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      03-06-2008, 11:46 PM   #1
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Why oh why do we in the US have to deal with BS stuff on the cars imported here. Just on the M3, only the US cars have reflectors on the bumpers, the seat bottoms are changed, launch control has historically been crippled. Its not only on BMW's its on almost every high performance import but why? why do we have to deal with changes made to our cars?

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We pay the least, maybe that has something to do with it?
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We pay the least, maybe that has something to do with it?
Doesnt that have to do more with taxes?
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Why oh why do we in the US have to deal with BS stuff on the cars imported here. Just on the M3, only the US cars have reflectors on the bumpers, the seat bottoms are changed, launch control has historically been crippled. Its not only on BMW's its on almost every high performance import but why? why do we have to deal with changes made to our cars?
Reflectors - US regs. - thank the Feds.
Seat bottoms - Likely BMWUSAs judgement that our bottoms are too fat.
Launch control - Name another country that gets 4 years free warranty AND maintenance? Clutches, drivelines, diffs, etc. are part of this. I'm not complaining.

We actually have the best prices and deal in the world. All a matter of perspective.
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Reflectors - US regs. - thank the Feds.
Seat bottoms - Likely BMWUSAs judgement that our bottoms are too fat.
Launch control - Name another country that gets 4 years free warranty AND maintenance? Clutches, drivelines, diffs, etc. are part of this. I'm not complaining.

We actually have the best prices and deal in the world. All a matter of perspective.
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yep totally agree Greg .... I'm sure folks in Europe would gladly take the USA price with a few minor compromises than paying what they are ...
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Reflectors - US regs. - thank the Feds.
Seat bottoms - Likely BMWUSAs judgement that our bottoms are too fat.
Launch control - Name another country that gets 4 years free warranty AND maintenance? Clutches, drivelines, diffs, etc. are part of this. I'm not complaining.

We actually have the best prices and deal in the world. All a matter of perspective.
I second everything you said
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Why oh why do we in the US have to deal with BS stuff on the cars imported here. Just on the M3, only the US cars have reflectors on the bumpers, the seat bottoms are changed, launch control has historically been crippled. Its not only on BMW's its on almost every high performance import but why? why do we have to deal with changes made to our cars?

+1. the reflectors and the seats are the two biggest WTFs with US cars. the fugly reflectors are like an after-thought from the germans. they could come up with semi-decent ones for the 335i but not for a 60k M car. lord jesus. and the seats! what logic is behind their decision to ship those seats in the US? no...really..
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Doesnt that have to do more with taxes?
Partially taxes. I'll give you 19% VAT (loose equivalent of sales tax, let's say), but pretax price of 71500 EURO with options is around at least 105,000 USD (using a conservative exchange rate). Add 19%, and 4500USD for environment tax (gas guzzler, let's say)

I can only say I took delivery early November. For that price difference I'll take a reflector on each door as well. And it's not a viable option to import them from the US. Some people do it for Infinitis and other NA-only cars.
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complain , complain complain. when the 336 came out we complained we didnt have the euro engine. when the e46 came out we complained we had reflectors on the bumper. - WHO the F cares if the USA ccar has reflectors. it hsa the SAME 414 HP engine as the euro car and goes like stink.

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Reflectors - US regs. - thank the Feds.
Seat bottoms - Likely BMWUSAs judgement that our bottoms are too fat.
Launch control - Name another country that gets 4 years free warranty AND maintenance? Clutches, drivelines, diffs, etc. are part of this. I'm not complaining.

We actually have the best prices and deal in the world. All a matter of perspective.
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      03-07-2008, 09:31 AM   #16
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What are the differences in seats? Pics?
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Im being nice. Otherwise someone would off bust response on you.

Heres a whole thread dedicated to lardy ass american seats

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114547
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Thanks!!! Actually, there are a few of us that never set foot in fast food joints.
Really? You've missed something in case you've never tried a BigMac IMO.


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      03-07-2008, 03:04 PM   #21
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Reflectors - US regs. - thank the Feds.
Seat bottoms - Likely BMWUSAs judgement that our bottoms are too fat.
Launch control - Name another country that gets 4 years free warranty AND maintenance? Clutches, drivelines, diffs, etc. are part of this. I'm not complaining.

We actually have the best prices and deal in the world. All a matter of perspective.

I agree on the reason for the reflectors but I think the explanation for the seats may be the same. I know that in the recent past certain limited edtion models of high-end European sports cars have had to have their seats replaced because they do not meet US occupant protection crash standards (don't ask me why but Road and Track has reported this).

As for the lack of launch control, you should blame your lawyers and their prediliection for suing anyone with deep pockets for huge sums of money. If some idiot kills someone in the US while using launch control it is BMW's fault and not the idiot's.

By the way Canada gets the reflectors and the no-charge maintenance too. At least on the basic 3 series we do. The M3 isn't up on the configurator yet.
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