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JuniorDee · 03-19-2008, 01:23 PM

Has anyone heard of this company RDSport?

http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/Nort...D_NA_Intro.cfm

They are offering a "Motor Tuning" that brings the M3 to 534HP.

http://www.racdyn.com/ftpRoot/PriceL...20E92%20M3.pdf

Eclipsis · 03-19-2008, 01:59 PM

RDSport is a very respectable tuner. I've seen some of their work on the M5. If just a chip brings the car to 448 that's not too shabby, but $40,000 for 534 HP? LOL no thanks.

Epacy · 03-19-2008, 03:15 PM

I wonder about upgrades like this. Is there really enough of a market to justify blowing this kind of money for R&D?

JuniorDee · 03-19-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

I wonder about upgrades like this. Is there really enough of a market to justify blowing this kind of money for R&D?

It does make you wonder how many people out there worldwide are willing to spend that kind of dough.

I am also going under the assumption that the "Motor Tuning" is a displacement increase similar to what Dinan is offerring for the m5/m6.

And that brake kit better be carbon ceramic for that price.

gasman · 03-19-2008, 05:02 PM

F...that. If I wanted to spend an extra 40K....I wouldn't be driving an M3!

SPEZNAS92 · 03-19-2008, 10:53 PM

+1 to comment above!

nn4gb · 03-23-2008, 12:07 AM

i also agree on the comment above

OzStriker · 03-23-2008, 12:56 AM

335 on the other hand.....

JEllis · 03-24-2008, 09:27 PM

That is either a typo with the decimal point in the wrong spot or that is the price for a race prepped M3 or something. The stage 1 software looks interesting. 30Hp from a tune!

M3aHOLIC84 · 03-24-2008, 09:35 PM

I mean ive never excessively tuned my car and all that but $40,000 for only 534hp?? lol i mean if im not mistaken you can push 750 plus hp for about $15,000 from those turbo kits. this is a big rip off

KonigsTiger · 04-07-2008, 06:09 PM

I must certainly agree with most of the above. While I really don´t think you can push 750 hp reliably with a $15K turbo system (that’s a bit of a stretch I think), you can certainly get to about 600 hp with about $30K (Mosselman turbo system estimates, etc…). I think the package these guys offer contemplates y major brake upgrade, spoiler kit, wheel/tires, engine mods, etc… that I think may be worth that much!!! Hell, good brakes alone will cost you around $8K and above!!!

KonigsTiger · 04-10-2008, 01:38 PM

I wrote these guys and they never responded! First bad sign.

Ryan(e92) · 04-22-2008, 05:11 PM

Rd sport is no closer to offering a flash for the M3 then I am and I dont know shit about performance tunes. They post that they offer these mods yet NOBODY HAS THEM! I have not heard of a single person who has their "black box" for the 335 which looks like an xede. SUPPOSEDLY somebody has a turbo upgrade from them (which has been on their website for over a year) but that is based on what Samir said and he has yet to post pics. They are a phantom tuner.

nd54 · 04-22-2008, 11:03 PM

I've had the Black Box for my 335 for about a year. Quit being a douche and actually try ordering some product. Most people never even go onto car forums, so don't base your opinions on other posts. Every RDSport product I've owned has been amazing, and I can honestly say their products and designs are my favourite out of all the other tuners out there.

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Originally Posted by Ryan(e92)

Rd sport is no closer to offering a flash for the M3 then I am and I dont know shit about performance tunes. They post that they offer these mods yet NOBODY HAS THEM! I have not heard of a single person who has their "black box" for the 335 which looks like an xede. SUPPOSEDLY somebody has a turbo upgrade from them (which has been on their website for over a year) but that is based on what Samir said and he has yet to post pics. They are a phantom tuner.

KonigsTiger · 04-22-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nd54

I've had the Black Box for my 335 for about a year. Quit being a douche and actually try ordering some product. Most people never even go onto car forums, so don't base your opinions on other posts. Every RDSport product I've owned has been amazing, and I can honestly say their products and designs are my favourite out of all the other tuners out there.

Wow! How many other tuners do you have experiance with?

M275 · 04-23-2008, 12:07 AM

534 Horsepower comes from a 4.5 Liter stroker motor.

nd54 · 04-23-2008, 12:25 AM

Completely irrelevant. I was just making a point that they aren't a "phantom tuner" and a fair number of people have their products. Fisker Automotive used an RDSport engine conversion for their M6 based Latigo which produced something like 650hp. Certainly fewer customers than ACS, Hartge, Hamman, etc.. but RDSport did had some problems a few years with their US importer back which really compromised their business in this regard. From the complete cars, body kits, exhausts, wheels, etc.. that I've seen they are my favourite tuner.

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Wow! How many other tuners do you have experiance with?

KonigsTiger · 04-23-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nd54

Completely irrelevant. I was just making a point that they aren't a "phantom tuner" and a fair number of people have their products. Fisker Automotive used an RDSport engine conversion for their M6 based Latigo which produced something like 650hp. Certainly fewer customers than ACS, Hartge, Hamman, etc.. but RDSport did had some problems a few years with their US importer back which really compromised their business in this regard. From the complete cars, body kits, exhausts, wheels, etc.. that I've seen they are my favourite tuner.

Got it, I think you have a fair point and good to know someone knows them. I still perplexed at why they never responded to emails etc... everyone else does.

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Originally Posted by M275

534 Horsepower comes from a 4.5 Liter stroker motor.

Do you have any more details on this. Even for a stoker $40K seems way up there. Not even Dinan charges that for the storker M5 and M6 V10 engine.

KonigsTiger · 04-23-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hakaida442

dinan charges 5 dollars shy of 40k for their engine and requires a few other costly items that pushes it well over 40k.

hmmmm. Didn't know that either. Learn something new every day. It is a V10however and it is said that the Dinan V8 stroker will be closer (actually below) $32K. I got this out of a source that spoke to Mr. Dinan directly (they are good friends). But then again, that is here say and entirely unconfirmed.

My personal experience with Mercedes tuners (don´t have any really with BMW tuners yet) is that it can get really, really expensive depending on what you want. But I do know first-hand you can easily spend over $40 grand on a reliable Mercedes engine tuner to double output! Plus another huge amount in proper transmission, differential, suspension, brakes/wheels/tires, and aerodynamic modification to keep power equal to chassis etc… performance.

Ryan(e92) · 04-23-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nd54

I've had the Black Box for my 335 for about a year. Quit being a douche and actually try ordering some product. Most people never even go onto car forums, so don't base your opinions on other posts. Every RDSport product I've owned has been amazing, and I can honestly say their products and designs are my favourite out of all the other tuners out there.

My mistake they actually did develop about 3 of the 30 products listed on their 335 product list. Ive contacted them numerous times about their turbo upgrade packages. Two more weeks two more weeks. The point I was trying to make, and it is a valid one, is that I wouldnt hold my breath for this ecu tune that they are supposedly developing. We are all stoked u like your black box.

M275 · 04-23-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Do you have any more details on this. Even for a stoker $40K seems way up there. Not even Dinan charges that for the storker M5 and M6 V10 engine.

Its the essentially the same thing as the S85 V10 Stroker that they offer.

Here's what they say about the 5.6l S85

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The V-10 RS 56 uses much of the same technology found in the latest F1 motors: billet crankshaft, billet rods, and a set of forged pistons that are amongst the lightest to ever find their way into a production-based motor.

The ported cylinder heads boast 17% more efficiency than the stock ones, and this is mainly obtained through the use of larger valves and modified cam profiles.

KonigsTiger · 04-24-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by M275

Its the essentially the same thing as the S85 V10 Stroker that they offer.

Here's what they say about the 5.6l S85

Nice, really nice indeed!

03-19-2008, 01:23 PM	#1
JuniorDee Lieutenant Drives: the speed limit Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: hanging with Elian Posts: 589 iTrader: (0)	534hp from RDSport? Has anyone heard of this company RDSport? http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/Nort...D_NA_Intro.cfm They are offering a "Motor Tuning" that brings the M3 to 534HP. http://www.racdyn.com/ftpRoot/PriceL...20E92%20M3.pdf

03-19-2008, 03:15 PM	#3
Epacy Reincarnated Drives: 02 Maxima SE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: IL Posts: 4,217 iTrader: (0) View Epacy's Garage	I wonder about upgrades like this. Is there really enough of a market to justify blowing this kind of money for R&D? __________________ Pearl Bliss

03-19-2008, 05:02 PM	#5
gasman Member Drives: 08 RR Sport SC, 08 AW/FR M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 485 iTrader: (0)	F...that. If I wanted to spend an extra 40K....I wouldn't be driving an M3! __________________

03-23-2008, 12:56 AM	#8
OzStriker Captain Drives: BMW E92 M3, Ducati 1198S Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 880 iTrader: (1) View OzStriker's Garage	335 on the other hand..... __________________ BMW E92 M3 6MT, G-Power SKII supercharged, RPi GT exhaust + 100cel cats, Brembo 380mm BBK, BMW Performance steering wheel, LUX H8 angel eyes, CF CSL boot, Hamann CF diffuser, Vorsteiner CF lip, CF grilles, CF gills, CF bonnet vents, BMW Performance stripes, VMR V713 wheels, H&R spacers, Eibach lowering springs.

03-24-2008, 09:27 PM	#9
JEllis Brigadier General Drives: E36 M3, 997S Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,149 iTrader: (1)	That is either a typo with the decimal point in the wrong spot or that is the price for a race prepped M3 or something. The stage 1 software looks interesting. 30Hp from a tune! __________________

03-19-2008, 01:59 PM	#2
Eclipsis Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 M5, 2008 E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 1,985 iTrader: (6)	RDSport is a very respectable tuner. I've seen some of their work on the M5. If just a chip brings the car to 448 that's not too shabby, but $40,000 for 534 HP? LOL no thanks.

03-19-2008, 10:53 PM	#6
SPEZNAS92 Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Studio City Posts: 257 iTrader: (2)	+1 to comment above!

03-23-2008, 12:07 AM	#7
nn4gb Registered Drives: oupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 4 iTrader: (0)	i also agree on the comment above

03-24-2008, 09:35 PM	#10
M3aHOLIC84 Private First Class Drives: 2002 Laguna Seca Blue M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 168 iTrader: (0)	I mean ive never excessively tuned my car and all that but $40,000 for only 534hp?? lol i mean if im not mistaken you can push 750 plus hp for about $15,000 from those turbo kits. this is a big rip off __________________ 2002 Laguna Seca Blue M3

04-07-2008, 06:09 PM	#11
KonigsTiger Racying Dynamics Drives: E92M3 RS46 Club Sport, others Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dweller Posts: 4,408 iTrader: (0)	I must certainly agree with most of the above. While I really don´t think you can push 750 hp reliably with a $15K turbo system (that’s a bit of a stretch I think), you can certainly get to about 600 hp with about $30K (Mosselman turbo system estimates, etc…). I think the package these guys offer contemplates y major brake upgrade, spoiler kit, wheel/tires, engine mods, etc… that I think may be worth that much!!! Hell, good brakes alone will cost you around $8K and above!!! __________________ ==================================================

04-10-2008, 01:38 PM	#12
KonigsTiger Racying Dynamics Drives: E92M3 RS46 Club Sport, others Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dweller Posts: 4,408 iTrader: (0)	I wrote these guys and they never responded! First bad sign. __________________ ==================================================

04-22-2008, 05:11 PM	#13
Ryan(e92) Captain Drives: Melbourne Red M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 682 iTrader: (6)	Rd sport is no closer to offering a flash for the M3 then I am and I dont know shit about performance tunes. They post that they offer these mods yet NOBODY HAS THEM! I have not heard of a single person who has their "black box" for the 335 which looks like an xede. SUPPOSEDLY somebody has a turbo upgrade from them (which has been on their website for over a year) but that is based on what Samir said and he has yet to post pics. They are a phantom tuner.

04-23-2008, 12:07 AM	#16
M275 Registered Drives: BMW Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2 iTrader: (0)	534 Horsepower comes from a 4.5 Liter stroker motor.