This is why BMW does not have to worry about Lexus...

agent0986 · 01-13-2006, 11:38 PM

Brand new LS460 was just released...coincidentally brand new camry was also released:

agent0986 · 01-13-2006, 11:40 PM

sorry one more for old time's sake...

Airboy · 01-13-2006, 11:42 PM

Who is "we"?

ward · 01-13-2006, 11:42 PM

familycar.com

that's friggin funny to me

might as well be dontgiveashitaboutdriving.com

those are horrid

Ed_330i · 01-13-2006, 11:50 PM

wow, tailights are 100% same

HRC · 01-14-2006, 12:00 AM

Man, it really must make lexus drivers feel :mad: when they see somebody drive past in a toyota, "yea, see the extra 20 grand was for..."

You would think toyota would go the extra mile to make the lexus buyers feel warm and fuzzy, maybe the lexus drivers don't care, I would. I'm vain.

Nevermind they share the same frame and most parts, aleast look different.

Danny

DTM · 01-14-2006, 12:03 AM

Lexus is lost. Once they copied MB. Now they copy BMW. And wait wait wait, are they copying their own econobox brand?

stressdoc · 01-14-2006, 12:07 AM

They are the Borg.

JamieA · 01-14-2006, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRC

Man, it really must make lexus drivers feel :mad: when they see somebody drive past in a toyota, "yea, see the extra 20 grand was for..."

You would think toyota would go the extra mile to make the lexus buyers feel warm and fuzzy, maybe the lexus drivers don't care, I would. I'm vain.

Nevermind they share the same frame and most parts, aleast look different.

Danny

Yes. VW does the same shit to Audi drivers. Even though the Passat and A4 are now on completely different platforms, they are releasing technology in the Passat before the A4. This certainly helped me make the switch from the A4...

Ed_330i · 01-14-2006, 12:19 AM

Why didn't MB sue or bitch somewhat about the design copying?

Is there a way to complain or something against this crap?

ek9hatch00 · 01-14-2006, 12:34 AM

toyotas and lexuses always looked alike

BMW E90 · 01-14-2006, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed_330i

Why didn't MB sue or bitch somewhat about the design copying?

Is there a way to complain or something against this crap?

I was wondering the same thing

HRC · 01-14-2006, 12:36 AM

Doesn't mean they can't change their ways and do something good IMHO for lexus drivers, but I suppose Toyota knows best...

Danny

Chesmu · 01-14-2006, 12:39 AM

toyota's a huge copy machine.. he MR2 spyder is clearly modeled on the boxster

DTM · 01-14-2006, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed_330i

Why didn't MB sue or bitch somewhat about the design copying?

Is there a way to complain or something against this crap?

I think that MB doesn't really want to acknowledge the fact that somebody would even compare the 2 brands. They want their buyers to feel above all that japanese bullcrap.

arn · 01-14-2006, 12:54 AM

lol... I just saw ur thread over at clublexus. It's interesting how different forum gets different reaction.

agent0986 · 01-14-2006, 01:03 AM

haha yeah, i was curious/interested how they were going to defend this one...

Nikki · 01-14-2006, 01:09 AM

so unoriginal. bland.

BMW E90 · 01-14-2006, 01:12 AM

it's cool for Toyota cars to look like Lexuses. IT's GAY for LExuses to look like TOyota. I dont know I know they always look alike but come on, it's ridiculous to make identical cars...

DTM · 01-14-2006, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arn

lol... I just saw ur thread over at clublexus. It's interesting how different forum gets different reaction.

Where's my link?

Going over to that forum and looking for that thread would defy the rules of laziness.

Fool.

arn · 01-14-2006, 01:27 AM

here you go... http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...78#post1671978

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTM

Where's my link?

Going over to that forum and looking for that thread would defy the rules of laziness.

Fool.

JamieA · 01-14-2006, 01:37 AM

Well I went and found the thread and laughed myself silly. Did anyone follow that link to the design rationale?? What a whole load of shit basically - they aren't sitting there designing with rice paper and bloody kuniform pens like you claim buddy (though it would explain why they don't have time to make the Camry look different...)

Dress it up and call it anything you like - L-Finesse (Hell-Finesse to me) does not float my boat. I know others like it, but the designs do not sit well to my eye. I got a second oppinion from a designer I respect last night after discussing the LS' hoffmeister kick in another thread, and she agreed that it is a plain mess. Like I have thought, she also said that the straight edges and lines don't mate harmoniously with the organic curves that remain, they seem at wrong angles, or to overshoot their mark...

I think it is commendable that Toyota are trying to develop a design language rather than the haphazzard stuff they trotted out before, but what I will say is: Good prototype, now go make it work harmoniously.

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HRC MAUI BUILT Drives: 2006 330i MT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NORCAL Posts: 7,780 iTrader: (10) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Man, it really must make lexus drivers feel :mad: when they see somebody drive past in a toyota, "yea, see the extra 20 grand was for..." You would think toyota would go the extra mile to make the lexus buyers feel warm and fuzzy, maybe the lexus drivers don't care, I would. I'm vain. Nevermind they share the same frame and most parts, aleast look different. Danny __________________ Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Illuminated Knob/Alcantara Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" VMR V718's w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Carbon Fiber Spoiler/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Alcantara Boot/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers/BMS Power Box

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HRC MAUI BUILT Drives: 2006 330i MT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NORCAL Posts: 7,780 iTrader: (10) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Doesn't mean they can't change their ways and do something good IMHO for lexus drivers, but I suppose Toyota knows best... Danny __________________ Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Illuminated Knob/Alcantara Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" VMR V718's w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Carbon Fiber Spoiler/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Alcantara Boot/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers/BMS Power Box

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ward Major General Drives: F Join Date: May 2005 Location: T Posts: 6,162 iTrader: (0)	familycar.com that's friggin funny to me might as well be dontgiveashitaboutdriving.com those are horrid

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01-14-2006, 01:37 AM	#22
JamieA Colonel Drives: E90 325i SG Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,145 iTrader: (0)	Well I went and found the thread and laughed myself silly. Did anyone follow that link to the design rationale?? What a whole load of shit basically - they aren't sitting there designing with rice paper and bloody kuniform pens like you claim buddy (though it would explain why they don't have time to make the Camry look different...) Dress it up and call it anything you like - L-Finesse (Hell-Finesse to me) does not float my boat. I know others like it, but the designs do not sit well to my eye. I got a second oppinion from a designer I respect last night after discussing the LS' hoffmeister kick in another thread, and she agreed that it is a plain mess. Like I have thought, she also said that the straight edges and lines don't mate harmoniously with the organic curves that remain, they seem at wrong angles, or to overshoot their mark... I think it is commendable that Toyota are trying to develop a design language rather than the haphazzard stuff they trotted out before, but what I will say is: Good prototype, now go make it work harmoniously. __________________ '05 E90 325i 6sp Man SG 118,032km on the odo (retired) '06 E90 325i Step SG 121,021km on the odo (retired) '08 E90 325i LCI Step \| Space Grey \| Black/Burr Walnut \| Adaptive Xenons with HBA \| CA \| Navi Pro \| 17in mixed tyres \| 105,437 on the odo

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