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      02-19-2008, 05:02 PM   #1
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1 series coupe can't get no respect. How bout now

C/D TEST RESULTS:

Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec
Zero to 140 mph: 25.6 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.5 sec
Standing -mile: 13.3 sec @ 106 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 143 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 157 ft
Roadholding, 328-ft-dia skidpad: 0.89 g

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test

Saw it here originally http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4504
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      02-19-2008, 05:17 PM   #2
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It's really funny to me how people make a big deal out of these numbers.

It's lighter than the 335 and has the same engine... of course the numbers are going to be a tad better.

It gets less respect because of the body roll, the height which hurts handling (it's taller than the 3) and the looks

Besides that it is an excellent car, just a bit overpriced.
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      02-19-2008, 07:30 PM   #3
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4.7 wth i thought the 135 hit 60 in like 5.3
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      02-19-2008, 08:26 PM   #4
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4.7 wth i thought the 135 hit 60 in like 5.3
The #'s are from C&D, the BMW official numbers are always more conservative.
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      02-19-2008, 08:40 PM   #5
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people respect the peformance just not the appearance
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      02-19-2008, 08:45 PM   #6
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wow.... just a tick slower than my M!
by C&D test results... Z4 M 0-60 4.6, 1/4 - 13.2
i wish my wife would get one!
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      02-19-2008, 09:28 PM   #7
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4.7 wth i thought the 135 hit 60 in like 5.3
5.3 is BMW's numbers which a bit exaggerated. Also 5.3 is to 62mph and 4.7 is to 60. Big difference!
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      02-19-2008, 09:31 PM   #8
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      02-20-2008, 12:25 AM   #9
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awesome, i forgot that bmw tends to underrate its cars
cant wait for terry, shiv and other tuners to get their hands on it. the 135 is going to be a VERY surprising sleeper to those unaware of its potential
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      02-20-2008, 01:00 AM   #10
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still butt ugly.. so what its fast? a Neon SRT4 is fast.. but still a Neon - i give respect to it for being a cheap POS that is FAST - but nothing else.
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      02-20-2008, 10:52 AM   #11
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still butt ugly.. so what its fast? a Neon SRT4 is fast.. but still a Neon - i give respect to it for being a cheap POS that is FAST - but nothing else.
You trying to say that the 135i is a POS that is fast. Give me a break, you can't comapre a neon to a BMW. It's a BMW, that is fast, you should be proud. You ever see it in person, or you just deciding from pictures? The car looks very aggresive in person.

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      02-20-2008, 10:53 AM   #12
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^^^hummm, where have I've seen that post before
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      02-20-2008, 10:59 AM   #13
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      02-20-2008, 12:12 PM   #14
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      02-20-2008, 12:49 PM   #15
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still butt ugly.. so what its fast? a Neon SRT4 is fast.. but still a Neon - i give respect to it for being a cheap POS that is FAST - but nothing else.
actually the 135i is pretty expensive so i completely fail to see your point.

let me ask you: so what if it's ugly? you can stare at its ugly ass as you watch it pull away in the 1/4.
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      02-20-2008, 01:42 PM   #16
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Remind me what were the C/D numbers for 335?
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      02-20-2008, 02:06 PM   #17
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Remind me what were the C/D numbers for 335?
4.9

it's only 200 lbs lighter and the 335 has better aerodynamics - 2/10ths isn't much - 135 should be quicker as it is a little lighter, but it is all on the driver, traction, temperatures and track conditions the day they do the test. The 200lbs won't make much of a difference and even if it did, I would still pick the 335 on looks and be a little slower!
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      02-20-2008, 02:31 PM   #18
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4.9

it's only 200 lbs lighter and the 335 has better aerodynamics - 2/10ths isn't much - 135 should be quicker as it is a little lighter, but it is all on the driver, traction, temperatures and track conditions the day they do the test. The 200lbs won't make much of a difference and even if it did, I would still pick the 335 on looks and be a little slower!
You are right, test conditions matter. It is winter so the car is faster. It would be cool if they did a back to back comparison with a 335. Conditions aside, 0.2 delta is significant!
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      02-20-2008, 05:20 PM   #19
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Wow, look at all the haters of the 135i, I really wasn't expecting this from this forum. I thought it would be a BMW brotherhood....guess I was wrong.

As for ugly, I don't think the 135i is ugly. And for the neon comment, funny, I had a 2003 neon srt-4, Stage 3..lots of bolt ons (12.4 at 116mph), fun car.

I was very impressed with the performance of the 335, I am just as impressed with the 135i. With a slight tune, the 135i is going to be one hell of a car.
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      02-20-2008, 05:42 PM   #20
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It's really funny to me how people make a big deal out of these numbers.

It's lighter than the 335 and has the same engine... of course the numbers are going to be a tad better.

It gets less respect because of the body roll, the height which hurts handling (it's taller than the 3) and the looks

Besides that it is an excellent car, just a bit overpriced.
Not really, the general consensus was 135i is only 88lbs lighter with higher drag coefficient than the 335i therefore it would be fraction of a 1/10th a second faster 0-60 and lose out to 335i at triple digits. Where did the 200lbs lighter came from because I swear many people here disregarded the 200lbs difference from BMW NA because they said BMWNA can't be trusted. Must use the EU standard which was 1600kg vs. 1560kg.

There are more. People here said because of the single exhaust the 135i will put out less power and the skinnier rear tires will not be able to put the power down. Just like speculation of an inch taller than 335i will somehow make it a lot more wobbly. The 135i may has more body roll than the cayman but its suspension is expected to be more taut than the 335i. So if the 135i rolls a lot... then...

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Remind me what were the C/D numbers for 335?
C/D TEST RESULTS for 135 coupe:

Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.5 sec
Zero to 140 mph: 25.6 sec
Street start, 560 mph: 5.5 sec
Standing -mile: 13.3 sec @ 106 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 143 mph
Braking, 700 mph: 157 ft
Roadholding, 328-ft-dia skidpad: 0.89 g

Here's the same figures for the 335i 6MT Coupe that they tested:

Zero to 60 mph: 4.9 sec
Zero to 100mph: 12.1 sec
Zero to 140mph: 28 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.6
Standing 1/4 mile: 13.6 sec 105 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 144 mph
70-0 mph impending lockup: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g
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