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Epacy · 01-18-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Yeah, but what's the surprise about?

It's not a US special, M3 washers are nowhere retractable unlike the standard E92 washers...

Best regards, south

Initial reports came out as retractable washers.

southlight · 01-18-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

Initial reports came out as retractable washers.

Oh, didn't know that. Thought it was pretty obvious since test cars had them for some time already (late '06).

Best regards, south

GregW / Oregon · 01-18-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyB

Are the headlight squirter things a part of the cold weather pkg, or are they on every US M3? I'm starting to wonder because I don't recall seeing an M3 without them yet.

I don't see much point to the headlight washers. I'm going to get just the heated seats so I won't have them.

Epacy · 01-18-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I don't see much point to the headlight washers. I'm going to get just the heated seats so I won't have them.

+1

Makes for a cleaner bumper too.

Yonkers · 01-18-2008, 02:57 PM

I wonder if the reflectors are easy to pop out? On the AW cars they're going to look awfully ugly. I don't want a hole on the sides of my bumpers but I'd like to swap out the yellow for white reflectors.

Voltigeur · 01-18-2008, 03:15 PM

Thanks a lot for the great reviews and eclectic photos ("huge gloves"

)

On the dial, IMO the speedo is the biggest liar: 330 km/h (200 mph). Not even close (delimited) and what, 180s not. Tres ambitious.

Good model shots too

mofomat · 01-18-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

ZCW

Are the headlight washers really an option in the U.S.? They are standard on European cars definitely because by law if a car has Xenon headlights then they have to also have headlight washers, and as Xenons are standard on the M3, urgo cognito sum, the headlight washers must be standard too.

Gadgetman · 01-18-2008, 09:08 PM

Thank you for posting all the pictures.

You forgot to open the glove box and steal the BMW flashlight.

OC ///M · 01-18-2008, 09:49 PM

mkoesel:

Having seen it IRL, I'm curious to hear your impression of the silver ext. leather in the coupe? How do you think it fairs vs. the black leather option? Is it too much silver w/ SSII? This was a potential option for me... TIA.

P.S. Thanks for sharing the great variety of pics!

Hans Delbruck · 01-18-2008, 10:10 PM

Great pics, and of my favorite color. Thank you very much !

I'm also interested in your impressions of the silver interior. I wanted it but after seeing the pics, it looks kind of dull... I might just go with traditional Silver/Black. What will you be choosing for your sedan?

Thanks again.....

mkoesel · 01-18-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blip Bavarian

Could you go into some more detail about the reflectors? I dont quite understand; Is the pannel slightly recessed, to fit the reflector into. Or is the panel flush with some holes to bolt the reflectors through.

The reflector has flanges on the back that clip into a hole into the bumper. As far as I could tell, the hole is the same shape as the relector, just a bit smaller. In other words its not just a few little mounting holes - or so it appears. So if you take them off, you'll have big openings in the bumper. But I'm sure there will be colored blanks available aftermarket.

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Once again, Great Post. Thanks.

Anything for my fellow enthusiasts.

mkoesel · 01-18-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OC kid

Having seen it IRL, I'm curious to hear your impression of the silver ext. leather in the coupe? How do you think it fairs vs. the black leather option? Is it too much silver w/ SSII? This was a potential option for me... TIA.

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Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck

I'm also interested in your impressions of the silver interior. I wanted it but after seeing the pics, it looks kind of dull... I might just go with traditional Silver/Black. What will you be choosing for your sedan?

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of light interiors myself, but it looks pretty good. Extended, it seemed a bit much to me. And I'm not sure it'd look right with metalic trim of which I am a big fan. So I probably would not get silver; I would prefer the black.

I am getting an Interlagos Blue car and right now I'm actually leaning toward Speed Cloth which is black leather with dark cloth seating surfaces. If I do decide get leather it would be black almost for sure, with an outside chance at Fox Red. I know the latter will raise eyebrows, given it would be with Interlagos, but I think the darker red might actually look good against the blue. Most will probably disagree with that.

Voltigeur · 01-19-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of light interiors myself, but it looks pretty good. Extended, it seemed a bit much to me. ....
an outside chance at Fox Red. I know the latter will raise eyebrows, given it would be with Interlagos, but I think the darker red might actually look good against the blue. Most will probably disagree with that.

I agree w/ your taste on the extended light leather. On the IB/ red, I've not contemplated it and thought that combination was not available.

Voltigeur · 01-19-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

In other words its not just a few little mounting holes - or so it appears. So if you take them off, you'll have big openings in the bumper. But I'm sure there will be colored blanks available aftermarket.

I bet you're right! It will be the first mod I would consider - those reflectors are an eyesore.

Epacy · 01-19-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mofomat

Are the headlight washers really an option in the U.S.?

Yes they are.

Big Windy · 01-19-2008, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Xcellere

They're the same structured reflectors on the E46 M3 and the 2008 M5, meaning there's a reflector-shaped hole in the bumper that the reflectors snap into.

does anybody know if there is a good automotive reason to make a hole for the reflector? what i'm getting at is, why did bmw choose to do it this way instead of just sticking it on there?

EKaru · 01-19-2008, 06:57 PM

Yonkers · 01-19-2008, 08:21 PM

Damn, Audi interiors look hawt. I wish BMWs could design their interiors the way they do their engines.

K3N R3D · 01-19-2008, 09:48 PM

That ZR1 is so amazing

sashah60 · 01-19-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Xcellere

They're the same structured reflectors on the E46 M3 and the 2008 M5, meaning there's a reflector-shaped hole in the bumper that the reflectors snap into.

Just got back from the NAIAS. That hole is big; full shape of the reflector.

Yonkers · 01-20-2008, 12:14 AM

OMG, that sucks. I'm getting AW so maybe I can mitigate this with a replacement white reflector.

RandyB · 01-20-2008, 12:25 AM

BMW,

For a nice red, see: Audi, Ferrari and Porsche, and just about every other car manufacturer. Love the Ferrari engine pic.

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01-18-2008, 02:57 PM	#93
Yonkers Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW M5 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	I wonder if the reflectors are easy to pop out? On the AW cars they're going to look awfully ugly. I don't want a hole on the sides of my bumpers but I'd like to swap out the yellow for white reflectors.

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Hans Delbruck BMW & MB - friends in my garage Drives: C63, 135i, 1959 BUICK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 1,284 iTrader: (0)	Great pics, and of my favorite color. Thank you very much ! I'm also interested in your impressions of the silver interior. I wanted it but after seeing the pics, it looks kind of dull... I might just go with traditional Silver/Black. What will you be choosing for your sedan? Thanks again.....

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01-19-2008, 08:21 PM	#106
Yonkers Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW M5 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	Damn, Audi interiors look hawt. I wish BMWs could design their interiors the way they do their engines.

01-20-2008, 12:14 AM	#109
Yonkers Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW M5 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	OMG, that sucks. I'm getting AW so maybe I can mitigate this with a replacement white reflector.

01-20-2008, 12:25 AM	#110
RandyB Lieutenant Colonel Drives: '03 330i, '09 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,504 iTrader: (0)	BMW, For a nice red, see: Audi, Ferrari and Porsche, and just about every other car manufacturer. Love the Ferrari engine pic.