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      02-18-2008, 05:51 PM   #1
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Car and Driver tests the Nissan GT-R....

I won't go into too much detail, but spoke to a contact of mine who works for Car and Driver and they just recently got done testing the Nissan GT-R and driving it up and around Reno, Nevada.

Bottom line, some like it, but many others felt the car was only great when driving it hard (track and/or canyon carving). Felt the car to be "boring" if it's not being pushed or as a daily driver.
One or more even felt the exhaust note was annoying and preferred the exhaust note of even the 350Z over the GT-R's.

You should see the full article in the coming month or two.

Oh, and they got the 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, so with it's launch control, it is a monster off the line.
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Hmmm....thanks for the sneak peek!
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      02-18-2008, 06:03 PM   #3
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omg....... 3.3? Stock.....holly sh*t.

I cant wait for all the upgrades to come its way.....the software, exhausts, and maybe even turbo upgrades.
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With simple software this thing is gonna merc everything.
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I wanna merc some hoes with a GT-R. lol...merc'd.

3.3s is amazing. It seems like the sub 4 second range is the new sub 5 range. Amazing how fast the industry has advanced in just a few years.
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With simple software this thing is gonna merc everything.
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the car is going to be a beast!
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I won't go into too much detail, but spoke to a contact of mine who works for Car and Driver and they just recently got done testing the Nissan GT-R and driving it up and around Reno, Nevada.

Bottom line, some like it, but many others felt the car was only great when driving it hard (track and/or canyon carving). Felt the car to be "boring" if it's not being pushed or as a daily driver.
One or more even felt the exhaust note was annoying and preferred the exhaust note of even the 350Z over the GT-R's.

You should see the full article in the coming month or two.

Oh, and they got the 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, so with it's launch control, it is a monster off the line.
normal. any non-6mt car with a clutch pedal is boring as a daily driver.
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      02-18-2008, 07:55 PM   #9
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normal. any non-6mt car with a clutch pedal is boring as a daily driver.
mantis, you are quite the PW here now I know where you've been during your hiatus on 6mt
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lol he's everywhere on the boards...seriously
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lol he's everywhere on the boards...seriously
with all those posts, I guess he has to be
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mantis, you are quite the PW here now I know where you've been during your hiatus on 6mt
lol you on there?

dont tell them dude.. they kick my ass man... i told them i was "busy"
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      02-18-2008, 08:40 PM   #14
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lol you on there?

dont tell them dude.. they kick my ass man... i told them i was "busy"
I wont say a thing

I plan on getting a 335i in Sept when my lease runs out on my G
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omg....... 3.3? Stock.....holly sh*t.

I cant wait for all the upgrades to come its way.....the software, exhausts, and maybe even turbo upgrades.
There is definitely going to be turbo upgrades.
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normal. any non-6mt car with a clutch pedal is boring as a daily driver.

Really, when I was driving this Ferrari F430 the other day, it was a total blast, and I didn't use a clutch.
I've driven dozens of cars without a clutch and had a blast.

Anyone who thinks the joy of driving is only about pushing in and out the third clutch pedal, doesn't know the joy of driving.
I would suspect same person probably thinks they are a master in bed too, but their gf/wife would probably say differently.

There's more to driving and driving enjoyment than just using a clutch.
It would be like saying a night with Jessica Biel would be boring if you could do everything with her but can't touch her left breast.

Trust me, I could have a BLAST with her without touching the left breast and it wouldn't be boring. Just like I can have a blast driving a fun car, without needing the left pedal.

Now back onto topic.
I'll have to drive the GT-R to see if I agree with my contact at Car and Driver. But preliminary thoughts are I would agree with him, since the outside looks don't stir my soul, and when I was sitting in and checking out the car at it's NA debut, it felt about as exciting as spending some time in a remodeled Altima.
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I heard that that Nissan tried very hard to make the car "impossible" to boost psi with a after-market chip. I think I read about it in a Car and Driver issue in October or November. So once a chip does come out for the car it should be damn expensive and the will HAUL ASS!
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lets see what top gear has to say about this...
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Really, when I was driving this Ferrari F430 the other day, it was a total blast, and I didn't use a clutch.
I've driven dozens of cars without a clutch and had a blast.

Anyone who thinks the joy of driving is only about pushing in and out the third clutch pedal, doesn't know the joy of driving.
I would suspect same person probably thinks they are a master in bed too, but their gf/wife would probably say differently.

There's more to driving and driving enjoyment than just using a clutch.
It would be like saying a night with Jessica Biel would be boring if you could do everything with her but can't touch her left breast.

Trust me, I could have a BLAST with her without touching the left breast and it wouldn't be boring. Just like I can have a blast driving a fun car, without needing the left pedal.

Now back onto topic.
I'll have to drive the GT-R to see if I agree with my contact at Car and Driver. But preliminary thoughts are I would agree with him, since the outside looks don't stir my soul, and when I was sitting in and checking out the car at it's NA debut, it felt about as exciting as spending some time in a remodeled Altima.
Haha, funny!
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lets see what top gear has to say about this...

Why?
Are their opinions the only ones that matter?

Does Top Gear test the car in "everyday" driving?
I only see them blasting the cars around a track and on an open airfield.
In which case, as C&D (and most likely everyone else) said it's a blast.
It's the "daily driving" aspect of the car that left some at C&D flat.

I know what C&D meant though.
I've driven a VW GTI that was a blast to drive in daily driving, same with a Miata and other cars.
But I've also driven cars that are great on a track, but just don't do anything for me on a daily driving basis too. And I'm know it's that point that some at Car and Driver were feeling.
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Really, when I was driving this Ferrari F430 the other day, it was a total blast, and I didn't use a clutch.
I've driven dozens of cars without a clutch and had a blast.

Anyone who thinks the joy of driving is only about pushing in and out the third clutch pedal, doesn't know the joy of driving.
I would suspect same person probably thinks they are a master in bed too, but their gf/wife would probably say differently.

There's more to driving and driving enjoyment than just using a clutch.
It would be like saying a night with Jessica Biel would be boring if you could do everything with her but can't touch her left breast.

Trust me, I could have a BLAST with her without touching the left breast and it wouldn't be boring. Just like I can have a blast driving a fun car, without needing the left pedal.

Now back onto topic.
I'll have to drive the GT-R to see if I agree with my contact at Car and Driver. But preliminary thoughts are I would agree with him, since the outside looks don't stir my soul, and when I was sitting in and checking out the car at it's NA debut, it felt about as exciting as spending some time in a remodeled Altima.
oh i'm horrible in bed, ask my wife too. and i think ur full of crap lol
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Looks like an awesome performer "when pushed hard."

However, it doesn't exude the type of artful styling one would expect from an exotic. It looks like a computer generated baby transformer.
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