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JPH · 02-10-2008, 11:28 PM

I spent an appropriate amount of time searching the posts but was unable to find the specs. on the standard audio. Does anyone have this?

I am trying to avoid the second hump (required for enhanced audio) and am wondering if the stock audio will be acceptable.

AZ-BMW · 02-10-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH

I am trying to avoid the second hump (required for enhanced audio) and am wondering if the stock audio will be acceptable.

2nd Hump? Is the stock audio the Logic7?

JPH · 02-11-2008, 12:04 AM

The enhanced audio (Logic 7) requires the tech pkg. and the "second hump" on the dashboard. So, I am curious about the specs on the stoc audio...that does not require the tech pkg. and "second hump" on the dash.

GregW / Oregon · 02-11-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH

The enhanced audio (Logic 7) requires the tech pkg. and the "second hump" on the dashboard. So, I am curious about the specs on the stoc audio...that does not require the tech pkg. and "second hump" on the dash.

Not quite correct. There are three audio systems, but the US only gets the choice of two.

676 Base system - AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with Hi-Fi 10-speaker system including Amplifier with vehicle specific equalizing
677 Logic 7 - AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with Hi-Fi 13-peakers with Professional DSP (Digital Sound Processor LOGIC 7) - not available in the US
752 Enhanced Pemium Sound (aka, Individual High-end Audio) AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with 16 speakers, high-end amplifier performance, optimised cooling system, unique speaker grilles and vehicle-speed-sensitive equalization - $1,900 US; requires iDrive/nav.
672 CD Changer for 6 CDs (MP3 compatible) is a dealer-installed accessory

Only 752 requires iDrive. BMWNA, in its wisdom, is denying us a midrange choice that the rest of the world has. So, it's $1,900 (+nav) or nothing, versus say a $1,200 choice.

Hopefully the base system is at least as good as the E46 HK system, which is marginal. Whether the premium system (same as the one in the M5) is worth it depends on personal needs, but it's supposed to be quite good.

jtown · 02-11-2008, 12:32 AM

Are there any small woofers in the base system?

GregW / Oregon · 02-11-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jtown

Are there any small woofers in the base system?

There have to be woofers; I assume you mean subwoofers? Maybe a current owner can respond.

jtown · 02-11-2008, 01:17 AM

Not the regular 6" ones, but speakers just for bass.

DonM3 · 02-11-2008, 02:13 AM

676 is a £390 option in the UK.

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Not quite correct. There are three audio systems, but the US only gets the choice of two.

676 Base system - AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with Hi-Fi 10-speaker system including Amplifier with vehicle specific equalizing
677 Logic 7 - AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with Hi-Fi 13-peakers with Professional DSP (Digital Sound Processor LOGIC 7) - not available in the US
752 Enhanced Pemium Sound (aka, Individual High-end Audio) AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with 16 speakers, high-end amplifier performance, optimised cooling system, unique speaker grilles and vehicle-speed-sensitive equalization - $1,900 US; requires iDrive/nav.
672 CD Changer for 6 CDs (MP3 compatible) is a dealer-installed accessory

Only 752 requires iDrive. BMWNA, in its wisdom, is denying us a midrange choice that the rest of the world has. So, it's $1,900 (+nav) or nothing, versus say a $1,200 choice.

Hopefully the base system is at least as good as the E46 HK system, which is marginal. Whether the premium system (same as the one in the M5) is worth it depends on personal needs, but it's supposed to be quite good.

Jimmyz · 02-11-2008, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DonM3

676 is a £390 option in the UK.

Then what is standard?

Phoenix 21st · 02-11-2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz

Then what is standard?

Base system which includes a single cd.

toni79 · 02-11-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz

Then what is standard?

Radio Business - AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with 6-speakers

aussiem3 · 02-11-2008, 07:01 AM

In Australia Logic 7 is standard and the Individual High End system is a A$1900 option. This system is much better than the HK in the E46 M3. The imaging is 100 per cent better.

RandyB · 02-11-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH

I am trying to avoid the second hump...

Welcome to the club!

lucid · 02-11-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Hopefully the base system is at least as good as the E46 HK system, which is marginal. Whether the premium system (same as the one in the M5) is worth it depends on personal needs, but it's supposed to be quite good.

I tested the 676 in a regular 3 series and the High-end audio in a M5. There is a major difference between the two, but it isn't worth $1900 for me as 666 doesn't sound bad.

What is the E46HK system? Was that an option?

The only comparison I can make across the platforms is between the 676 and the base system in my E46 325. The 676 is much better.

JPH · 02-11-2008, 08:58 AM

Many thanks, especially to Greg W.

Aussiem: The HK is a Harmon Kardon system that was made "stock" in US spec E46's in 2003 I think. If the standard system is at least as good as the HK system (that I have now). I will go that route and beef it up a bit later if I am not fully satisfied. $1900 and iDrive seems a bit much just to get good auido. Thanks all!

JPH · 02-11-2008, 09:01 AM

Back to my original question: Does anyone have specs on the standard system (amp power, sub-woof. etc.)?

Do current owners with stock audio want to respond?

cardebt · 02-11-2008, 10:22 AM

Not to be a poser, but I do preferr the look of the "unique speaker grills". Does anyone know if they can be purchased seperately and if they are uniform in size for easy instalation?

Technic · 02-11-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH

Back to my original question: Does anyone have specs on the standard system (amp power, sub-woof. etc.)?

Do current owners with stock audio want to respond?

The base M3 sound system should be the one in column 2 in this chart:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...71&postcount=2

There are 2 8" shallow subs under the seats:

JPH · 02-11-2008, 01:13 PM

Nice find Technic, thanks.

e36jakeo · 02-12-2008, 01:53 AM

I just went to a dealership today to hear the top-level system in an M5. I found it and listened to a Santana CD. Definitely among the best sound I have heard. I have logic 7 in my 335i (13 speakers, incl 2 subs under front seats) and this system was definitely clearer, with deeper and more powerful base and pretty spectacular imaging.
I have heard the base 10-speaker system and thought it sounded decent, but it definitely lacks low-end punch.
This is a tough one, since it requires Nav (which I really don't car about having). However, the technology package (Nav, comfort access, and adj suspension) is not too horribly expensive at $3250 (basically pay for Nava and suspension and get the CA for $150). Also gets you adjustible steering and M-drive.
Go find an M5 with that stereo and take a listen. If you really enjoy music it is pretty spectacular.

jtown · 02-12-2008, 02:35 AM

Does the base system come with the 8" subs?

Technic · 02-12-2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jtown

Does the base system come with the 8" subs?

Yes; check the chart above.

02-10-2008, 11:28 PM	#1
JPH Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 254 iTrader: (0)	Standard Audio Specs? I spent an appropriate amount of time searching the posts but was unable to find the specs. on the standard audio. Does anyone have this? I am trying to avoid the second hump (required for enhanced audio) and am wondering if the stock audio will be acceptable.

02-11-2008, 10:22 AM	#17
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02-12-2008, 01:53 AM	#20
e36jakeo Captain Drives: 2008 M3 6 Speed MT! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern CA Posts: 623 iTrader: (0)	I just went to a dealership today to hear the top-level system in an M5. I found it and listened to a Santana CD. Definitely among the best sound I have heard. I have logic 7 in my 335i (13 speakers, incl 2 subs under front seats) and this system was definitely clearer, with deeper and more powerful base and pretty spectacular imaging. I have heard the base 10-speaker system and thought it sounded decent, but it definitely lacks low-end punch. This is a tough one, since it requires Nav (which I really don't car about having). However, the technology package (Nav, comfort access, and adj suspension) is not too horribly expensive at $3250 (basically pay for Nava and suspension and get the CA for $150). Also gets you adjustible steering and M-drive. Go find an M5 with that stereo and take a listen. If you really enjoy music it is pretty spectacular. __________________ Driving sideways: It's not faster, but damn it's more fun!

02-11-2008, 12:04 AM	#3
JPH Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 254 iTrader: (0)	The enhanced audio (Logic 7) requires the tech pkg. and the "second hump" on the dashboard. So, I am curious about the specs on the stoc audio...that does not require the tech pkg. and "second hump" on the dash.

02-11-2008, 12:32 AM	#5
jtown Lieutenant Drives: TBD Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norcal Posts: 596 iTrader: (0)	Are there any small woofers in the base system?

02-11-2008, 01:17 AM	#7
jtown Lieutenant Drives: TBD Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norcal Posts: 596 iTrader: (0)	Not the regular 6" ones, but speakers just for bass.

02-11-2008, 07:01 AM	#12
aussiem3 Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Down Under Posts: 186 iTrader: (0)	In Australia Logic 7 is standard and the Individual High End system is a A$1900 option. This system is much better than the HK in the E46 M3. The imaging is 100 per cent better.

02-11-2008, 08:58 AM	#15
JPH Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 254 iTrader: (0)	Many thanks, especially to Greg W. Aussiem: The HK is a Harmon Kardon system that was made "stock" in US spec E46's in 2003 I think. If the standard system is at least as good as the HK system (that I have now). I will go that route and beef it up a bit later if I am not fully satisfied. $1900 and iDrive seems a bit much just to get good auido. Thanks all!

02-11-2008, 09:01 AM	#16
JPH Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 254 iTrader: (0)	Back to my original question: Does anyone have specs on the standard system (amp power, sub-woof. etc.)? Do current owners with stock audio want to respond?

02-11-2008, 01:13 PM	#19
JPH Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 254 iTrader: (0)	Nice find Technic, thanks.

02-12-2008, 02:35 AM	#21
jtown Lieutenant Drives: TBD Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norcal Posts: 596 iTrader: (0)	Does the base system come with the 8" subs?