck by the old law firm / Maledon

That's the only reason I can think of at this moment. And they are trying to scare Dooma with law suit and litigation stuff so he will just let the dealer have the car....

Simply disgusting...
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It doesn't matter if Dooma leases, finances or pays in full for the car. The dealer would still get his $60,000.
Alright, I must have been under wrong impression. I've never leased, only bought vehicles.
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      03-28-2008, 05:43 PM   #1887
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Bobbie, i don't know how many large corporations you've worked for or how many vehicles you've bought, but this is a typical practice of someone who has an exorbitant amount of money and doesn't like to see the average Joe beat them.

It is clearly stated in the letter that the dealership is unaware of how to complete a transaction with the leasing company and doesn't want this vehicle leased. More ploys from big brother.
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Bobbie-NotSoBrighto-

Dooma posted the screenshot of his financing approval which had a 3/20/08 date on it....

What else do you need? His Social, W-2 and bank account number?

Lemme guess you must be from Nigeria!

Or Fil - is that ya?? Don't be shy - Come on out!

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The letter of Husker's attorneys clearly indicates that no confirmation of funding has been received from the source of the lease. This is an official statement. The dealer would still get his $60,000... if buyer had the financing. I'll say it again: he didn't, at that moment.

I am all for the team spirit, but open the blinds, man.

It is like what Laszlo said, people these days don't own up to their mistakes anymore. Yes ;Husker did own up for Fil's mistake (or trickery), despite its unwillingness. It had to; it was wrong.

Not to give any suggestions, but you know what would be irony, if Husker actually held the buyer to the deal and forced him to pay and proceed with the purchase.
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Any reasonable (sane) person should realize that the "clock" for financing should start once the sales was accepted and terms agreed upon. When Dooma was informed that it was a mistake the "clock" should have stopped until an agreement was reached!

Why, why, why would Lincoln BMW even want to drag this out longer?

The longer this goes on the worse it will be for Lincoln BMW.

I have a sales office in Lincoln. I'm going to call them and maybe get some of this posted on their bulletin board. There are a lot of BMW owners working there and might like to know about this little fiasco.

Stick to your guns Dooma.
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Dooma posted the screenshot of his financing approval which had a 3/20/08 date on it....
Look at it again, smart guy.

It is exactly one of the reasons for my impression.
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The letter of Husker's attorneys clearly indicates that no confirmation of funding has been received from the source of the lease. This is an official statement.
A letter isn't PROOF. Its just based on what Husker's attorney's claim.

Please stop feeding the troll. He disappears for a few days when everyone has pwned him then returns the minute the letter is posted. Not to mention, he never replied to those who pwn him.

Watch him disappear once again after this situation dissolves.
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Who said it was proof? It was an official statement.

Not trying to get into it with you defensive dudes. I have no interest in either party here, although I am for the consumer in a bad sale.

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Please stop feeding the troll. He disappears for a few days when everyone has pwned him then returns the minute letter is posted. Not to mention, he never replied to those who pwn him.

Watch him disappear once again after this situation dissolves.
You talking about me?

Who was it that got owned again?
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