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      03-25-2008, 06:02 PM   #45
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guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time. We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident and for sure we will update you folks, once this KR F1 product becomes available.
Thank you for your good feedbacks on Kreissieg units. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at any time. thank you for your attention.

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awkward??? is that a word even? if it is then it definitely cannot be used in this context.

bro, that was fraudulent what you guys did. it's not a vendor mess-up. if i were you i would go to a completely different market and try to sell. there's no way in heck people will buy from you again.

thanks for our attention? ORLY??!!!!
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      03-25-2008, 06:07 PM   #46
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      03-25-2008, 06:14 PM   #47
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time to stop by hardware store and buy some stainless pipes...weld them and sell them as a "quality exhaust system".....it may even sound better than watever "Meisterschaft".....
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guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time. We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident and for sure we will update you folks, once this KR F1 product becomes available.
Thank you for your good feedbacks on Kreissieg units. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at any time. thank you for your attention.

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Kreis-sieg will sell direct to overseas customers, given whats happened here, you guys should pressure Kreis-sieg to sell direct in the USA as well.
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time to stop by hardware store and buy some stainless pipes...weld them and sell them as a "quality exhaust system".....it may even sound better than watever "Meisterschaft".....
Yeah but the metal has to be manufactured in Germany, so you can say Authentic, and when confronted you can say. It really came from germany!
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there's plenty of legit vendors, plenty. EisenHoax is just not one of them. it amazes me how they're back in less than 2 months doing the same exact scam... WOW
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there's plenty of legit vendors, plenty. EisenHoax is just not one of them. it amazes me how they're back in less than 2 months doing the same exact scam... WOW
Maybe they've partnered up with BavDom and are going to make a CF intake/ exhaust combo group buy!!
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Yeah but the metal has to be manufactured in Germany, so you can say Authentic, and when confronted you can say. It really came from germany!
who knows...i'm just gonna stamp a BIG Meisterschaft stamp!
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who knows...i'm just gonna stamp a BIG Meisterschaft stamp!
That stamp could be worth it's weight in platinum covered diamonds!!!
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Take your beef up with Eisenhaus in another way. You guys are ruining this thread with your constant talk.
This thread is about the F1 system, ONLY.
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calm down E. since those guys are trying to pull the same scam on M3 people i think it's very appropriate to let everyone know of what they have done man.

those vendor-wannabes are trying to scam you and me and get our money again using the F1 system's name, and they're doing it ON this thread
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calm down E. since those guys are trying to pull the same scam on M3 people i think it's very appropriate to let everyone know of what they have done man.

those vendor-wannabes are trying to scam you and me and get our money again using the F1 system's name, and they're doing it ON this thread
Agreed!! It's nice to learn about the good or bad reputation of certain distributors from chats like this!!! Thanks guys!!!
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no one should buy from eisenfraud ever again
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no one should buy from eisenfraud ever again
Agreed, I think the point has been made.

Lets move forward and focus our efforts on finding a viable alternative for buying this product.
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Take your beef up with Eisenhaus in another way. You guys are ruining this thread with your constant talk.
This thread is about the F1 system, ONLY.

+1- I think we should all stop beating the dead horse.
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Just to bring things back on topic, I'm not that familiar with the Kreis-seig brand so I snooped around their webpage briefly and found this description of their system.



So now my question is, Is driving around with the exhaust set to Open Mode (F1 sound) even legal? On most public streets in the U.S., yes.

I'm assuming it isn't so my follow-up question is, How legal is it to install an exhaust system that can become illegal at the flick of a switch from inside the cabin? Basically dumps from the sound of their description when its in open mode. Part of the answer to this question really depends on the level of risk you're willing to take.

A a flow-chart diagram of their system can be found here. http://www.kreissieg-usa.com/?_page=10&gubun=f1

Thanks for that ^
The website's portrayal of the exhausts for the E60 and the E46 appear to be CAT back and therefore would potentially be street-legal, assuming no violations of local laws restricting db levels...

I'm interested in how the weight of the Valvetronic compares to stock...

I'd also still like to see a pic of the actual piping especially how it looks with the bends/transition at the "CAT bypass" area...
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I too am interested in how much weight this adds to the stock exhaust.

Anybody have any M5/M6 stock vs F1 exhaust system weights?
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I too am interested in how much weight this adds to the stock exhaust.

Anybody have any M5/M6 stock vs F1 exhaust system weights?
This would not add any weight. It would reduce it quite a bit.
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Well, the system is saying that it has 2 different channels for exhaust air to flow through. Adding an addition channel that offer's as much airflow bandwidth as the stock system would increase weight, simply because it is extra material that wasn't originally there.
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Well, the system is saying that it has 2 different channels for exhaust air to flow through. Adding an addition channel that offer's as much airflow bandwidth as the stock system would increase weight, simply because it is extra material that wasn't originally there.
You're interpreting it incorrectly.
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You're interpreting it incorrectly.
Epacy would you mind elaborating on that?

The way I see it, this exhaust will probably be a cat back stainless system, with a bit of a maze of pipes at the back, a couple of valves and the associated vacuum tubing and components.

Not that I am all that fussed with 10kg here or there, but I would expect it to be a litle heavier. Do you think otherwise?
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