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      03-17-2008, 09:58 PM   #133
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The purpose of any living thing is self-fulfillment. For different species it can mean different things, even within species there are differences. A guy two houses down works at some McJob, and smokes weed all day - and he's happy, he's fulfilling his life's aspirations, his life is full of purpose - smoke, make fries, eat fries, shit processed fries, smoke, sleep, repeat... To me, I aspire to other things, including intellectual and spiritual (not what you think) fulfillment, therefore I need more (other?) things in life to consider myself happy, and therefore fulfilling my biological purpose.


Also, I don't know why you want anything to decide your fate; to me religion is another way for the american society to shift responsibility. Parents are blaming Hollywood for fucked up kids, people who refuse to vote blame a moron of a president for a plummeting economy. Everything, and i mean every single thing we do in life, we are responsible for, no exceptions. If my plane crashes while I'm flying to Hawaii, I can trace back the steps of how it would be possible for me to avoid that outcome. There are no accidents, no God's gifts, or God's fuckups - taking responsibility now decides what will happen in the future. No science, and certainly no higher power decides my fate, I do.

And regarding morals, I never denied you had them. I simply meant that I know where exactly you got them...

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How can you apply a measurement to morals anyway...Sometimes I just don't understand people. Hey look, there's that guy again, he's only got 1 moral LOL what a loser... i got 5...I'm totally rocking it in heaven...Seriously, I understand I'm talking semantics, but you're obviously a republican on Bill Maher show. Given there's 5 atheists to every religious person on this forum, I would consider being more thorough with wording arguments since it will obviously be brought up by at least one of your debate opponents.
How ridiculous it is that u think we count morals by numbers....you either are a person with high standards and morals or you're not;;;;;there is no in between as far as I am concerned...This is what has happened to America and its children; everything in America has gone downhill since the 50s when prayer was taken out of the school; when atheists and/or agnostics decided they didn't want scripture on the walls and prayer at ball games and didn't want their children attending church; the morality of our children has gone downhill from there....their parents do not think living with spouses without marriage is wrong; they don't oppose children seeing sexual promiscuity across the movie screen; its OK to have sex outside of marriage and/or as a teenager; drinking alcohol to excess is OK even for young people; it goes on and on; the moral values of today's youth began as slight changes from one decade to another to the point now where almost anything is acceptable.
Then people want to "blame" it on anything but their actions as parents. Pornography is at its highest right now, both men and women; people accepting their neighbor doing their pot smoking or drugs and saying well that's his life....that is most certainly not what we are on this earth for...we do have a purpose regardless of what you think....

If you are a parent, or ever plan to be one, don't you think that your child should have you to answer to when he acts irresponsibly or doesn't do what he knows are the home rules? Would you punish that child for disobeying you or doing his own thing? That is exactly what God will do to people who do no recognize their sins against Him. As an earthly parent corrects those he loves, so does God.

Yes, you can trace back you life i.e. getting on a plane and crashing; but what if that crashing plane is the results of an alcoholic pilot who took no responsibility for his actions and piloted that plane anyway. You could trace it back, but how sad that you put your faith in the pilot.
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We as human beings are separated from the animal kingdom; God gave us a free will, a thinking mind and emotions that he did not give the animals around us; he expects us to make decisions, think and love.

Yes, the goldfish has a purpose in life; he reproduces his kind and he serves as food for the larger fish....
That statement is false. There are numerous other animals besides humans that posses the ability to think in an abstract manner. Though some of them have slightly different brain structure, the end result is the same. Real intelligence. A simple google search on your part would give you all the information you need. Other mamals, birds, even cephalopods are areas where you could concentrate your research if you wanted to see proof that numerous other species of animals have similar cognitive abilities to humans, and are not governed purely by instict.

Our closest relatives, chimps and gorillas, who broke off from the common primate ancestor around the same we did, have VERY simliar brain and thought structures. Their brains aren't quite as evolved in some areas, but they indubitably possess all of the characteristics you listed above, and excercise them in a way similar to Homo sapiens.

Additionally, your later assertation that morality is in any way tied to religious devotion is completely contrary to fact. 16-20% of Americans consider themselves Agnostic/Aetheist/Secularist. Out of those imprisoned for violent crimes, figures suggest that somewhere between 2 and 5% are Agnostic/Aetheist/Secularist.

The relevant data suggest that Aetheists are actually much MORE moral than the religious. It's not only somewhat offensive to the nonreligious to say that they are somehow less moral because they aren't afraid of divine retribution, it's also completely inacurate factually.
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We as human beings are separated from the animal kingdom; God gave us a free will, a thinking mind and emotions that he did not give the animals around us; he expects us to make decisions, think and love.

Yes, the goldfish has a purpose in life; he reproduces his kind and he serves as food for the larger fish....
Are you trying to say that animals don't think or love? Even pigs think before they try to escape from the farm. If you mess with a bear's cubs, it'll tear you apart in peices; that's love. Your dog will cry when you abandon him/her.

I seriously don't find anything superior about humans. We're just apes.

Our purpose in life can be the same with a goldfish too if you look at it this way. We are born to reproduce our kind and feed on other animals, since we're on top of the food chain at this moment.
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If you are a parent, or ever plan to be one, don't you think that your child should have you to answer to when he acts irresponsibly or doesn't do what he knows are the home rules? Would you punish that child for disobeying you or doing his own thing? That is exactly what God will do to people who do no recognize their sins against Him. As an earthly parent corrects those he loves, so does God.
Would you throw your child in a furnace if he/she doesn't believe what you say?

Just a hypothetical question.
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I never deny there are other gods besides a Holy God; there are many gods that people worship including statues in other religions; money & fame on earth are gods in themselves; anything that you put before an almighty God you can count as a god;

As for David Koresh; that's a new one on me; I never knew he made the blind to see or the lame to walk; this is a case where people seeking "religion" not faith are like those that follow TV evangelist; they have not studied or read the Bible enough to know false gods from the real thing.

Some bible scholars believe that the Pentateuch (first five books of the Bible which contains the laws) were written by Moses. That being said, if you read the Old Testament, do you ever question how so many years before Christ's birth & death, it was prophesied of his coming, of John the Baptists coming, and even the end of the world. These OT books were written long before Paul, Peter, Joseph, Mary, Jesus, Judah, etc. were ever born and who fulfilled the OT prophesies in the NT. It all fell into place.

The intricate details of the OT & NT and completion of each book could not possibly been written without divine intervention. No writer on earth could be this perfect in writing a novel or book of this length without mistakes.
When you speak of man writing this book, don't you think that when man, or more than one man, got involved in trying to construct this book, there would have been so many errors from one chapter or book to another; only under the divine hand of God could these records have been written with such precision.

As far as believing there are other places than earth; yes, I believe there are other places than earth; our solar system is full of other planets, the mormons even believe they're going to go to one ????; but I also know there is a heaven, and a hell. Just because we can't see it, feel it, or touch it; doesn't mean it's not there.
I'd just like to point out for the record that the Old Testiment and the Jewish Torah are not one and the same. Although Christianity and common thought are that they are. They are very similar but there are many parts that have been changed in the OT. So when you say that the OT predicts Jesus, John the Babtist etc please know that your OT has been changed to take the Torah and bent slightly to make those "Predictions" be more accurate after the fact.
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mormonism is a cult; it is not Biblical; it truly is founded on the heresy of a man, John Smith; they hv a Bible and they speak of Jesus but not my Jesus nor my Bible; totally different; they believe in realms of salvation and going from one realm to another after death; marriage after death, salvation after death....totally cultish
Does this mean that any religion that is not Christianty is a cult? In your estimation are other religions not as acceptable or "right" as yours?
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I have no idea where that came from; my Christianity did not come out of a "cult;"
Which one? Prodestant, Catholic, non-denominasional? Which one isn't an off-shoot or a cult? If you ask me I'd say they were all off-shoots of Jewdaism right?
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When you people start these "religion" threads and do not in any way believe in God, and then accuse those who reply to them as trying to stuff religion down your throat, that's kind of a two edged sword, don't you think? If you are interested in faith and don't believe in it, why all the questions and then accusations when we answer?
Because religious distorted view of reality is highly divisive, it claims monopoly on truth, it reserves the right to moral superiority, it supresses critical faculties, it uses an idea of hell as a tool for moral policing. All based on an ancient text.

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There are many, many good people in this world who are not saved by the grace of God. They do great things, they spend large amounts of money for humanity, they push all the right buttons but do not want to accept that there is a higher power than themselves. They want to be in total control and live their lives how they want to, not by answering for sins committed even though they do good things. God says you cannot; you must live a life pleasing to Him.
Why is God so obsessed in my belief in him? How big is his ego?
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We don't prayer to a statue; our Christian cross is empty; He has risen and no longer hangs upon that cross in Christian churches...We pray to no statue, or to Mary, or to Saints or angels, only to almight God/and Jesus...
So I assume that the loss of a cross in a church would be meaningless? I thought those objects had religous and spiritual conotation unlike what you would find in a Jewish Temple.
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Uhm Christ never said to shove religion down people's throats or did I miss that verse?
Amen to that!
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It used to be that I told them I was Catholic and they ran away and prayed for me, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. Attendance must be down or something...
Tell them your Jewish. As the "choosen people" they tend to leave me alone although not always.
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There is nothing wrong with a child being raised by a gay couple, or a split up couple, or a non-married couple, because the thing that really matters in child development is love. Give children attention, and focus their energy on development, and it won't matter if you do it doggy style in the bedroom when they go to sleep. I know many obnoxious gay people, they are completey unfit to be parents, but I also know considerably more cretins that are deemed normal by society, whose contributions to the genepool aren't wanted either.

I would be happy for my future kids if they start having sex at an appropriate age, after puberty. I would definately not want them to get married just because they are really horny, and then live a life of misery with a partner they got together with for the wrong reasons. I certainly would want them to become experienced sexually, since it's a fun and natural part of adult life.

There is something wrong with a child who instead of being rationally taught about aspects of life, is abducted into a sect at an early age, and scared into doing the "right" things.
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I can understand what you mean as far as the "dictionary" defines cult.

When I think of cult, I think of those religions or behaviors that are not based on the Holy Bible. That even includes groups such as Charles Manson, John Karesh, and even the organized faiths of Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, or any other structured faith that does not believe in the virginal birth of Christ, His death and resurrection for our sins.
So Jewdiasm, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Baha'i, Confucianism, Shinto, and Taosim by your definition are all "lesser" religons and thus cults?
I hope you see that you have just defined MOST of the world as religous nutheads.

Oh and if Jewdiasm is a cult which Christianity sprang from doesn't that make JC himself from a Cult as well?
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How ridiculous it is that u think we count morals by numbers....you either are a person with high standards and morals or you're not;;;;;there is no in between as far as I am concerned...This is what has happened to America and its children; everything in America has gone downhill since the 50s when prayer was taken out of the school; when atheists and/or agnostics decided they didn't want scripture on the walls and prayer at ball games and didn't want their children attending church; the morality of our children has gone downhill from there....
You do remember that this country was founded by MANY different religons and we have a thing called freedom of religion! How DARE YOU ensinuate that I should HAVE to be PREACHED to or have my children preached to at a public institution! It took the Europeans centuries to figure out that religion and politics don't go together our forefathers got it now its our turn to act on it as well or we might as well rename this country The United States of Jesus!

I sincerly hope that you are not as intolerant of other religons as you seem to be coming off as.
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The relevant data suggest that Aetheists are actually much MORE moral than the religious. It's not only somewhat offensive to the nonreligious to say that they are somehow less moral because they aren't afraid of divine retribution, it's also completely inacurate factually.
Besides wouldn't you think that IF there is a god that he would respect a person actively questioning, searching and making a decision MUCH more than someone who blindly follows any religion without doing so? Carolyn I'm not saying this is you I'm just saying in general.
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So I assume that the loss of a cross in a church would be meaningless? I thought those objects had religous and spiritual conotation unlike what you would find in a Jewish Temple.
You do not read or misunderstand my posts; we do not have a loss of the cross in our church; we have a large cross above the baptistry of our church;
what is missing in Christ who was crucified on it. He no longer hangs on a cross but is resurrected.
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Besides wouldn't you think that IF there is a god that he would respect a person actively questioning, searching and making a decision MUCH more than someone who blindly follows any religion without doing so? Carolyn I'm not saying this is you I'm just saying in general.

You are correct; He very much wants you to seek Him for yourself; read His word; that's what keeps you from following false doctrine...He loves for us to have questions, seek answers, He doesn't even mind when we come to Him with our anger and express it to Him, just like an earthly father would. He loves us all.
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You do remember that this country was founded by MANY different religons and we have a thing called freedom of religion! How DARE YOU ensinuate that I should HAVE to be PREACHED to or have my children preached to at a public institution! It took the Europeans centuries to figure out that religion and politics don't go together our forefathers got it now its our turn to act on it as well or we might as well rename this country The United States of Jesus!

I sincerly hope that you are not as intolerant of other religons as you seem to be coming off as.

If you recall, our country was founded by the people in England wanting to break from the Church of England and worship Christ. This is how American began; not multiples of many religions, that have been brought over here by other countries, i.e. Hindus, Muslim, Buddhism, many Eastern faiths.

As I've said in many posts, a lot of these "other" religions besides Christianity have some good qualities but they do not worship a risen Jesus who came to take away the sins of the world. They are filled with "false" teachings. I am not here to judge man, God will be the judge in the end.

The only way you or your children can be sure of what they should be following is by teaching. Whether that be formal institution church or led by their parents. It was very important to God that people belong to an active church; meaning an active body of believers (they are the church, not the building). I do not propose to tell people they must do anything; that's everyone's opinion; I'm just expressing my interpretation of the Bible.
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So Jewdiasm, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Baha'i, Confucianism, Shinto, and Taosim by your definition are all "lesser" religons and thus cults?
I hope you see that you have just defined MOST of the world as religous nutheads.

Oh and if Jewdiasm is a cult which Christianity sprang from doesn't that make JC himself from a Cult as well?
Any and all religions (faiths, whatever) that do not have a doctrine of God having a son born of a virgin and coming to earth for the ultimate sacrifice i.e. dying on the cross for our sins, and rising 3 days later and ascending into heaven, I believe to be a cult. This has been revealed to me by many years of Biblical teaching by Bible scholars too numerous to mention here. Not just in Baptist faith, but several others. I do not call these other followers nutheads; I just call them lost, uninformed.

Jesus Christ was indeed a Jew, betrayed by his own faith. They gave Him up for a common thief named Barabus. They still do not accept Him as who He is. But God tells us in Revelations that one day during Tribulation times, 144,000 Jews will become new Christians to go about the earth to spread the gospel before the destruction of the world. They will realize what has taken place & believe. He also tells us that when He returns to earth He will come from the Israel.

You see, unless you study & have understanding, much of what is misunderstood is revealed very plainly.

People on this forum that keep saying the Bible is a fairy tale book. Even if this book were written by mortal man many years ago (which it is not), how do you suppose you can read the books of the New Testatment, especially Revelations, and see with yours eyes on paper, prophecy revealed. Things that have happened and are currently happening that are fulfilling prophecy this very day. How would you suppose mortal man knew all this was going to take place hundreds of yrs later?
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You do not read or misunderstand my posts; we do not have a loss of the cross in our church; we have a large cross above the baptistry of our church;
what is missing in Christ who was crucified on it. He no longer hangs on a cross but is resurrected.
I didn't mean that you lost christ from your cross. I meant what would you think if someone stole it or it was damaged? Doesn't it have spiritual significance to you or is it just a piece of artwork?
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If you recall, our country was founded by the people in England wanting to break from the Church of England and worship Christ. This is how American began; not multiples of many religions, that have been brought over here by other countries, i.e. Hindus, Muslim, Buddhism, many Eastern faiths.

As I've said in many posts, a lot of these "other" religions besides Christianity have some good qualities but they do not worship a risen Jesus who came to take away the sins of the world. They are filled with "false" teachings. I am not here to judge man, God will be the judge in the end.

The only way you or your children can be sure of what they should be following is by teaching. Whether that be formal institution church or led by their parents. It was very important to God that people belong to an active church; meaning an active body of believers (they are the church, not the building). I do not propose to tell people they must do anything; that's everyone's opinion; I'm just expressing my interpretation of the Bible.
I seem to remember this country being founded by Quakers and Pilgrims which are not modern day Babtists.
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Because religious distorted view of reality is highly divisive, it claims monopoly on truth, it reserves the right to moral superiority, it supresses critical faculties, it uses an idea of hell as a tool for moral policing. All based on an ancient text.

Don't be offended. Examine my statement and respond with arguments.

Don't be offended, but I believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell. It is not a "scare" tactic. God's word tells us that satan believes, and trimbles.

Why is God so obsessed in my belief in him? How big is his ego?
Yes, He does have a big ego. He wants your all; your best. He will settle for nothing less. For He knows, that if you follow Him, your life will be an enjoyable life, not necessarily pain & problem free, but good & fulfilled. You can get through the hard times by leaning on Him, and you can celebrate joyously with Him in the good times.
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