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      02-20-2008, 02:04 PM   #1
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Question Hey here's an idea!

Now, I'm not a mechanic or anything like that but stay with me here. The number one complaint on the M3 is its servotronic, numb steering right? but the normal three series has the optimum feel right?
here is my idea... take the steering system from say a 335I and swap it with the system in the M3 and calibrate it to the M3's specs (steering ratio's, wieght, power, grip and handeling limits) Can this be done? or is my head in LALA land ?
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okay first let me say i don't really know what im talking about... just some thoughts...

but i don't think that it would work... first you would have to deal with the sensors for the different settings with in the i-drive... so the computer would flip a shit if you just left the original sensors just hanging around. and i don't thing that the steering system from the 335 would have the proper inputs... maybe?

second what about the "M" button and the different buttons on the actual steering wheel it self...

then we have to deal with all the sensors for the rest of the car, cus my understanding is that everything is tied into everything else... so maybe there would be some negative effects with the DSC and what not...

this is not even taking into account the fitment issues... if there are any.


Again… im kinda talking out of my ass… I don’t know anything for sure, but that’s just some of my thoughts… feel free to critique any of this haha
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Now, I'm not a mechanic or anything like that but stay with me here. The number one complaint on the M3 is its servotronic, numb steering right? but the normal three series has the optimum feel right?
here is my idea... take the steering system from say a 335I and swap it with the system in the M3 and calibrate it to the M3's specs (steering ratio's, wieght, power, grip and handeling limits) Can this be done? or is my head in LALA land ?
I was told, that i īd have to use the i-drive to "fix" that problem. You may switch some setings to get a better steering.
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I was told, that i īd have to use the i-drive to "fix" that problem. You may switch some setings to get a better steering.
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      02-20-2008, 06:52 PM   #5
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Now, I'm not a mechanic or anything like that but stay with me here. The number one complaint on the M3 is its servotronic, numb steering right? but the normal three series has the optimum feel right?
here is my idea... take the steering system from say a 335I and swap it with the system in the M3 and calibrate it to the M3's specs (steering ratio's, wieght, power, grip and handeling limits) Can this be done? or is my head in LALA land ?
I highly doubt that this would be easier or more effective than just modifying the software and/or some of the mechanics in the M3 steering itself.

Furthermore, you cannot necessarily just swap in a 335i steering system and get 335i feel since it could very well be that part of the difference in the overall experience is due to the difference between the suspension and steering linkage of the two.

IMHO, the M3 steering is probably perfectly fine, and if not, and there is a demand, someone will find a way to mod it to make it better.
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The issues raised regarding the M3 steering are a "numbness around center", the complaints are not really about lightness or poor feel in general.

Personally I have no idea what they are talking about, the steering feels great to me with good weight to it on the normal setting and in sport it firms up a bit more...I have not noticed any "numbness around center."

Probably the most noticeable thing about the steering is the directness of it, 2.4 turns lock to lock, you can comfortably take hairpins and leave both hands on the BMW recommended 9-3 positions, feels great.
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The issues raised regarding the M3 steering are a "numbness around center", the complaints are not really about lightness or poor feel in general.

Personally I have no idea what they are talking about, the steering feels great to me with good weight to it on the normal setting and in sport it firms up a bit more...I have not noticed any "numbness around center."

Probably the most noticeable thing about the steering is the directness of it, 2.4 turns lock to lock, you can comfortably take hairpins and leave both hands on the BMW recommended 9-3 positions, feels great.
well i guess your really the expert here as you own an M3. I am too young to have the kind of experience that some journalists and enthusiasts have had so i guess i rely too much on what they say. Guess i should wait till I get my E92 to see if this issue is really tangible
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How about we pull the ass end out of an 335. Wait, what about the computer. OK, first we pull the computer out of the ass end of a 335. Then what do we have? A huge sucking sound?
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The issues raised regarding the M3 steering are a "numbness around center", the complaints are not really about lightness or poor feel in general.

Personally I have no idea what they are talking about, the steering feels great to me with good weight to it on the normal setting and in sport it firms up a bit more...I have not noticed any "numbness around center."

Probably the most noticeable thing about the steering is the directness of it, 2.4 turns lock to lock, you can comfortably take hairpins and leave both hands on the BMW recommended 9-3 positions, feels great.
Ditto, I find it very precise. And, I've had the car almost 4 months and have covered nearly 3000 miles and that 'numbness' has not yet surfaced once.

I quite like the lightness of the wheel and also how quickly it firms up in any mode. Just drive the car for a day or two and you'll wonder what you've been worrying about!
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How about we pull the ass end out of an 335. Wait, what about the computer. OK, first we pull the computer out of the ass end of a 335. Then what do we have? A huge sucking sound?
K smart ass you do that
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