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      03-13-2008, 06:55 AM   #1
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AMS 7/08 Mr.Reithofen "...future Ms could get turbomotor..."

BMWs Senior Chairman Norbert Reithofen stated in an AUTO MOTOR SPORT - Interview that "their is an good posiblity that in the future M-Models could get Turbomotors"....

Good news? Bad news?

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      03-13-2008, 07:01 AM   #2
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Good question. It's a matter of how you read that statement. Does he really mean M cars as in all M cars or does he just prepare the "crowd" for the introduction of the M-X6/5 with a turbo V8!?

In general it might not be that bad to have a turbo engine in an M3 or M5, as long as the redline is way higher than 6.5k...


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I think it was expected news. With increasing mpg standards and the hp wars, with no end in sight.
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True Epacy.

Begs the general question - would you rather have a turbo charged M or a hybrid M. Assume both retain their high-revving redline RPM. Might make a good poll question actually.

You could add diesel too, but I don't think anyone has figured out how to make a high-revving diesel yet, at least not one that is viable in production.
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True Epacy.

Begs the general question - would you rather have a turbo charged M or a hybrid M. Assume both retain their high-revving redline RPM. Might make a good poll question actually.

You could add diesel too, but I don't think anyone has figured out how to make a high-revving diesel yet, at least not one that is viable in production.
I think under the assumption that both retain their redline RPM we couldn't care less what direction they're heading (Reithofer seemed to rule out hybrid for M in the very same interview, though).

IMO the question is: Which one needs less reduction of the redline, that'd be my favourite.


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I think under the assumption that both retain their redline RPM we couldn't care less what direction they're heading (Reithofer seemed to rule out hybrid for M in the very same interview, though).

IMO the question is: Which one needs less reduction of the redline, that'd be my favourite.


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I'm with you South - I don't really care one way or the other (assuming equivalent RPM), but as with all things on this forum, I suspect some folks may have fairly strong opinions.

Personally I hope that M is able to do one more round of pure naturally aspirated motors with HPI. These could well be the last of era.
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I agree, so long as M cars keep a good high redline say 8k or so, I could dismiss the non conformity of turbo M's. Just imagine the 2012 M5 with 630 Hp, direct injection, twin turbos and and an 8000 RPM redline. Where do i sign?
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BMWs Senior Chairman Norbert Reithofen stated in an AUTO MOTOR SPORT - Interview that "their is an good posiblity that in the future M-Models could get Turbomotors"....

Good news? Bad news?

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As long as it's not turbodiesel....

With fuel economy restrictions it's pretty clear that manufactures must come out with options to save fuel. GG tax will go up eventually.
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I have mixed feelings about the addition of FI to the M cars. At least I will have the E92 M3 and can just keep it if I don't like the direction they decide to go.
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I agree, so long as M cars keep a good high redline say 8k or so, I could dismiss the non conformity of turbo M's. Just imagine the 2012 M5 with 630 Hp, direct injection, twin turbos and and an 8000 RPM redline. Where do i sign?
Strangely that doesn't sound too unlikely...
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no its entirely possible, although I can see the F10 M5 costing about 100-110K. but just imagine it... engine wailing at 8000 rpm, turbos and intercoolers produce a deafening whoosh, it'll be like my old car, tha Supra.
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Biturbo and a 8500 rpm redline
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Biturbo and a 8500 rpm redline
That's 2000 rpm more than the V8 TT in the X6 has...


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