BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Drivetrain, ECU Software Modifications
 
PYSPEED
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-17-2008, 09:38 PM   #23
M-Maika
First Lieutenant
 
M-Maika's Avatar
 
Drives: M3 E92 AW
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Barcelona ( Spain ) Porto ( Portugal )

Posts: 365
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW M3 E92  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzStriker View Post
This exhaust is required.
Totally agreed.
__________________
M3 E92 M-DKG and all the options available.
Forum BMW Portugal: http://www.forumbmwportugal.com
M-Maika is offline   Portugal
0
Reply With Quote
      03-17-2008, 11:40 PM   #24
Hans Delbruck
BMW & MB - friends in my garage
 
Hans Delbruck's Avatar
 
Drives: C63, 135i, 1959 BUICK
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

Posts: 1,285
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epacy View Post
Looks like these guys are located in IL, right near O'Hare. They are about 4hrs from me.

Free exhaust for allowing them to test-fit my vehicle sounds about right.
Doooooooo iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
__________________
2009 135i 6MT Euro Delivery 9/5/09
BMW Performance Power Kit - Exhaust - Short Shifter
Hans Delbruck is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-18-2008, 02:52 AM   #25
eclipsisNA
Colonel
 
Drives: 2013 Estoril 328i M Sport
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Beverly Hills, CA

Posts: 2,938
iTrader: (6)

Garage List
2014 BMW 428i  [3.88]
Eisenhaus = the frauds that sold Eisenmann branded products that were really Korean knockoffs.
eclipsisNA is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-19-2008, 08:59 PM   #26
OzStriker
Captain
 
OzStriker's Avatar
 
Drives: Ford Falcon Ute, Ducati 1198S
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne

Posts: 923
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to OzStriker
For potential overseas customers:

I enquired about purchasing this exhaust from Australia and got the same generic email response with the following addition:

"You can purchase them directly from us when this unit becomes available."
__________________
BMW E92 M3 6MT, G-Power SKII supercharged, custom exhaust with 100 cell cats and Remus Sport mufflers, Brembo 380mm BBK, BMW Performance steering wheel, LUX H8 angel eyes, CF CSL boot, Hamann CF diffuser, Vorsteiner CF lip, CF grilles, CF gills, CF bonnet vents, BMW Performance stripes, RAC RG63 wheels, Eibach lowering springs, camber modifications.
OzStriker is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2008, 04:48 AM   #27
M-Maika
First Lieutenant
 
M-Maika's Avatar
 
Drives: M3 E92 AW
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Barcelona ( Spain ) Porto ( Portugal )

Posts: 365
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW M3 E92  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzStriker View Post
For potential overseas customers:

I enquired about purchasing this exhaust from Australia and got the same generic email response with the following addition:

"You can purchase them directly from us when this unit becomes available."
Group buy ???

Keep us informed.
__________________
M3 E92 M-DKG and all the options available.
Forum BMW Portugal: http://www.forumbmwportugal.com
M-Maika is offline   Portugal
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2008, 08:31 PM   #28
EisenHaus
Private
 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Illinois

Posts: 66
iTrader: (0)

guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time. We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident and for sure we will update you folks, once this KR F1 product becomes available.
Thank you for your good feedbacks on Kreissieg units. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at any time. thank you for your attention.

EisenHaus
Tel: 630.787.1600
EisenHaus is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-21-2008, 07:47 AM   #29
hakaida442
First Lieutenant
 
hakaida442's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Vegas, NV

Posts: 371
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EisenHaus View Post
guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time. We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident and for sure we will update you folks, once this KR F1 product becomes available.
Thank you for your good feedbacks on Kreissieg units. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at any time. thank you for your attention.

EisenHaus
Tel: 630.787.1600
Regain your rep by giving everyone full refunds for the fake crap that you sold them.
hakaida442 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-21-2008, 07:58 AM   #30
Epacy
Reincarnated
 
Epacy's Avatar
 
Drives: 02 Maxima SE
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: IL

Posts: 4,227
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M3  [0.00]
Can you explain why the fake exhausts were sold as the original product?
__________________
Epacy is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-21-2008, 08:32 AM   #31
hakaida442
First Lieutenant
 
hakaida442's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Vegas, NV

Posts: 371
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epacy View Post
Can you explain why the fake exhausts were sold as the original product?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
hakaida442 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-21-2008, 09:43 AM   #32
lucid
Major General
 
lucid's Avatar
 
Drives: E30 M3; Expedition
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: USA

Posts: 8,034
iTrader: (0)

I can't believe Kreis-sieg is relying on these liars as their sole US distributor.
__________________
lucid is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-21-2008, 09:58 AM   #33
OC ///M
Dr. Octagon
 
OC ///M's Avatar
 
Drives: Moonstone e92 M3
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: So Cal

Posts: 1,817
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EisenHaus View Post
guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time.
I am absolutely stunned as I read this...

YOU are the one who should be feeling awkward. You're not sorry for what YOU did, but you're sorry WE'RE "feeling awkward". Was that actually your attempt at an apology?

I'm willing to bet money that anger, not awkwardness, is a better adjective to describe how we feel.

Good Business 101: Don't steal from other companies and lie to your customers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EisenHaus View Post
We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
...So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident
...you're asking for OUR "humble understanding"? It's not the victims' job to be humble, once again you've turned it around...
__________________
OC ///M

2013 E92 M3 Individual
Sold: 2011 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Into a Wall: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2007 E92 335i JB
OC ///M is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-21-2008, 10:01 AM   #34
OC ///M
Dr. Octagon
 
OC ///M's Avatar
 
Drives: Moonstone e92 M3
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: So Cal

Posts: 1,817
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lucid View Post
I can't believe Kreis-sieg is relying on these liars as their sole US distributor.
Maybe an email campaign to Kreis-seig enlightening them on the business ethics of Eisenhaus is in order, after all, how can we trust that we are getting the real thing from them?

I won't buy from them on principle alone. I am not rewarding that type of behavior.
__________________
OC ///M

2013 E92 M3 Individual
Sold: 2011 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Into a Wall: 2008 E92 M3 SSII | Sold: 2007 E92 335i JB
OC ///M is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-21-2008, 10:09 AM   #35
lucid
Major General
 
lucid's Avatar
 
Drives: E30 M3; Expedition
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: USA

Posts: 8,034
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by OC kid View Post
Maybe an email campaign to Kreis-seig enlightening them on the business ethics of Eisenhaus is in order, after all, how can we trust that we are getting the real thing from them?

I won't buy from them on principle alone. I am not rewarding that type of behavior.
+1.

I'd rather buy directly from Kreis-seig. Maybe we should set up a petition signed by interested M3 owners on the forum for Kreis-seig to find another distributor in the US? They need to have a product first though!

BTW, you guys realize this is going to be expensive, right? The price is tba, but I might have problems with paying $6k for an exhaust system.
__________________
lucid is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-23-2008, 02:11 PM   #36
UltimateBMW
Brigadier General
 
UltimateBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: MP4
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South

Posts: 3,287
iTrader: (0)

Just to bring things back on topic, I'm not that familiar with the Kreis-seig brand so I snooped around their webpage briefly and found this description of their system.

Quote:
Kreissieg¡¯s Type F1 Race exhaust system is a unique design that delivers performance and sound on demand.
Unlike any other exhaust, this system allows the driver complete control over the exhaust¡¯s performance and sound attributes.

With each Type F1 Race design, two exhaust gas paths are configured.

Normal Mode : This path is a traditional path that takes the exhaust through the catalytic converters and muffler chamber before it exits at the rear tips.

F1 Mode : This path bypasses both the catalytic converters* and muffler chamber, thus taking the exhaust straight from the manifold to its exit at the rear tips.
F1 Mode produces the greatest possible horsepower gain with a true F1 race-style sound.

Strategic placement of butterfly valves in the system allows for instantaneous control between Normal and F1 modes.
A switch placed within the cabin controls the valves. With a simple flip of the switch, the driver selects between Normal and F1 modes.
So now my question is, Is driving around with the exhaust set to Open Mode (F1 sound) even legal?

I'm assuming it isn't so my follow-up question is, How legal is it to install an exhaust system that can become illegal at the flick of a switch from inside the cabin? Basically dumps from the sound of their description when its in open mode.

A a flow-chart diagram of their system can be found here. http://www.kreissieg-usa.com/?_page=10&gubun=f1
__________________
UltimateBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-24-2008, 12:34 PM   #37
eclipsisNA
Colonel
 
Drives: 2013 Estoril 328i M Sport
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Beverly Hills, CA

Posts: 2,938
iTrader: (6)

Garage List
2014 BMW 428i  [3.88]
Quote:
Originally Posted by EisenHaus View Post
guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time. We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident and for sure we will update you folks, once this KR F1 product becomes available.
Thank you for your good feedbacks on Kreissieg units. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at any time. thank you for your attention.

EisenHaus
Tel: 630.787.1600
TOTAL DOUCHEBAGGERY
eclipsisNA is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-24-2008, 02:27 PM   #38
Epacy
Reincarnated
 
Epacy's Avatar
 
Drives: 02 Maxima SE
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: IL

Posts: 4,227
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateBMW View Post
Just to bring things back on topic, I'm not that familiar with the Kreis-seig brand so I snooped around their webpage briefly and found this description of their system.



So now my question is, Is driving around with the exhaust set to Open Mode (F1 sound) even legal?

I'm assuming it isn't so my follow-up question is, How legal is it to install an exhaust system that can become illegal at the flick of a switch from inside the cabin? Basically dumps from the sound of their description when its in open mode.

A a flow-chart diagram of their system can be found here. http://www.kreissieg-usa.com/?_page=10&gubun=f1
With alot of mods, they are termed "off-road use only". Will probably be the same for this exhaust. It's no big deal, just something they have to note. Lots of things are like that. Some bulbs you can get to put in your car for exterior lights, replaceing/covering the front reflectors, etc.
It's up to the police officers if they really want to screw you over and write you up for some equipment violations. Only real way to tell for an aftermarket exhaust is if you have mandatory emission control laws or if the cop hears you go buzzing by.
__________________
Epacy is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-24-2008, 03:32 PM   #39
KonigsTiger
Racying Dynamics
 
KonigsTiger's Avatar
 
Drives: E92M3 RS46 Club Sport, others
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Dweller

Posts: 4,398
iTrader: (0)

Wow!!! Well, I'll go for a group buy, but hope we don't get nailed!!
__________________
==================================================
KonigsTiger is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-24-2008, 09:17 PM   #40
Vmotion
The Ultimate Driver
 
Vmotion's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 335i
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC

Posts: 127
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BNR32 View Post
Ah, looks like I've not been the only one waiting for this
I estimate the price will be around $6K+ if they decide to develop one.
One of my favorites is the full f1vt they have on the F430 with the super cats setup




http://www.kreissieg-usa.com/videos/f430-7.mpg
http://www.kreissieg-usa.com/videos/f430-6.mpg

BNR32 - Love your Avatar!

Here is an Exhaust System for you while you wait.

PS - Use IE to view the flash file. I'm having a little trouble seeing it in FF

http://www.vehicularmotion.com/catal...roducts_id=761
__________________
RTS Tune - RTS Forged 8 Wheels - Akrapovic Exhaust - Stett CAI & Charger Pipe - LED Taillights - Mtec A.E. Upgrade.
Coming Soon - RTS Coilovers - MTech Kit - RTS Upgraded Turbos.
Rich Tuning Systems

Vmotion is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-25-2008, 05:37 PM   #41
gadget
Major
 
gadget's Avatar
 
Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: US

Posts: 1,162
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lucid View Post
+1.

I'd rather buy directly from Kreis-seig. Maybe we should set up a petition signed by interested M3 owners on the forum for Kreis-seig to find another distributor in the US? They need to have a product first though!

BTW, you guys realize this is going to be expensive, right? The price is tba, but I might have problems with paying $6k for an exhaust system.
+1

On a separate note, where in the car is the switch usually placed and what would it look like. I personally would like to have it inside the armrest or glove box so it can't be seen.
gadget is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-25-2008, 05:41 PM   #42
OzStriker
Captain
 
OzStriker's Avatar
 
Drives: Ford Falcon Ute, Ducati 1198S
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne

Posts: 923
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to OzStriker
Quote:
Originally Posted by gadget View Post
+1

On a separate note, where in the car is the switch usually placed and what would it look like. I personally would like to have it inside the armrest or glove box so it can't be seen.
How about on your key ring?

__________________
BMW E92 M3 6MT, G-Power SKII supercharged, custom exhaust with 100 cell cats and Remus Sport mufflers, Brembo 380mm BBK, BMW Performance steering wheel, LUX H8 angel eyes, CF CSL boot, Hamann CF diffuser, Vorsteiner CF lip, CF grilles, CF gills, CF bonnet vents, BMW Performance stripes, RAC RG63 wheels, Eibach lowering springs, camber modifications.
OzStriker is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      03-25-2008, 06:00 PM   #43
OC 335i
General
 
OC 335i's Avatar
 
Drives: AW 335D E90
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Irvine/Aliso Viejo, CA

Posts: 18,119
iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2007 335i  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to OC 335i Send a message via MSN to OC 335i
Quote:
Originally Posted by EisenHaus View Post
guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time. We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident and for sure we will update you folks, once this KR F1 product becomes available.
Thank you for your good feedbacks on Kreissieg units. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at any time. thank you for your attention.

EisenHaus
Tel: 630.787.1600
You can't advertise here like that. You aren't a vendor.
__________________

Current: 2010 Alpine White 335D LCI l 19" BBS LMs l KW V2 Coilovers l BMW Performance Grilles l MSport Front/Rear l Karbonwerke Trunk l F1 Pinnacle Tint 35% Former: E92 Space Grey 335i Latest pics
OC 335i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-25-2008, 06:01 PM   #44
Mattscott
Major General
 
Mattscott's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 335i E90
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Beaumont, CA

Posts: 8,327
iTrader: (2)

Send a message via AIM to Mattscott
Quote:
Originally Posted by EisenHaus View Post
guys, we are very sorry that you feel a little awkward to deal with us on Meisterschaft units and Kreissieg units at this time. We are truly willing to work hard to regain the credit back and satisfy our customers in all ways and we are currently doing so.
So, we are asking your humble understanding regards to the previous incident and for sure we will update you folks, once this KR F1 product becomes available.
Thank you for your good feedbacks on Kreissieg units. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at any time. thank you for your attention.

EisenHaus
Tel: 630.787.1600




__________________
Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
Mattscott is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:51 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST